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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/29/09

    In reply to Saturday Night Special
    By the way, #SNL has some seriously horrendous hosts lined up for the next few weeks, so I expect lots of liveblogging in #SNS. Next week is Blake Lively, followed by Taylor Lautner(!!), followed by James Franco (who I respect for the whole soap thing, but seriously?), followed by Jay Baruchel, who I'm not sure has ever had more than four lines in any given movie. WTF?
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: One thing to remember about SNL. It's not about the quality but the PR. SNL is the equivalent to an appearance on The Rachel Ray Show now.
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    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: I think you're undervaluing it immensely, actually. I've never seen as many articles about Taylor Swift as I did after she hosted SNL, not even after she swept award show after award show. Not to mention how popular and even arguably influential it was during campaign season. People talk about how irrelevant it is, and yet they managed to get Obama, McCain and his wife, Clinton, and Palin all on air. That's a hop, skip, and enormous jump away from Rachael Ray.
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: James Franco, heh, his GH stint is surreal. He'll probably be good on SNL. Why Taylor Lautner was even asked to host SNL is embarrassing. Jay Baruchel?
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    Image of JohntheCraptist JohntheCraptist
    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Since you opened up the topic, can we briefly discuss the fact that the SNL rerun tonight with Gerard Butler (which is definitely from the current season since those two new women are in this episode) contained a sketch about '300', which came out close to three years ago? WTeffingF is going on with this show? Seriously. (I'm also fairly agog about Baruchel. Whoever manages him is either a very intimidating mafioso type, or, like, a warlock. [Oh my God, now there's a sketch on about 'Braveheart'. I CAN'T.])
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    11/29/09

    @JohntheCraptist: Yeah, basically Butler will be living off 300 forever because it's the only remotely memorable thing he's done. And I say this having never even seen it, but assuming it must be because otherwise I can neither justify this SNL appearance nor his cover feature in Esquire. I actually thought his episode was OK, especially in a particularly bad season, but I wouldn't like to see him host again.

    As for Baruchel, I'd put twenty bucks on the warlock. Just the fact that his name looks familiar to me is astonishing and clearly the work of the devil and some potion featuring eye of newt. The truth is, he may have comedic chops and therefore not be so bad at SNL, but I find the show a lot less enjoyable when I'm not familiar with the host's work.
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    11/29/09

    @jasonelias: Have you been watching it? I keep forgetting to check it out but I'm dying to see it. Taylor Lautner is the most embarrassing of all, but yeah, Franco will probably be OK, plus I'm pretty sure he's done it before.
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    11/29/09

    @jasonelias: Yeah... I don't want to be "that guy", but I honestly have no idea who Jay Baruchel is, even after looking him up on Wikipedia.
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: See, I think Taylor Swift has been on the PR campaign for a long while now and since the IMMA LET YOU FINISH thing. Also, she was totally set up with Taylor Lautner. Everyone knows that kid is gay like Zac Efron
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    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: You're right. It's as if SNL has abandoned any attempt to be funny and is now simply about the "gets", as if the mere presence of a novel or high-profile guest host or a cameo by a politico makes the show good. Last night I watched an episode from the second season. In Update, Jane Curtin made a vicious comment about the Tonight Show with Carson being dead after 15 years on the air. Well, SNL has become that Tonight Show.
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    11/29/09

    @croush1211: don't feel bad I am pretty anal about knowing who's who in the films i watch, and I usually win games of 6 degrees amongst my friends, but I didn't know who this kid was either. At least he's a comedic actor, maybe he'll have the best show yet.

    [www.imdb.com]
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Yeah I've been catching off and on. Franco's character is insane and bordering on creepy. Most of his scenes are with Maxie and the last I saw they were having sex. Poor Spinelli!
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    11/29/09

    @croush1211: I had to do some surfing on him myself. Still don't know why he was asked to host SNL.
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    11/29/09

    @fatmonalisa: Oh, she's definitely on the PR campaign; my point is that I think SNL is actually a great PR get. Of course, the next few weeks are making me rethink that whole stance...
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: Why you hating on my desire to top James Franco while watching 300?
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    11/29/09

    @KA_editor: I assure you, there's no way you'll find me hating on that anywhere in my comments.
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    11/29/09

    @DahlELama: They could all come to my house. I'd put out the good plates.
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Why Keith Olbermann Didn't Literally Kill Sean Hannity at This Baseball Game
    They NEED each other in order to have a villain, grow a following, build their ratings, and command high salaries. Don't believe the hype. #keitholbermann
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Why Keith Olbermann Didn't Literally Kill Sean Hannity at This Baseball Game
    Whys is it "right-leaning" Fox and plain-old MSNBC or CNN? Yes, Fox tilts to the right. However, MSNBC and CNN tilt to the left too. #keitholbermann
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    11/05/09

    @Gawkerati: I'm sorry, I have to disagree. CNN tilts to the stupid. #keitholbermann
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    MissNormaDesmond promoted this comment Pesti-Esti was starred Pesti-Esti was unstarred
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    11/05/09

    @Gawkerati: CNN tilts to the left? You're kidding. What anywhere else in the world would be considered center-right at most gets considered "left" here. Meanwhile, yes, MSNBC skews mildly left in terms of its overall editorial viewpoint. But neither even approaches the level of totally ideologically-driven propaganda at which Fox News consistently operates.

    However, even that is beside the point, really. Because my problem with Fox isn't that it's conservative. They have every right to be as conservative as they like, if they'd only be honest about it. What they don't have a right to do is to consistently misrepresent opinion as fact, misreport events, and create news, while pretending to be a "fair and balanced" source of information. #keitholbermann
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    11/05/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: I'll agree with everything you said, but lately MSNBC has been more than listing to the left, especially in primetime and though CNN has lost some of their lustre due to budget cuts , I'd still put them closer to the middle of the road. #keitholbermann
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    11/05/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: Totally agree. And keep in mind that both Shuster and Matthews routinely interview the most insane far right assholes as people having legitimate political opinions. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you former Bush/Cheney bag man and total nutcase Frank Gaffney, who famously said this year that Saddam Hussein was behind the Oklahoma City bombing. There is no corollary to that on the left, none. That's just insane.
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    Edited by Mediahohoho at 11/05/09 7:36 PM Mediahohoho was starred Mediahohoho was unstarred
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    11/06/09

    @Mediahohoho: I've never seen Olbermann cry when discussing republicans, the way I see Beck cry when discussing Obama. I feel like crying every time that "person of color" John Boehner opens his mouth.
    People can call MSNBC "left leaning" but they regularly give Pat Buchanan airtime for his crazy old time republican nonsense, and Joe Scarborough (un)Fair his own show. The best that Fox could do was let Alan Colmes meekly defend the left from time to time. #keitholbermann
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    11/06/09

    @Gawkerati: AHAHA!!! The left? #keitholbermann
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    Image of Lance Uppercut Lance Uppercut
    11/06/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: You are either blind, deaf and dumb...or I don't know what. MSNBC is 'mildly skewed' to the left? Have you ever watched the tv channel before? Olbermann is going to be getting the Nobel Prize in 2010 for "Righteous Liberal Indignation". Closely edging out Maddow. But not to worry, Ed Schultz, David Schuster and Chris Matthews are total right wingers. #keitholbermann
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    11/07/09

    @Lance Uppercut: No, you're just someone who's bought into the insanity that is American politics, where right is now center and full-on reactionary wingnuttery is treated as valid commentary. What I said was that this is how these people would be perceived anywhere else in the world, and I stand by that. #keitholbermann
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Why Keith Olbermann Didn't Literally Kill Sean Hannity at This Baseball Game
    It's called Invidiocy, and it works. Sometimes. However, when Henry Kissinger had his 700-page alibi coming out at the same time as Eddie Fisher's autobiog, he sought to dismiss as a lightweight the former husband of Liz Taylor, and it didn't catch. Nobody read Henry's masterwork. Boo-hoo. #keitholbermann
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Five bucks says more than half of you have not a clue about living in this utopian mecca you've made universal health care out to be. And yet, somehow, you wear this hilarious conviction that it is the answer.

    Having practiced at an NHS hospital in Manchester, UK, I'll tell you no system is perfect. And, newsflash, whether you're talking about Denmark, Sweden, UK, or Canada there are brazen inequities.

    No one is actually entitled to anything in life. No one TODAY is innately entitled to care from a doctor anymore than people were thousands of years ago (ohhh, all those uninsured cavemen and women! how did they do it?!) . We've decided we'll fight for people's rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Fair enough. But I'm not going to fight for your right to demand that a doctor treat you. As cold as it is to say, the frank reality is it's not a human right.

    The truth of the matter is we have a system that, for all its flaws, works for most. There are free-market solutions to address cost and aid the uninsured and under-insured. If you don't want to hear it, you don't want to hear it.
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    10/08/09

    @crooked_teeth: What exactly are those 'free-market solutions' to aid the un and under-insured? I DO want to hear it (I mean, you had the space). The emergency room? That's the only one I can think of and that's hardly any kind of real 'solution', medically or economically. And you're fine 'fighting for people's right to pursue happiness' but not health care? Well guess what: people tend to be pretty unhappy when they have a toothache for two years because they can't afford to go to a dentist or go bankrupt because they were in an accident or have to sell their house to pay for their child to have a heart operation. And if basic health care isn't a human right in a civilized society I'm honestly not sure what is. (How do you feel about the fire department?) Not to mention: what exactly is this "right to life" you're fine fighting for (begrudgingly, apparently) if it has nothing at all to do with health?
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    10/08/09

    @crooked_teeth: Ah, yes. The Fox News method: start with a premise that's a complete lie, and you get to say anything! Fun!

    But anyone with firing synapses is bound to realize that nobody thinks universal health care will be a "utopian mecca."

    They *will* argue, however, that it absolutely *is* a human right. And you might mount a reasonable argument against that idea -- but nothing you said actually addresses it at all. You basically just used several dozen words to say "me no like universal health care. And also, Liberty good"

    The reason that what you say sounds cold (basically, "I got mine, and everyone else can go to hell") is because it *is* cold. Heartless, really, but also clueless. Come back in 15 or 20 years and tell us how well the system is still going for "most."
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    Image of Kyle Brady Kyle Brady
    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Or maybe you can shut the hell up, John Cook.

    Your opinion on Olbermann's actions last night is in the minority, where the average IQ is 5.

    --kyle
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    Airvault promoted this comment Kyle Brady was starred Kyle Brady was unstarred
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Taking away from the labor of one man to give to another is pure tyranny.
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    Cicada promoted this comment Rob Yeahok was starred Rob Yeahok was unstarred
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    10/08/09

    @Rob Yeahok: Name one society in which this doesn't happen in one form or another. Too bad for you you have to live on the planet with other humans, eh?
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Jeez, I haven't had cable for over a year now -- when did Olbermann gain fifty pounds?
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    10/08/09

    @ifstone: It's just his head, and it was sometime around November 4 of last year.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    HAHA, he did news commentary on a news commentary show.

    THE NERVE.
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    10/08/09

    @Muggs Bigglesworth: i definitely came to this gossip site to hear how a pundit should act like a real newsman in order to fix healthcare for the nation.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Have you given any thought to actually fact-checking what Olbermann said, or is your point that he shouldn't have chosen the medium he did for that message? It's true that there aren't very many hour-long single-subject op-eds on TV these days. But does that doesn't mean there shouldn't be?
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    You guys should have listened closer to what Olbermann was saying instead of how he was saying it. He made several good points about healthcare; he's seen it firsthand from dealing with his father's illness over the last month and a half.
    I thought he did a great job last night.
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    10/08/09

    @zagger: I agree. Keith can be a gas bag, but I don't hear anyone else out there taking up this fight. As more and more people in our industry lose their jobs, this is going to affect more people we know rather than that big uninsured "other."

    I think he had a brilliant idea about raising money to fund those massive third-world-style free clinics in Blue Dog Democrat states.
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    Soup promoted this comment Edited by HaysiFantayzee at 10/08/09 4:14 PM HaysiFantayzee was starred HaysiFantayzee was unstarred
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    10/08/09

    @zagger: I agree. I watched Keith's show and was touched.

    He said a lot of what many wish they had the forum to say it on.
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    10/08/09

    @HaysiFantayzee: yep, keith is a gasbag, but he's a pundit, that is the point. pundit acting like pundit, is not really funny. i'm kind of confused how they keep going for olbermann, and MISSING so badly. there is plenty there, "he talked about health care for an hour, hrumph" is just lame.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    So? About 45,000 people die every year because they lack health insurance. I'm fairly sure those are the deaths to which he was referring. Or maybe it was the infant deaths that put us 36th in the world for infant mortality. Can't say, I didn't see the whole thing.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    Keith,you think health care is bad.Disguise youself and try an inner city ER,hell,try any ER,claim some backpain or stomach ache,if you say chest pain you get a little better service,be sure to mention you don't have insurance,if you think you and your father are being treated badly see how most of the real U.S.citizens are treated.J.Mix,, Connecticut
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    10/08/09

    @leeward0016: I think, if anything, that furthers his point. Additionally, he addressed that fact.
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    10/08/09

    @leeward0016: I'm fairly sure that was one of the points he was making.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    In a media landscape where Glenn Beck & Fox News have done so much damage to the health care debate by not only indulging in the lies and deception propagated by the insurance industry, but of helping to organize mass tea bagger rallies, you’re really gonna fault the guy for trying to use one of his broadcasts to actually do some good and inject some humanity and compassion into the discussion? I thought I was cynical, but you’ve obviously got sharks’ teeth, Play Doh and melba toast where your heart should be (I hope you have health insurance to look into that BTW). I for one am gonna donate to The National Association of Free Clinics that he mentioned in an attempt to put some pressure on key legislatures who’re holding up the bill.
    [www.freeclinics.us]
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    @cockfightbarmitzvah: God forbid we be equal-opportunity snarks.
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    Voyou_Charmant promoted this comment no I said no I won't no was starred no I said no I won't no was unstarred
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    10/08/09

    @no I said no I won't no: It's more than that, though. It's one thing, even if not malicious, to inject the idea of evenhandedness as though reason is always in the middle. It's not.

    Yes, he is a bit over the top and likely fairly full of himself at times, he is at least accurate and truthful.

    Throwing mud at Glenn Beck for doing what he does (attempting to trick, destroy and terrorize America?) is different than someone going on TV trying to set the record with any luck try to bring a level of rational discussion to the debate.
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    10/08/09

    In reply to Keith Olbermann Passes Another Milestone on the Way to Becoming His Own Caricature
    While Olbermann clearly likes using big words while talking about big issues, I think his special comment was actually a refreshing take on an issue that is so convoluted and obscured most people don't want to be bothered thinking about it. The Affleck impersonation was awesome and spot on, but at the very least Keith is sincere in his outrage and noticeable sadness at such a disparate system that allows people to live in pain and even die b/c they can't afford to get better.
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    10/08/09

    @huntalison: how do you know he is actually sincere? can you just tell? because to me, until you start DOING something about an issue, you're just not that into it. and talking about it when you're paid A LOT to talk about it does not count.
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