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Who Really Shot the Fort Hood Shooter?
Who Took Down the Ft. Hood Shooter?
New York, 7:36 AM
Fri Nov 27
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...but.... I've seen that show... they're funny all the time. My stupid little jokes are only funny after you've had a couple of Bong-Water Tinctures #kimberlydenisemunley
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...Criminal charges should have been filed in the Lynch case, however. #kimberlydenisemunley
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She was the bravest of them all. #kimberlydenisemunley
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Oprah should rig up two different 1-888 numbers so the people can decide if they want some black guy to be the hero, or the nice blonde white lady. #kimberlydenisemunley
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But who shot whom is something ballistics should be able to figure out, right?
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For instance, Oprah thought a stock photo of Sgt. Munley carrying a rifle was taken that day, and the Sgt had to correct Oprah and say, no, that picture was taken years ago during a training excercise. #kimberlydenisemunley
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So somebody could have said something. So what? How do you rectify it? How do you move ahead in the future? I'd really love to hear your idea for a new regime. #kimberlydenisemunley
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If someone (particularly an army officer) is mouthing off some kind of insane jihadi rant to anyone who will sit still for five minutes, your common sense should tell you that, hey, maybe this guy doesn't belong in the armed forces.
Please note how this is different from considering 'all muslims' guilty until proven innocent. And if some of their fellow soldiers are overzealous and Muslims feel like they're being over-scrutinized in general, well, tough shit. They should blame the lunatics who are actually committing these atrocities for giving them a bad name, not the people who are just trying to protect themselves. I'd much rather hurt some feelings than actually, you know, get a bunch of people killed. #kimberlydenisemunley
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That windbag Joe Scarborough was on MSNBC this morning with some guy from Time -- pimping a big feature story in Time, of course -- regurgitating that whole "he sneaked up in the ranks because of PC" line of bullshit, with Scarborough nodding in enthusiastic approval, to my complete lack of surprise.
Meanwhile, all these yahoos have completely -- and conveniently -- forgotten about Timothy McVeigh, a good, upstanding White Christian gentleman. #kimberlydenisemunley
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But yeah, in the end he was a scumbag. #kimberlydenisemunley
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You are confusing political correctness with racism. If I give a free pass to someone based on his race/ethnicity/religion, it's not called "political correctness". It's called racism. Politically correct would be to ignore the person's religion and ethnicity.
Allowing Hasan to stay in the military, just because he is Muslim, even though he was showing hostility towards the military and it's actions, is simply - racism.
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Tokenism and PC-ness at their worst.
Timothy McVeigh is apples/oranges--I don't recall anyone considering him a good, upstanding ANYTHING--sources, please? Or are you just clearing out your blowhole? #kimberlydenisemunley
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For fuck's sake. It's racism, get that into your ignorant head. #kimberlydenisemunley
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And ftr, he was Catholic, which, while of course Christian, doesn't neatly fit into the "crazy cracker evangelical" meme people like to throw around. #kimberlydenisemunley
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It really irks me whenever I sense that people try to discredit political correctness by slapping the label of it onto a bad behavior (call it racism or ethnicism or religionism or whatever) which involves preferential treatment of minorities.
Calling these incidents "political correctness ran amok" is the same as calling a situation where when you are forced to play by the rules, but someone else breaks them - "playing by the rules ran amok". It smacks of your trying to discredit playing by the rules all together (because you know that in that case you'd have the upper hand).
There is nothing wrong with political correctness. It cannot run amok (except maybe when considering style in creative writing). It's a good thing. Stop calling bad things "political correctness at its worst" where they have nothing to do with it. #kimberlydenisemunley
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And on the failure of his ability to make into SF -- 70% of those who go out for SF, on average, don't make it. That's fairly normal -- not to make it, that is (at least on the first go 'round).
You also failed to note that he was initially generally discharged -- it was later that he was given the honorable discharge. And I know about nearly everyone being given an honorable discharge, as I was, myself, honorably discharged. I'm savvy on the procedures.
I'm not defending McVeigh, but I think you lack a little info.
Also, did you know that two thirds of homeless men are military veterans ... it is not uncommon for vets to get out and drift -- especially for the enlisted ranks who did not get the G.I. Bill. They often float from one wage-earning job to the next.
It almost sounds like you're calling all enlisted types who get out of the military and don't have white-collar jobs waiting on them losers. You're not, but it sure seems like you are very uppity about yourself and your perception of enlisted vets ... I'd bet you were a former officer and probably bought into all that "we-are-better-than-the-enlisted-types" garbage.
Um, and do you know how many right-wing crazy vets are buying arms now-a-days? Your point about McVeigh attending mass gun shows is now uncommon, ESPECIALLY for vets, regardless of whether their service was as an officer or in the enlisted ranks.
I don't give two sh**s about Christian stuff as most Christians are idiot numb nuts. #kimberlydenisemunley
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Or maybe, as has been suggested elsewhere in this thread, it was a combination of bureaucratic laziness and sheer stupidity, not an unheard of combination at Reed--or in the military in general--from what I understand.
But that doesn't allow conservatives to triumphantly ascribe this to a "liberal" bugaboo that liberals don't actually subscribe to any more than do conservatives (see: platitudes regarding the Iraq War c. 2003 - present).
If, however, we're going to purge the militatry, I'd much we did so based on officers' approval of religiously inspired violence, starting with in-depth interviews of the fans of Scott Reoder, among others. #kimberlydenisemunley
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I grew up military, so I'm familiar. And you're right - there's a lot of division between officers and enlisted that was to me, even as a child, uncomfortable and wrong in many ways.
The whole point, though, was that McVeigh was not considered a "gentleman" or by any accounts a fine or particularly Christian person, which is what was originally asserted. After he distinguished himself in combat, he went on neither to achieve in the military or out of it. Your comment that he was initially given a general, rather than honorable discharge, underscores my point. I don't consider his track post-military to be representative or typical of military; he appeared to follow a much worse path and he ultimately, of course, did. So, back to the original comment, I don't think a lot of the "yahoos" considered McVeigh to be a shining example of anything, before or after he murdered people. #kimberlydenisemunley
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The FBI was trying this spin, today too, to account for their dismissal of at least 20 emails to the radical 9/11 cleric--because if you allow that he might have been an religious extremist, then our multi-billion dollar homeland security system failed us big time. Far better to just say he was a "nut." #kimberlydenisemunley
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I just love how this narrative implies that military brass sat idly by, knowing that this dude was going to kill tons of soldiers, but they were so paralyzed by political correctness that they couldn't muster the balls to do anything. Do you people really effing believe that? If so, wow. I'm blown away by the lengths some people will go to--even using the tragic deaths of service members--to forward a xenophobic agenda.
Of course, the one thing you people will never say is how the rules should be changed, on a very specific level, to combat this type of situation, to make sure that it never happens again. Because then you'd be forced to lay out your cards and reveal your bigotry. #kimberlydenisemunley
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At the end of the day, we don't have jihadis shooting up our military bases every day. When was the last time something like this happened again? Please, let's get some perspective people. #kimberlydenisemunley
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So we're bigoted because? #kimberlydenisemunley
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Also, what are we going to do about the well-documented Christian extremism that pervades in the Armed Forces? I'm sure we won't hear anything about that from the anti-Muslim xenophobes. #kimberlydenisemunley
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