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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    01:00 PM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    The judge added, in an aside, “And don’t even get me started on Ivy League universities and tax-free real estate.”
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    12:49 PM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    This is fantastic.
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    Image of Seeräuber Jenny Seeräuber Jenny
    03:19 PM

    @crookedE:

    I cheered when I heard the news.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    12:38 PM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    You're attacking Columbia?

    What fun!
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    12:26 PM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    FUCKING YES. Long time coming. As one of your alums, I say "Suck it, Columbia." A liberal arts university with an eight billion dollar endowment should not be shitting on poor people so that it can take their houses.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    02:21 PM

    @Perhaps Not: Did your alma mater ever teach you how to look shit up before you opine on it? They've bought out everyone in the development area - recently at well-above-market rates - except for one family that owns two gas stations there and says they won't sell them "for any price", and one asshole who owns a storage facility, is a bit of a slumlord himself and seems to be doing this as much for the publicity as anything else. No poor people's houses would be shat on by this taking, as hard as that may be to fit into your social model.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    02:22 PM

    @Astigmatism: Ugh, linky no worky.

    [curbed.com]
    [www.nytimes.com]
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    Edited by Astigmatism at 12/04/09 2:25 PM Astigmatism was starred Astigmatism was unstarred
    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    08:17 PM

    @Astigmatism: how many sold with the threat of eminent domain in the background? They have an advantage anyway - they can afford to pay more than anyone else because they get better zoning rules as a public use, even the good to the general public is questionable while the good to the administrators and researchers who will fill the buildings is immediate and pecuniary.
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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    12:03 PM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    So, you're saying Columbia is Casey Johnson?
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    Image of OliversArmy OliversArmy
    01:19 PM

    @DennyCrane: Making Lee Bollinger the used dildo?
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    Image of TableNein TableNein
    11:42 AM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    All this story is missing is Justin Long and Jonah Hill as the unlikely heroes.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    11:09 AM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    Lovely; now wait for this to be overturned on appeal. This goes squarely against both Kelo and the Court of Appeals' ruling last week in the Atlantic Yards case. Some judges really like making statements.
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    Image of resipsaloquacious resipsaloquacious
    11:01 AM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    I'd like to drop some personal blight on that statute's book.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10:59 AM

    In reply to Court: Columbia Lies, Is Dumb
    I blame James Franco.
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    Image of TheSometimesWhy TheSometimesWhy
    02:39 AM

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    What's amazing to me is how so many comments here tout the same old line about this practice being the "industry standard" as justifying it as an ethical policy. This kind of behavior is antithetical to the very phrase "industry standard" because the phrase implies that there is one. (Standard, that is.) When pinching freelance employees to get a business enterprise to honor their legally binding debts becomes the standard, it's time to find a new phrase that captures the odious conduct. Maybe from now on when businesses employ this technique, we can say they have met the black-hole model of business ethics and standards which is so strong that not only can light not escape its influence, neither can money.
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    Image of rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny
    12/03/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    It's still better than "within five days of publication" like my last would-be boss tried to sneak past me.
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    Image of D2theMatthews D2theMatthews
    12/03/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    Where's your Freelancer's Union now?
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12/03/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    This is a standard business practice.
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    Image of tongue-tied tongue-tied
    12/03/09

    @Swifter: Where?
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12/03/09

    @tongue-tied: Uh...everywhere. Most large corporations offer 10 day payment for a 2% discount, otherwise Net 30- 60 days to vendors and contractors.
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    Image of stevehowe435 stevehowe435
    12/03/09

    @Swifter: Yes, but is this 25 days 0.5% on top of the random four months or so they're usually late with a 'payable upon receipt' 30-day net invoice? And does 'paid' mean when they print the check? Or when they postmark it three weeks later? Or when they walk it from the postage meter to the 'mail out' pile three weeks after that?

    The terms, as printed, aren't so bad. But I've been freelancing 20 years, and.....
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12/03/09

    @stevehowe435: Your only real options are to withhold future services or sue if you're not on the actual payroll. Small businesses have been dealing with this since forever.
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    12/03/09

    @Swifter: Not in publishing, it's not.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12/03/09

    @Mediahohoho: Ok, then don't write, and don't get paid. No big deal to me, and I suspect it's no big deal to Time either.
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    Edited by Swifter at 12/03/09 11:47 PM Swifter was starred Swifter was unstarred
    Image of The Count of Monte Fisto The Count of Monte Fisto
    12/03/09

    @Swifter: First they came for the writers, and I said nothing ...
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    07:57 AM

    @Swifter: Prick.
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    09:39 AM

    @Swifter: Most large corporations also take up to five months to pay anyone, even their largest suppliers.

    Also, you left out that anyone with any leverage gets 1-2% interest on late payments, which is the cost of holding back money.
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    Image of tongue-tied tongue-tied
    11:38 AM

    @Swifter: I bill "Net 30" but no one has ever offered to pay faster if I offer a discount. However, more and more companies simply ignore my terms.
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    11:41 AM

    @Motoko Kusanagi: How do you collect though? Anyone can charge interest for late payment, but you can't do much if they ignore it and simply pay the original sum. Unless it's a very very large bill (in which case, you'd get at least a down payment), that 1% isn't going to amount to much.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12:03 PM

    @Mediahohoho: You betcha! Next to "Fire at will", "Fix Bayonets" is my favorite command.
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    Edited by Swifter at 12/04/09 12:04 PM Swifter was starred Swifter was unstarred
    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    01:29 PM

    @tongue-tied: You don't unless you are "anyone with any leverage". Also that's 1-2% monthly, not annually. The bottom line is that from the moment you finish the work, they are essentially borrowing the money they owe you. You are entitled to to interest, so you should ask for a reasonable "cost of money" interest rate in your contract. If you don't have the leverage to get the contract term, or enforce it, c'est la vie. That's why they're big and you're not. As Bill Gates said on the Simpsons: "I didn't get to be a billionaire writing checks."
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    12/03/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    Early payment discounts are pretty common, but usually are involved when the purchaser is paying a lot of money. This sort of flips it on it's head and takes advantage of already taken-advantage-of workers. I swear, it's time to organize, you NYers! Then hire me as your lawyer. Please?
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    12/03/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: and those are pretty high percentages, to my mind, and it's unusual for them to be so graduated. Usually its just something like, 2% if you pay within 20 days, instead of 30 or 45 or even 60, which is not uncommon. Again, it's just taking advantage of the desperate.
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    Image of BxgrlJeri BxgrlJeri
    12/03/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Will Pay You Promptly, If You Pay Them for the Service
    I will gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today.
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    12/03/09

    @BxgrlJeri: I say this in all honestly: That will never get old.
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