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LA0811
10/23/09

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Who is Uma Thurmond? #saw6
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Z und Vielpunkt's chick
10/23/09

@LA0811: Strom's grandmother? Oh wait, that's Oma Thurmond. #saw6
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DahlELama
10/23/09

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Jeez, where's Sandra Bullock when you need her?

Also, Thurman, not Thurmond. #saw6
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Airvault
10/23/09

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How many more years do we have to wait for a movie about commenters? What about two frazzled commenters, one on a women's site and one on a men's site, who struggle to find love and sweatpants that fit in modern Manhattan? #saw6
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BettyCrocker
10/23/09

@Airvault: I can see the faked orgasm scene being Skyped. #saw6
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YG2012
10/23/09

@Airvault: SAW 7, Jigsaw gets back at snarky commenters on his website by making them compete to be night editor, then lures them to a private party to decide on the "winner". #saw6
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Bulkington
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Come one. Whatever you think of him by way of his films, that comment is an eminently Gawker-worthy bit of irony. You guys are dog piling on yourselves.
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snugbug
10/13/09

@Bulkington: "Come one" yourself, young friend! We're just having fun here. Yes, the quote is funny--although it was purposefully truncated for enhanced effect.
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Bulkington
10/13/09

@snugbug: Aw shit @ the typo. I was responding to the earnest dudgeon that's so often the jeckyl to this site's hyde. Or is it the hyde to this site's jeckyl?
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pukatronic
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Say what you like about his films, because you either like them or you don't. I personally find Lars von Trier's work fantastic and he is by far my favorite director currently working today.

The comments in this thread personally attacking von Trier rather nicely show how the provocateur is manipulating you all - he's got a marvelous sense of humor! If you can't tell Lars' tongue is firmly planted in his cheek, then the joke is on you. Not to say that he isn't possibly an asshole of huge proportions (many talented directors were - see von Stroheim, Lang, Fassbinder) but I certainly don't believe that von Trier takes himself as seriously as some of the posters here seem to. The adding of "von" to his name is a prime example of Lars taking the piss out of himself and his persona he's created.
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/13/09

@pukatronic: More "taking the piss?" I think I've had it with that as a comic device, thanks. It doesn't work for Australians in blackface and it doesn't work for this wife-dumping pasty-faced clown. "Taking the piss" is what people do when they're so full of shit, nothing else can come out.
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pukatronic
10/13/09

@RollsRoyceRevenge: How can you lump Lars von Trier with the Australians in blackface incident? "Taking the piss" means mocking something - are you against all satire? "Von" is a hoity toity title Trier gave to himself in his film school days and it's all part of the joke. I enjoy von Trier's work from an artistic perspective, but I would like to point out that he's also quite funny. Check out Riget (The Kingdom) - Udo Kier as a giant baby head! ha!
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/13/09

@pukatronic: I know what "taking the piss" means. It means "I'm not very funny, but I am insulting, but I only mean it too be funny, which I am not." Or something like that. It's a catch-all "we didn't really mean it" waffle.
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pukatronic
10/13/09

@RollsRoyceRevenge: Sorry that you read so much into the phrase "taking the piss". Did you have a bad experience with it? ;) You shouldn't fixate so much about that singular phrasing by me anyway - if you disagree, perhaps share why you feel von Trier is a humorless prick. As is, you seem to be stuck on semantics and I stand by my view, seeing von Trier as an interesting artist that, yes, has a sense of humor.
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picardia
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Lars von Trier gets marvelous performances out of actors, and he knows how to film beautifully, but go away from the technical to the intellectual, and he's utterly empty. He sets up these totally unlikely "fable" scenarios to (a) kill his martyrs, (b) prove some point about "America," which is not the country but the projection screen used by a certain kind of shabby poseur for the darker sides of human nature as embodied everywhere, and (c) end even his more interesting storylines in as depressing a manner as possible, whether or not it makes any narrative/moral/logical sense. People who eat this stuff up must think the Emperor's new clothes look AWESOME this season. I "get" him. He fucking clobbers you over the head with a sledgehammer; how could anybody not "get" him? But I, like a thankfully increasing number of people, just see how shallow and meaningless he is. It's a pity, too -- if that kind of technical skill were actually married to a brain, he'd be rather good.
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snugbug
10/13/09

@picardia: I grow weary of defending one of my favorite working directors. You're right that von Trier has been working in a fable format, though. Think "metaphor." His M.O. is clever manipulation of emotions. I am convinced he couldn't care less if you agree or disagree with him. He IS is a filmmaker of ideas, but his end-game is not recruiting followers. He just wants to stir sh*t up. Raise questions. Jab you in the ribs. If you step back for a moment, you can clearly diagram what he's doing. There's method and meaning to what he does. Also, he's f*cking brilliant at telling stories on film. Versatile, too. His career arc went from ultra baroque filmmaking ("Zentropa)" to austere Dogme dogmatism to.. something else.
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Niko Bellic
10/13/09

@picardia: Lars von Trier gets marvelous performances out of actors, and he knows how to film beautifully, but go away from the technical to the intellectual...

And just skip the artistic?
Nah... thanks.
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goetz
10/13/09

@Niko Bellic: NICE.
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/13/09

@Niko Bellic: What "artistic"?
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i'm a bottle
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Lars von Trier epitomizes the pseudo-intellectual. And, as to the quality of his art: he's slid by all these years because the critics are too afraid to look dumb by criticizing him.
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Niko Bellic
10/13/09

@i'm a bottle: And, as to the quality of his art...

Haa. For a second there I thought you were going to say something about art. Damn! You got me.
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topsy
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
The worst punishment I can think of for this asshole is to force him to PAY for and watch his own creations.
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shailiethakkar000001002003004
10/13/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
i find lars von trier's style exploitative. certainly evocative, but in a cheap way. when i first saw dogville i admired its staging and visual aesthetic but found it familiar. the narrative style (stage manager/john hurt's character are eerily similar), staging, small-town characterization, was parallel to if not a perverted response to Wilder's *Our Town* or even the film staging of it. (which i thought made the film at least a little more interesting). i looked for information about where trier drew inspiration and finally found an interview in which he completely denied any connection at all to the play and rebuffed the blatant similarities, calling his work original and insulting american literature along the way. I think von trier's response demonstrated how one's megalomania can in fact interfere with his artistic expression and affect/limit the significance of a work.

the quote, with him projecting/inflicting his rather shallow worldview, just confirms how limited his scope is as an artist/storyteller.
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Seeräuber Jenny
10/13/09

@shailiethakkar000001002003004:

It was Wilder crossed by Brecht/Weill.
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i'm a bottle
10/13/09

@Seeräuber Jenny: Without the wit, the soaring height of Brecht's lyrical brilliance, the supreme irony, the alienation and the Publikumsverarschung, and the musical roots in pre-war Berliner Kabarett, well, in short, without anything resembling Brecht and Weill at all.
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i'm a bottle
10/13/09

@Seeräuber Jenny: I don't understand at all what you mean. Please, please explain.
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RollsRoyceRevenge
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Dear Lars Von Trier,

I'm very sorry you were named after a forklife and even sorrier that you are bereft of the smallest shred of humor, natural joy, talent, originality, a willingness to see life's ambiguities and multiple viewpoints or the ability to do anything at all to increase the human condition one iota past sanctifying your own miserable, self-pitying wallow in the day-old dogshit of your paltry tissue-thin soul.

There are many painless ways to commit suicide. Try a dozen or so until you find the one that's right for you.

I promise that when I read the obituary (TURD FINALLY LOSES SHIT or something similar) I will bite down on the insides of both my cheeks really hard so that I don't laugh out loud immediately.

Yours,

RRR
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Wrapitup
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Lars von Trier's disappointing new sequel, Breaking The Wind, is quite the stinker.
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PoBoyNation
10/13/09

@Wrapitup: As was Dookie in the Dark. He really shit the bed on that one.
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noahjacquemin
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Ah, that's it. Boycott time. Next time I go to Dunkin' Donuts I'm ordering a strawberry cheese freedom, by gawd, and I will not be corrected.
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Seeräuber Jenny
10/13/09

@noahjacquemin:

But since it's a Dogme strawberry cheese freedom, no strawberries and no cheese. Those are special effects.
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noahjacquemin
10/13/09

@Seeräuber Jenny: Can I eat it too or would that kind of action be considered superficial?
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DevilsAvocado
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Lars von Tried. Failed.
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Seeräuber Jenny
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
The NYT piece on Michelle Obama's genealogy seemed to suggest the same obtuse attitude.

Gee -- she has some European ancestry -- maybe we should take her more seriously!

Thank you, Gawker. Now I have a permanent reason to pass on anything by von Trier.
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MissNormaDesmond
10/12/09

In reply to Lars von Trier —
Misanthrope. Misogynist. Pornographer. Xenophobe. Enfant terrible. Child. Moron.
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Baroness
10/12/09

@MissNormaDesmond: Are we talking about Polanski again?
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MissNormaDesmond
10/12/09

@Baroness: I don't think Polanski's a moron. I think he's an asshole. There are some very intelligent assholes running around loose.
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