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    11/16/09

    In reply to Dead Animal Helps Pan Book Decrying Animal Death
    Animals. The other white meat. #newyorktimes
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Dead Animal Helps Pan Book Decrying Animal Death
    Oh, this is just awesome. It's like receiving advance notice that a spicy, wonderful present is in the mail. #newyorktimes
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    11/16/09

    In reply to Dead Animal Helps Pan Book Decrying Animal Death
    What, it's not like they killed the pig for that pic, right?

    If so, I blame Foer. #newyorktimes
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    11/16/09

    @resipsaloquacious: You can actually buy these at a good butcher shop.

    True story! #newyorktimes
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    11/16/09

    @badasscat: Yes, and for whatever reason, peeled sheep's heads are a tradition at Christmas in European butcher store windows. I saw some dude on acid totally freaking out in front of a butcher's one Christmas Eve. Ah, memories! #newyorktimes
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    Oh, nuts. Am I too late to call this a PIE OF SALVATION? Because it is. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    Any vegetarian who thinks animal life is more sacred than plant life is sorely mistaken. All life is sacred and none from the lowly ameba, to humans, to trees, vegetables, nuts, goats, dogs, cows, whales, roaches and rats is any more important than the other. This "animals are more sacred" than plants argument is nonsense and is rooted in human hubris that is about as arrogant and single minded as it can get. vegetarians can be annoying and self righteous and at the end of the day they still have to place organic matter into their maws that was once alive, as do we all, in order to say alive. I say let the annoying ones who think they have it all figured out grind up rocks into dust and eat that instead of organic plant and animal life. #jonathansafranfoer
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    Image of Lux Alptraum Lux Alptraum
    11/08/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    I hated Foer's NY Times piece (based on his book), and I, for the record, have been a vegetarian for almost two decades (which, god, makes me feel really fucking old).

    Anyhoo: I don't eat meat because a) I'm opposed to factory farming, b) if all Americans reduced their meat consumption by even a little bit, it would do wonders for the environment--so if I reduce my meat consumption by 100%, that at least offsets some of the more aggressive meat eaters out there, and c) I just don't really like the taste of meat and don't miss it.

    When I do consume dairy and eggs, I do my best to consume products from local, family farms--obviously not something I can guarantee when eating out, but a practice I keep in my home.

    What bothered me so much about the Times piece was that Foer seemed so sanctimonious in his argument: while berating those who choose to eat meat, he simultaneously admitted that 1) he thinks a vegetarian lifestyle is culinarily inferior to one including meat (see point c) and 2) that family farms made many of his points about factory farming null (but, you know, they're just too hard to find--apparently the Park Slope Food Co-Op is impossible for a Park Slope resident to access!)--oh, and he also completely ignored the questions of eating dairy and eggs, wearing leather, animal testing, and the many, many other instances of animal cruelty that exist in our culture.

    So I guess I'm trying to say: vegetarians, we aren't all bad (and we are making choices that help the environment!). But that Safran Foer dude...he's a prick. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @Lux Alptraum: Yes, thank you, exactly. You have the maturity to say what my thirteen year-old instincts set aside in favor of mischief. But hopefully someone took this sentiment from the post. The most egregious notion about all of this is that change starts with BoBo Brooklyn writers like Foer, and his readers. Wrong, and ignorant. It starts with changes in federal policy, and it starts with protecting those for whom reducing our intake of factory farmed products will present the most issues to: lower-income families.
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    Image of Orgasmic-Chemist Orgasmic-Chemist
    11/08/09

    @Foster Kamer: You think that high-profile writers don't help spark the public interest, which can lead to changes in federal policy?

    Maybe you think Foer is a dick, but his novel has gotten people talking and its brought the discussion to the news papers and front pages of blogs.

    Its cute to think that the federal government will just up and change policies related to big corporations, but it isn't realistic.

    I haven't read Foer's book (sounds like you haven't either), but I did read your post and its pretty pathetic. Way to demean an important issue, because you think your hip readers will enjoy bashing on an erudite author. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @Orgasmic-Chemist: Franklin? Is that you?

    Foer's about as high-profile as the guy who wrote Everything is Illuminated can get. As in, the New York Times really! loves! his shit! The rest of reading America still remembers him as the guy who wrote Everything is Illuminated and the 9/11 picture book.

    Also, O hai, have you been reading the news lately?

    Its cute to think that the federal government will just up and change policies related to big corporations, but it isn't realistic.

    Auto industry. Banking industry. Health care industry. What's not realistic is expecting the people reading this book to do anything other than adjust the height of their soapbox. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @Orgasmic-Chemist: Do you thing Foer was purposefully being a dick just to get a dialogue going?

    The Omnivore's Pariah is more like it. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/09/09

    @Mike Byhoff: yes. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/09/09

    @Foster Kamer: Oh ok, so we should just follow your snarky advice to federal reform then.

    Step 1, follow your points from 1-9.

    Step 2, wait for the problem to literally implode upon itself to the point that all the cows die of diseases and 1/4 of the population dies.

    Step 3, receive federal reform in the style of the auto industry (had to literally go belly up), Banks (Cause a global financial meltdown. Also, since you apparently have read the news lately, what MEANINGFUL reform has taken place??), and Healthcare (a top of debate for almost 100 years for an industry that has no possible economic future for our country and bankrupts more people than the recent financial collapse).

    Step 4, (see your step 11) #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    I ate at Franny's in Brooklyn yesterday. Asked the waiter if "shade-grown" coffee means that the day laborers only have to pick the beans when it's cool and overcast so they don't break a sweat. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    I used to work at Greenpeace and I took great joy in yelling at the vegans as they went on their cigarette breaks, "CIGARETTES ARE TESTED ON ANIMALS!!!"

    Also, I would give the fish eye to the vegans who complained their dogs and cats were doing poorly after being switched to a vegan diet. I was, like, "why'd you get a carnivore for a pet, dumbass, I mean Bro?"

    I was, of course, universally beloved there. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    Am I self-hating vegetarian because I laughed at this and love Anthony Bourdain? #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @krudd: No. You're a person with a sense of humor--a precious asset in any circumstance. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    I used to work with this guy who would cook some chicken and rice for us all in the office—a huge loft—and he would always ask me, "Hey, this tastes better than pussy, right?" And he would even lead up to the cooking by saying, "Just you wait, this stuff tastes better than pussy."

    You know what it? It didn’t taste like pussy. It tasted like the most amazing chicken on earth. Meat is great!
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    Image of missdelite missdelite
    11/08/09

    @SpyMagician: So's pussy - when it's fresh. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    There are really twelve things:

    12. eat some brains!! (aka: sweetbreads)
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    I'd just like to point out that the comments from the meat eaters in this thread are far more sanctimonious than the comments from the vegetarions. Also, I've never encountered these guilt-tripping vegetarians that seem to be persecuting all of you. I say this as an occasional meat-eater who grew up in the South and therefore has eaten many, many times my body weight in delicious bacon. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @Kakapo: I've met two sanctimonious vegetarians. They're assholes. But it could be about anything. I've also met sanctimonious mac users. They're the same type. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/08/09

    @Maulleigh: It may well be because I'm a New Yorker, and vegetarians seem to be few and far between here. If I were on the west coast, maybe I'd encounter the sanctimonious type more often. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    Yo Saffron, I got some meat you'll really cry about eating!! Hickory dickory doc - it's in my pants! Eyyyyyyyy! #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    So eco-liberals have finally found their version of the "pro-life" issue. They've found the perfect innocent object to project all their little romantic fantasies on to and build their self-righteous politics around. (for liberals now, its animals. For conservatives, the fetus). Its a beautiful thing to get behind because it allows you to conveniently bypass all the actual human misery that you ignore on a daily basis (homelessness, poverty, the fucked up criminal justice system) but still hold on to a smug sense of self-righteousness. And its great because animals and fetuses won't sass back you, or undermine your politics by being all messy and inconsistent the way human beings do. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    @Astroblack: So you're saying i should eat a foetus, or "california cheeseburger"? #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    Yeah! Fucking eco-liberals! #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    In reply to Eleven Things You Could Do Instead of Reading Jonathan Safran Foer's Book about Not Eating Meat
    Good work Foster on calling out the obnoxious bacon groups. Yeah, bacon might taste good. But if you need to be part of a bacon fan club for people to know you're "quirky," commit suicide now. Making halloween costumes out of bacon is lame, and no one will want to be around you. Bacon flavored chapstick will make your date want to hurl. Posting recipes online of bacon-infused dishes is lame. If you want bacon, just eat bacon. Its a meat, not an identity. #jonathansafranfoer
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    11/07/09

    @bens: @SpyMagician:

    [putthatshitonthelist.blogspot.com] #jonathansafranfoer
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