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Was Pardoning a Dead Guy Bush's Consolation Prize for Israel?

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Mediahohoho
12/25/08

In reply to Was Pardoning a Dead Guy Bush's Consolation Prize for Israel?
I'm very interested in this idea of pardoning dead people. Does it mean that Preston Bush is going to be pardoned for war profiteering after all these years (not to mention financially supporting the Nazi party and the German government well into 1943). Have his pathetic descendants not suffered enough?
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shortburstwritingtalent
12/24/08

In reply to Was Pardoning a Dead Guy Bush's Consolation Prize for Israel?
Well, whether it was for an ally or not is a moot point.

He did spy, and he did so for a nuclear nation. And he wasn't convicted of treason because he took a plea deal. Let's not misrepresent the facts here.
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JinxyMcDeath
12/24/08

@shortburstwritingtalent: Can you read English? I'm discussing his excessive sentence...but I'm done discussing it now because quite frankly, your capacity to understand is in question.
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RonMwangaguhunga
12/24/08

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Better question: Was Obama going shirtless consolation to the gays for his relative silence on Prop. 8?
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JinxyMcDeath
12/24/08

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Jonathan Pollard's sentence for spying for an ally was more excessive than other spies for Russia, Iran, etc. He has served enough time in prison for his crime and should be released. Enough already.
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shortburstwritingtalent
12/24/08

@JinxyMcDeath: Please continue. I would like to give you enough rope with which to hang yourself.
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JinxyMcDeath
12/24/08

@shortburstwritingtalent: Fuck off. I doubt you know more about this subject.
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shortburstwritingtalent
12/24/08

@JinxyMcDeath: Your position is "he did it for Israel so it's okay," right?
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The One
12/24/08

@JinxyMcDeath: Next will be the predictable incoming antisemitic remarks. Some veiled, some not so much.
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JinxyMcDeath
12/24/08

@shortburstwritingtalent: No...my position is that giving him a life sentence for spying on an ally is disproportionate to other sentences that were much less for spies for enemy countries.

And you know, you may want to re-read my comment because no where did I say what he did was "ok"...in fact, I called what he did a crime...which is what it was...my problem is that his sentence is excessive. Get it?
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shortburstwritingtalent
12/24/08

@JinxyMcDeath: Is it excessive per se or comparably excessive?
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JinxyMcDeath
12/24/08

@shortburstwritingtalent: The median sentence for the offense Pollard committed - one count of passing non-injurious classified information to an ally - is two to four years. Although Pollard pleaded guilty as part of a plea bargain for himself and his wife, he was shown no leniency and was given the maximum sentence. Pollard was never charged, indicted, or convicted of treason. Indeed, the federal prosecutor recommended that he "only a substantial number of years in prison." Jonathan Pollard is the only person in the history of the United States to receive a life sentence for spying for an American ally.

So, both.
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averyreade
12/24/08

@JinxyMcDeath: You're either misinformed or willfully deceptive.

As it turned out, Pollard actually did spy for Russia. Sy Hersh has the facts.

[www.freerepublic.com]

And what he passed along was far from non-injurious.
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JPMarat
12/26/08

@averyreade:
Preach on man. Pollard was a traitor and is lucky he wasn't killed. He was no zionist hero, he comitted treason for money and drugs, there is nothing admirable about him at all.
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