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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    My roommate watched this episode of Oprah, and I was more horrified by the second segment of the show in which she interviewed the woman whose face got ripped off by an ape.

    The poor woman kept repeating that she doesn't want to think about her injuries, and Oprah just harp(oed) on and on about how "shocking" her face was. "There is literally nothing that can prepare you for what you're about to see," she intoned, sitting directly in front of the poor mutilated woman.

    Oprah and I...we don't get along. If I ever see her giant, egomaniacal head floating towards me, I can't be held responsible for what I might do. And sorry, this was completely off-topic. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    This just in: Sully and Munley spotted at a dive in D.C., getting blitzed. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: HA, ha, ha ... #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @New Gonzo Drifter: That comment was really inappropriate, Larry. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: You should take your material to TDS and try to get on as a writer ... #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @New Gonzo Drifter:

    ...but.... I've seen that show... they're funny all the time. My stupid little jokes are only funny after you've had a couple of Bong-Water Tinctures #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: I just got the willies thinking about taking a big slug from that cup o' nasty. I prefer my tokes a la the real green stuff ... #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Where there was a cynical, Goebbelesque motivation (which the Army and the WH eagerly seized upon) with Lynch, I'm more inclined to give any discrepancies in this case the benefit of a doubt. Taking one for the team is heroic enough; there's no need to gild the lily with Munley. And firefights are rife with honestly confused witnesses.
    ...Criminal charges should have been filed in the Lynch case, however. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Trai_Dep: And, of course, this will be sorted out in time, once the bullets are traced back to the guns that fired them. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    SURPRISE!! Except, not. This isn't the first time a story has been 'whitewashed'. The real story,' black man with gun puts down brown man with gun', wouldn't have played as well on the media. Munley was a very convenient symbol; plucky, little white protects us all from the dark Islamic threat. Acknowledging the man who REALLY saved the day doesn't take a way a fraction from Munley's heroism. It just sets the record straight. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @topsy: The little white with pluck still took one for America. Let's not forget that! #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @BoKnowsMagic: You need to read my comment again. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @topsy: And? #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Who cares who shot the crazy man? The are both heroes. Just showing up to help with stop a gunman is more than I could do. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Adiphyte: Indeed. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    Image of Uh oh... Cleveland Uh oh... Cleveland
    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Regular people (including me) = people who run away from the man with the gun.
    Heroes = people to run toward the man with the gun.

    Munley is a hero whether she actually shot the guy or not. Todd, too. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @Uh oh... Cleveland: I second that. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Who cares, I thank them both for risking their lives and bringing that asshole down. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Does this mean there will be a do-over of last week's women-in-combat post? #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Whoops. I missed tripletheat's post below, which essentially made the same point. Sorry. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: I hope so. That was a multi-day duel to the death. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    We need to resolve this so Gail knows who she's role-playing tonight with Oprah. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    The woman who shot Major Hasan, she shot Major Hasan/
    She was the bravest of them all. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    The real horror show begins when they start figuring if any of the dead were killed by well-intentioned crossfire rather than Hasan. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @oudemia: All reporting I have seen on this is that, after some initial concern about friendly fire, authorities say no one was shot that way. (Might be because no one except Hasan and the cops were armed, so all the crossfire took place outside.) #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    This could easily be solved by a public vote.
    Oprah should rig up two different 1-888 numbers so the people can decide if they want some black guy to be the hero, or the nice blonde white lady. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    "SHE saved the day, when she rounded the corner and shot the bad guy!""No, HE saved the day, when he rounded the corner and shot the bad guy!"Meanwhile, they're standing around a crowd of soldiers getting ready to deploy back to Iraq and Afghanistan. Hey, you know who's good at rounding corners and shooting bad guys? There's something incongruous about all the accolades for shooting this guy.
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment Edited by hilikusopus at 11/12/09 9:22 AM hilikusopus was starred hilikusopus was unstarred
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    11/12/09

    @hilikusopus: From what I have read everyone -- but Hasan and the police -- was unarmed. So are you suggesting the soldiers should have rushed the shooter and taken their casualties until he had to reload? I also gather that this all happened very quickly, which probably factored into everyone's reactions. #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Oh, no no way. I'm not a lawyer, but it's probably best that civilian law enforcement took the guy out, rather than the soldiers.What I mean is that while the media is trying to make a hero out of one of these cops -- "choosing a hero" for our soldiers and us -- our soldiers are doing triple tours, 24/7, in hostile territory with very bad people shooting at them and blowing them up and harming innocent civilians. Politics aside, by and large, those men and women are heroes every day in a very real sense. I've got nothing against good cops, but it was a moment of cognitive disonance for me, like the media didn't see a hero in the room until the cop showed up and took a bullet.
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    11/12/09

    @hilikusopus: Ah, got ya. It was the "crowd of soldiers" and "you know who's good at rounding corners" bit that threw me off. I should have known better.
    I certainly understand the impulse to find a hero of the moment, and wouldn't take anything away from the two cops who "did their jobs" -- under fire.
    And I think that, in contrast to some times in our history, the media and the public has been pretty good at recognizing the hardships and the heroism of our troops. But you can never say it -- or act in ways that honor them -- enough.
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    11/12/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Well said. I'm not going to read into the episode too much (bad media, no respect for troops, etc.) -- any rage and angst I could feign about it would be dwarfed by the gravity of the reality of the situation -- there was just something poetic about the image. Let's write a song about it.
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    Edited by hilikusopus at 11/12/09 11:46 AM hilikusopus was starred hilikusopus was unstarred
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    "Much media frothing about Munley "--including like 4 Gawker posts! A little self-awareness? #kimberlydenisemunley
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    11/12/09

    In reply to Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
    Sgt. Todd told his story to the AP last weekend [news.yahoo.com] and I was a little surprised it didn't get more play, but it seemed then there would be room for more than one hero in this case. His story seems to dovetail decently with the witness' (although questions certainly remain). For example, Todd says Munley was down by the time he arrived and shot Hasan.
    But who shot whom is something ballistics should be able to figure out, right?
    [gawker.com]
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    Edited by Glib and Bitchy at 11/12/09 8:59 AM Glib and Bitchy was starred Glib and Bitchy was unstarred
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