"Propagating ignorance" is putting it lightly. I prefer to call it farming stupidity . . . for incredible profit that allows BillO to live in the most liberal blue-state metropolis in the world instead of some shit-hole right-wing suburb outside of Dallas -- where his fans live.
@ChillbearLatrigue: I think it's fair to say that when dealing with the evils of revolution (a word tossed around a bunch on both side) both the far left and far right cancel each other out. That said, in terms of individuals undertaking illegal and violent action against soft targets here in the good old U.S.A., I think the right has bloodier hands. Oklahoma City anyone?
@ChillbearLatrigue: Okay then, I see your Che and raise you Hitler. Regardless, O'Reilly is sparked up about George Tiller, a man who was murdered in cold blood by a right-wing nutjob.
@takeouteurotrash: It's late and way off subject so I'll keep it short. I believe that Hitler was the worst monster this world has ever seen. If you want to claim him as a hard righter that's fine. The Soviet Empire claimed something like 90 million lives in their endeavors to create a classless society without personal property. I don't know what the numbers on China are, but I'm sure they can't be good. Democracies seem to hold the high road here.
@ChillbearLatrigue: The soviets did nothing of the sort. Theirs was an out-and-out tyranny which bore little to no resemblance to the state Marx and Engels wanted to establish. In fact, if you'll recall, Stalin purged the genuine Russiane left as he was setting up his dictatorship.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Also, you can't label any left-wing figure who started a genuine government revolution as a simple "murderer". That's disingenuous.
@Anthony_Underscore: True. The Symbionese Liberation Army? PETA folks (not sure if they've actually killed anyone, though)? The folks who blew up the UW building? Back in the 60s and 70s, the lefties killed a fair few.
@Anthony_Underscore: d) Neither of the above. Three members of the Weather Underground died while constructing a bomb (it went off), but when they were going around setting off bombs, they also provided evacuation warnings beforehand. (btw: ELF has never killed anyone either.) Google is your friend.
@valet_of_the_dolls: I only listed two: SLA and PETA, whom I acknowledged I was unsure about. And I mentioned without naming the Armstrong brothers, who were associated with SDS, if I recall correctly. They blew up a building on the U of Wis campus and killed a grad student.
Well, it's not popular to admit, but I don't think O'Reilly is to blame for this. His coverage of Tiller was sort of dickish, as per usual, but calling the guy "Tiller the Baby Killer" doesn't mean he wanted him dead. He's just a TV blowhard, and TV blowhards like to trash people they disagree with.
If one of Olbermann's Worst Persons In the World were killed, would we be pointing the finger at him? Hell, if Bush had been assassinated, would we have accepted the blame that FOX would surely have heaped on the anti-Bush crowd? No, even though Bush caused the deaths of 10,000s of Iraqi civilians, and I have regularly applauded the speakers who have pointed this out.
Debates can get can heated. I don't think the participants should be blamed for those lunatics listening in the crowd who take the argument too far.
I don't understand why this blathering man is anti-abortion. He doesn't strike me as somebody who really gives a shit about abortion, women or the situation of poor children in America. If anything, this fucker should be promoting free abortions for poor women (especially blacks and Hispanics): that would be more consistent with this fucker's world view.
I cannot even bring myself to hit the play button because I have a profound hatred of this man anyway and I will hurl my laptop out the window if I watch this clip. Please let this be the beginning of the end of this hateful buffoon's career.
Calling Tiller a killer is cowardly, for if he called him a murderer, like you know he wants to, O'Reilly would surely go to the poorhouse for libel and defamation.
Do O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Palin, et al know that a lot of aborted fetuses would've grown up to be black people and Latinos? That might cause them to rethink their positions.
@wholenuther: Srsly, just tell all the wingnuts that 99% of abortions are Negresses and Mexicans and we've got ourself eternal legal abortion! Hell, they'll probably fundraise to build a clinic next to every KFC & Popeye's in the nation.
@foodandshoes: Yes, satire. Due to the latest KFC/Popeye chicken debacles, Rethugs like Bill O' Reilly would of course think they are the Minority Meccas of the universe.
@wholenuther: Hahah OMG LOL. Yeah if they hated black people so much maybe they should give them free abortions, not oppose abortion like so many do. Obviously white people hate black people, that's why so many of them use the racism inherrent in abortion statistics to denounce it. Oh look, as evidence I submit and article written by a White pastor from North Carolina doing just that. You people need to get out more.
"... fetuses who will never become American citizens." Now that's something we could march to. 'Cause American fetuses are obviously worth more than those other, unamerican, fetuses. Right, Bill?
@pilf: Actually, the label relates back to the historical fact that abortion was illegal in the Roman era because it was killing a Roman citizen protected by Roman law. They had the technology back then, but it was illegal. And now you know.
To clarify, abortion wasn't illegal in the Roman empire. It was illegal for a woman to have an abortion without her husband's permission. Your husband owned your body and the fetus, so whatever he said was ok. They also had infanticide (by leaving babies out in the woods), again, as long as the pater familias was down with it. They were just a little more honest about the abortion debate coming down to ownership over women's bodies.
For the record, this is the first time the class I took in law school, Roman Law: abortion, homosexuality and the death penalty, has come in handy. Now I'm so glad I never took bankruptcy law.
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Three members of the Weather Underground died while constructing a bomb (it went off), but when they were going around setting off bombs, they also provided evacuation warnings beforehand. (btw: ELF has never killed anyone either.)
Google is your friend.
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If one of Olbermann's Worst Persons In the World were killed, would we be pointing the finger at him? Hell, if Bush had been assassinated, would we have accepted the blame that FOX would surely have heaped on the anti-Bush crowd? No, even though Bush caused the deaths of 10,000s of Iraqi civilians, and I have regularly applauded the speakers who have pointed this out.
Debates can get can heated. I don't think the participants should be blamed for those lunatics listening in the crowd who take the argument too far.
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If Renew America is your idea of a trustworthy source, so do you.
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To clarify, abortion wasn't illegal in the Roman empire. It was illegal for a woman to have an abortion without her husband's permission. Your husband owned your body and the fetus, so whatever he said was ok. They also had infanticide (by leaving babies out in the woods), again, as long as the pater familias was down with it. They were just a little more honest about the abortion debate coming down to ownership over women's bodies.
For the record, this is the first time the class I took in law school, Roman Law: abortion, homosexuality and the death penalty, has come in handy. Now I'm so glad I never took bankruptcy law.
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He actually might have killed a jihadist fetus! What do you think of that, Bill?