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SaraRueful
06/04/09

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Has anyone else noticed that the librul coastal elites sometimes make sweeping generalizations about people in real Amurrica, and the real Amurricans get all pissed off about being called ignorant racists, or about clinging to guns and bibles, and then they continue to do exactly what they were accused of???
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alorsenfants
06/04/09

@SaraRueful:

Duly noted.

Also want to say: fine fine (well, not really), but just remember Kentucky is a Union state at the end of the day.

So pat yourselves on the back all you want, up there in Park Slope (or whatever), yet don't forget you all (y'all) are in bed with these people.

Lucky you!

Regards from VA,
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SaraRueful
06/04/09

@alorsenfants: I'm originally from W.Va., which became a state solely to be in the Union. Yet it was red the last three elections and the racist, bible-thumping, hateful, ignorant shit I've heard from people there in the last couple years -- people in their 20s and 30s, supposedly the enlightened, openminded generation -- does not exactly have me raising my head high to be from there.

Sure, not everyone from a "fly-over" state is an idiot homophobic misogynistic gun-toting racist. But they are the ones who make the news, and they are the ones who get up in my face at reunions yelling at me for moving to France to get the fuck away from Bush, and they are the ones who go fucking crazy when anyone calls them out for what they are. ("How dare you say I cling to my Bible and my gun? I'm going to shoot you, cause God said it's OK!")
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succulent
06/04/09

@SaraRueful:

Because we liberal elitists have college educations.

We actually know what we are talking about. (& our parents aren't cousins, so our brains a a bit more functional)
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SaraRueful
06/04/09

@succulent: Many of the idiots whom I've argued with in the last couple years went to college. Graduated, even.

And extra points off for your asshole "inbred" joke. Har har har. Very original.
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procrastinator, esq.
06/04/09

In reply to Kentucky Pastor to Hold a 'Bring Your Handgun to Church' Service
Not be all grammar nitpicky, but in lieu of or in light of?
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xbxDaniel
06/04/09

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You know, Appalachia isn't full of gun-toting idiots; it's actually home to coherent and thoughtful people that are very concerned about their home and are unfortunate victims (and I'm not talking emotionally, strip mining's a bitch and all). Y'know, kind of like how there are stupid people everywhere and it's a small group of people that make everyone else look really bad. It's like saying Cincy OH is a cesspit of crime and violence when it's really only a couple of streets and everyone is smart enough to stay away from there for the most part.

Hahaha, let me degrade some more large geographic groups with stereotypes while I rofl about on my lollerblades.
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Mediahohoho
06/04/09

@xbxDaniel: Stop Mountaintop Removal Mining!
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xbxDaniel
06/04/09

@Mediahohoho: Are you being ironic?
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Mediahohoho
06/04/09

@xbxDaniel: Not at all. I had the honor of being asked to play a benefit for this cause last Sunday by a great group of Kentuckians from Louisville and Lexington this past Sunday. I think it's a great cause and, in addition to my lovely wife and her family, I really like people from Kentucky.
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Claire Buoyant
06/03/09

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Not every branch of Christianity is pacifistic

OK, so this business of Jesus being the Prince of Peace...have I been lied to?
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

@Claire Buoyant: You'll find that in the New American Standard the Sermon on the Mount has been amended to read "Blessed are the peace makers ... and by that I mean Colt .45s and ICBMs."
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DorothyBarker
06/04/09

@Claire Buoyant: It was a typo. They meant Prince of "piece".
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Awesome X
06/04/09

@Claire Buoyant: That means Jesus is like, you know, Prince. Like, he wants to sing to Peace in falsetto, screw it for a long sweaty evening and then ditch it naked in Lake Minnetonka.
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

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The real theological question that needs answered here is whether Jesus would use hollow points. But seriously, with the high demand for ammunition ahead of Obama personally confiscating all firearms, doesn't simple Christian charity demand this church distribute free ammo to those in need? That'll grow the congregation!
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belltolls
06/04/09

@Mediahohoho: The dirty little secret is that they ran out of snakes to pass around.
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Almostbanned
06/03/09

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Why is this a big deal? They're not hurting anyone. Maybe you need to stop looking at these people in the same way that they look at the gays, and for the same reasons. Blind ridicule doesn't get anyone anywhere.
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Pope John Peeps II
06/03/09

@Almostbanned: except that it seems silly that an organization which preaches "thou shalt not kill" encourages the celebration of a tool which has no earthy purpose but to kill and maim other human beings.

And before we get started, let me say that I've fired guns, and I know that it's a huge amount of fun. But it's only a huge amount of fun PRECISELY BECAUSE you know that this thing could easily kill a human being and it feels powerful.
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/03/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Guns are like lighterless fireworks. The explosion is what makes them fun. Keep shooting. You'll eventually enjoy guns for their purity and goodness.
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Correction: the inherent goodness of guns.

[www.wibw.com]
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Almostbanned
06/04/09

@Pope John Peeps II: No, it seems silly to YOU. And its fun because it's fun. And in addition to personal protection, it's also a sport. An olympic sport at that. You're being as closed minded in your view of gun ownership as a bible-thumper is on gay marriage. It's a lifestyle choice.

99.99% of those gun owners have never, will never, and wouldn't want to ever hurt another human. Just like the same percentage of gay couples will lead perfectly normal lives together and not in any way detract from anyone else's right to live their own lives. Agree or not, everyone needs to start to see things from the opposite point of view on a lot of these issues here.
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Mediahohoho
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: The point is not that guns are bad or even un-Christian, it's that carrying a weapon is incompatible with being in church ... for all kinds of reasons, cultural, historical and, yes, religious. But nothing surprises me about modern evangelicals, who seem to have been born on the late side of this morning.
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Pope John Peeps II
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: It's not the ownership of a gun that I'm talking about. But I wouldn't actually expect you to read the words that I'm saying. That's asking a lot. It's the endorsement BY A CHRISTIAN CHURCH of an instrument whose unique purpose is killing. On its face, that's a hypocritical action.

@ChillbearLatrigue: A gun without bullets is still a single-purpose tool. You can't get around it. It simply has no other purpose. And the explosion is fun because the explosion is DEADLY. It's powerful. Things that are powerful are fun because they're dangerous. Motorcycles, dynamite, giant cool machines, things that blow other things up. DANGER. Why do I have to explain this to you?
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Niko Bellic
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: Being gay is not a life style choice. Your analogy still stands though, since being stupid is not a life style choice either.
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theMoJo
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: You are a fucking idiot if you think/believe/feel that a church's views on gun ownership is the same as a "gay's" views on marriage.

You're being as closed minded in your view of gun ownership as a bible-thumper is on gay marriage. It's a lifestyle choice.

This is retarded. Being gay and wanting to be married is a lifestyle CHOICE? BEING GAY IS A CHOICE NOW, EH????!!! You are SERIOUSLY saying that a church in love with it's gun is the same as a human's right to marry who they wish? I'm not even going into what's wrong with church goers carrying guns yet...that's their life, and we will point and laugh at it if we wish. But they don't "point and laugh" at gay marriage; they fabricate lies and spread the myth that gays getting married will ruin it for everyone. They don't make a few jokes at gay's expense; they have denied rights, harassed, and even murdered those who don't fit their cookie cutter cut out of what people should be like. This isn't a promotion trying to spread "the word" about guns and fun. This is a show of force, a "don't fuck with us/we don't fuck around" to the rest of the world.

Gays loving each doesn't kill anyone; guns kill people.

Also, shooting being an Olympic Sport is ridiculous. I say competitive bathroom "sword fighting" is a more real sport than "point and shoot, point point and shoot".
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Almostbanned
06/04/09

@theMoJo: You're fabricating lies and trying to pass laws against gun ownership, same as they are against gays. So tell me again where the difference is.

Oh and a gun never killed anyone without a person pulling the trigger first. And as far as 'gays loving' doesn't kill anyone, have you seen this?

[gawker.com]

And you can make fun of competitive shooting all you want, but all you're doing is demonstrating why you shouldn't be listened to on this issue.
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Mediahohoho
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: Yeah. Stupid kid.

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peperony and chease
06/04/09

@Almostbanned: One dude ends up with his own semen in his ass and now gays can be conflated with pistols? This is a rapidly disintegrating metaphor.
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thejtrain
06/05/09

@Mediahohoho: "The point is not that guns are bad or even un-Christian, it's that carrying a weapon is incompatible with being in church"

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that the folks still alive at New Life Church in Colorado Springs are glad that Jeanne Assam didn't agree with you.
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Mediahohoho
06/05/09

@thejtrain: You're talking about a paid security guard.
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bourgeoisie
06/05/09

@Mediahohoho: RTA: volunteer member of the congregation with a personally owned firearm.
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Mediahohoho
06/05/09

@bourgeoisie: @thejtrain:

Color me wrong (although I thought she was off duty law enforcement, but I'm probably wrong about that, too). However, for the record, I've lived most of my adult life in New York City, some dicey neighborhoods, a few years in Damascus, Syria, and a few weeks in Lagos, Nigeria.

One place you won't find me is in a public building in Colorado. Too dangerous.
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

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Jesus puked.
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Forgetitjake
06/03/09

@Mediahohoho:

O Louisville, Louisville, which kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to you, how often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you would not.
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

@forgetitjake:

Eight more miles and Louisville

Will come into my view

Eight more miles on this old road

And I'll never more be blue

I knew some day that I'd be back

I knew it from the start

Eight more miles to Louisville

The hometown of my heart

- Grandpa Jones
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/03/09

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Don't credit Louisville with being a real metropolitan city. I spent a week there once. A chain through every refrigerated beer case on Sunday and condoms are locked up like they are made out of plutonium all the time.
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: I like it; mainly because it gave me my bride. Of course, we bring our own birth control and are generously supplied by the in-laws with our Sunday morning booze, hookers and porn prior to strapping up for church.
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The Cajun Boy
06/03/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: I love Louisville! They have good theater there! That scores them points in my book.
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/03/09

@The Cajun Boy: I was there for a lame convention. The Highlands was cool. Stayed at the Seelbach. F. Scott Fitzgerald used to write there and Hunter Thompson was from Louisville. We also ate at the place that wouldn't seat OJ Simpson. It wasn't all bad. Didn't get to see the theater.

Before this thread gets hijacked. Wasn't Barack encouraging the God and Guns thing at one time?
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Pope John Peeps II
06/03/09

@The Cajun Boy: It kind of sounds like their whole lives are a kind of theatre, no?
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Mediahohoho
06/03/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Mixing them together in the same venue generally isn't considered a winning political strategy. Except maybe in Yemen.
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Awesome X
06/04/09

@The Cajun Boy: Also, guns.
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The Cajun Boy
06/04/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Well, if you put it that way, yeah, kinda. Oh, and horsie races too! They love that shit.
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llililill
06/04/09

you guy@ChillbearLatrigue: oh no no no, I googlemaps'd this place, it's _barely_ in louisville only by definition (which includes all of Jefferson County), way out below the South end, in an area where I, a proud Louisvillian of 20 years, would never have any reason to go. Louisville is actually awesome, sorry whoever you stayed with sucks!
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Awesome X
06/04/09

@llililill: Awesome? That's an overstatement. "Adequate" is more like it.
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