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Daily Show Lampoons Fox News' Reaction to Obama's Egypt Speech

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Wendy_Kroy
06/05/09

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Fox said that because the US has, like, a 55% "disapprove" rate in the Middle East, there's no point in trying to change their minds. You know who has a disapprove rate even worse than that, though? Congressional Republicans.
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Perhaps Not
06/05/09

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Everyone is afraid of Fox News, but it's not really worth worrying about. I mean they get the highest ratings of any news network on cable, but that's not actually a very stiff competition. More people watch professional wrestling. And their median age is 67, which is embarrassing. And their ratings are so high mostly because people leave their TVs tuned to it all day long. So what we're looking at here is a lot of old housebound people who fear change, sitting in their living rooms with their Hummel figurines, watching younger and more attractive people with better hair parrot their opinions, and only occasionally leaving the house to vote or buy guns.

Wait, now I'm scared again.
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Fry_Bread_Power
06/05/09

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Obama/Reagan/Gorbachev/GWB, US policies, whatever. I think we're all forgetting something really important here. Something we all can agree on: the phrase 'horse-flesh' was really fucking creepy.
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@Fry_Bread_Power: obviously, you've never had one of my famous horse-flesh quesadillas.
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monoverb
06/05/09

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Daily News: Talk Like an Egyptian

The sea of 40-somethings around me just called the 9.4% unemployment rate "the Obama effect".

Truly a wondrous creature this animal who believes being republican imparts a higher social standing. The elitist finger pointing is going the wrong way. You are Rebublican because your mostly uneducated parents thought it made them upper-classy to be so.
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Poodle_Heart
06/05/09

@monoverb: up is down and black is white and peace is war and ignorance is freedom in their world don't you know
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hatchetman
06/05/09

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Why can't comedians like Jon Stewart be fair and make fun of both sides of the political spectrum? Until people like him and Bill Maher do so, they're political advocates, not comedians. I used to watch "The Daily Show", when it was a balanced satire of the news.
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Almostbanned
06/05/09

@hatchetman: Ditto. He gave the gentlest of ribbing to Obama a couple of weeks ago over gays in the military and a couple of other small things, and even that was handled with kid gloves. He's a partisan hack just like any other (and just like all the ones he makes fun of)... except he's worse because he couches his hackery in 'comedy', thus removing himself (in his own mind), another few degrees from any sense of responsibility for his words and actions.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@Almostbanned: Here is the reason why Jon made fun of Bush: Bush was an idiot. A fucking babbling moron. Obama however, is not an idiot, so you can't really make fun of him. Why don't you try it? It just can't be done.

If you were a real conservative, and not merely a frustrated hypocrite, you would appreciate Jon's taking the jabs based on merit, as opposed to based on some commie idea that everyone should be treated equally, no matter their mental disabilities.
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gawkimo
06/05/09

@hatchetman: Because comedians don't have to be "balanced" and they don't have to lampoon political leaders equally. Some political leaders are more deserving of being lampooned than others. No president will be more deserving of ribbing than Bush, regardless of their political leanings. If you don't understand that, at least recognize your own biases that lead you tot he conclusion that Obama and Bush are equally deserving of satire -- maybe Bush just gave the world so much more material to work with.
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Anthony_Underscore
06/05/09

@Almostbanned: One problem with these hybrid "it's a news show!"/"it's a comedy show!" programs is the live audience, because a lot of discourse (particularly on Maher) is playing to the mob.

The other problem is the frequent appearances of Ann Coulter.
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Carol Gardens
06/05/09

@Anthony_Underscore: Actually, he did make fun of Obama's speech as well. As far as all the "shout-outs" to Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@hatchetman: Why can't comedians like Jon Stewart be fair and make fun of both sides

Why can't your side just find your own damn comedian?
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: because the best right-wing comedians can come up with is "barack the magic negro". and dennis miller. oh boy.
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DennyCrane
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: You ever watch Red Eye? Doesn't quite work as well. I think liberals are naturally funnier.
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@hatchetman: um. do you listen to lenny bruce records and bitch because he doesn't tell "you might be a redneck" jokes?
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@DennyCrane: except the king buzzo clips. watch them. it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Better to Eat You With
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: Conservatives have no sense of humor. Modern-day Republicans, many of whom aren't conservative anyway, are even worse.
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Carol Gardens
06/05/09

@Better to Eat You With: Officially, the have P.J. O'Rourke. Make of that what you will.
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theMoJo
06/05/09

@Almostbanned: YOU GUYS ARE JEALOUS CAUSE NO RIGHT WINGER WILL EVER GET OVER AS WELL AS JON! HAHAHAHAHAHA YOU SUCK.

Seriously though, no one on Fawx Red Eye is ever going to be anywhere near as creative, original, or genuinely funny as ANYBODY on The Daily Show.

And seriously Almostbanned, you suck ass. It's so fun coming here to see what zany retarded sound bite you'll come up with. You so silly, man! :D
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gawkimo
06/05/09

@johnny_carsick: I don't know. Dennis Miller called that annoying Danny Boyle movie "Slumdog Squarepants" because it's basically a liberal cartoon and caricature of Indian poverty with a feel-good ending. I thought that was kinda funny: "Slumdog Squarepants."
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gawkimo
06/05/09

@theMoJo: Red Eye is funny the way my uncle is funny after a few beers. That is: not very funny, but spirited!
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abettertomorrow
06/05/09

@gawkimo: The show itself is a comedy show, and it's sometimes hilarious. For me, mostly because of the great video segments - found footage and bits.

Jon Stewart, and the relationship he creates with his audience, seem grounded in political hackery.

People in the audience laugh at the bits, and at the video. Their response to Jon Stewart, specifically, is more of a knowing head nod, a "right on, man!", a "you're right, those lying bastards!" response.
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Almostbanned
06/05/09

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The problem is that there currently isn't a middle eastern Gorbachev to partner with.

Gorbachev ultimately knew that the Soviet Union was all smoke and mirrors by the time he came into power, and realized that a dignified partnership with the Americans would pay dividends in terms of political cover and global prestige once the domino's started to tumble.

Reagan recognized in Gorbachev a willing and trustworthy partner who was genuinely interested in moving the relationship forward, and took advantage accordingly, with great success.

Lets never forget though, that Reagan backed up his formidable diplomacy with the largest military and technological expansion in history, and the absolute willingness to use it. Nobody doubted that he would use force should the need arise, and this gave his diplomatic efforts a sense of legitimacy which Obama will never gain.

Flowery diplomacy without the threat of force to back it up nor a willing partner on the other side of the table has a name: Jimmy Carter.

Reagan was fortunate to have Gorbachev (as well as Thatcher and Pope JPII), for sure. Had he not been there, things would have turned out differently. Obama is following in Carter's footsteps (to our peril), and offering blind olive branches to nobody in particular, backing his words up with nothing, and keeping his fingers crossed that nobody blows us up.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@Almostbanned: I am baffled by this idea shared by many Americans, many of them liberals, that US foreign policy had something to do with the fall of Soviet Union.

America had something to do with it, yes, but not through it's military might, and most certainly not through something Reagan said to Gorbachev. It helped through it's cultural influence, which came mostly from places like Berkley, Hollywood, Harlem, and Venice Beach. Not the fucking White House, for sure.
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Almostbanned
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: Oh Jesus, you don't actually believe that, do you? Wow. At first I thought you were just an idiot, now it's clear you're also insane.
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jbwan
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: wait. the USSR fell b/c of some homeless crack addict selling wire sculptures on the beach?
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@Almostbanned: You could at least try to write your own response, as opposed to coping what everyone has been telling you around here.

I thought it was common knowledge that Soviet Union imploded from within, mostly helped by the idea of a better life coming from the West, and not by Reagen saying "we will really, really, REALLY use our nukes" louder than Carter.
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Poodle_Heart
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: fax machines killed the soviet union ...
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: You think that the Soviet Union was toppled by cultural influence? Like the kids all rose up Rock and Roll Highschool Style and toppled the second most powerful nation in the world? It was in large part the US spending coupled with the fact that most of their people were lying about the productivity of the country out of fear.

@Almostbanned: You're entry was so on the money, I almost can't comment other than to say congratulations on being awesome.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@jbwan: Damn. You people don't know the history of your own Venice Beach. Why would I expect you to know the history of my Eastern Block.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: I think you should read again what I wrote. I wrote that the cultural influence had something to do with it, not that it was the thing that did it.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: @Almostbanned: You're entry was so on the money, I almost can't comment other than to say congratulations on being awesome.

Except that you already did comment on it, by saying it was the spending that did it, and not the "fact" that Gorbachev had no doubt that US would start the nuclear war.

Only, you somehow shot that at me, while you sent all of the kisses to your sweetheart. I am hurt!
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Lady Penelope
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: Americans love believing that the gipper rode in on his horse and ended the cold war. That's a real slap in the face to the Russian, Polish, Czech, and thousands of other dissidents who worked away behind the wall helping to bring it down well before Ronnie came on the scene.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@Lady Penelope: Oh, do I have a reply for you:

You're entry was so on the money, I almost can't comment other than to say congratulations on being awesome.
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BadUncle
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: The USSR wasn't "toppled" by diplomacy. But it was (and still is) a nation deeply steeped in the cultural heritage of Nicolas I's Official Orthodoxy. Thus, when communism collapsed, they could just have easily leaped to a desperate confrontation with us from a deeper anti-Western position. But three decades of conversation and trade internationalized their relationship with the US, making the transition from Communism less dangerous to the world at large.

If anything the history of US / USSR diplomacy underscores the benefit of conversations with your enemy.
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: only common knowledge among people who, you know, actually read a thing or two about the history of the Soviet Union. but you can't score cheap political points by saying "read something, it's kinda complicated."
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@johnny_carsick: We don't educate or score cheap political points here. We ridicule!
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: hey, your name sounds funny! wasn't "niko" that chick in the velvet underground? ha!

*wipes tear from eye*

oh, foreigners.
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: Okay, so as to sooth our relationship, I really just wanted to get a Rock and Roll High School reference in there. Gabba gabba hey.

You're a good commenter, NB. My differences and occasional sarcasm are not a measure of my respect toward you.
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: a dee dee/johnny sort of relationship, you might say.
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BxgrlJeri
06/05/09

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I know we blow a lot of smoke up Jon's ass on this site, but that's because he nails it time and time again.

The Daily Show: making Faux News look like assholes since 2000.

thank you Jon.
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momof3wildkids
06/05/09

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Great point about Reagan dreaming big -- Gorbachev tear down this wall.

Not sure that Obama is in the same group as Reagan though. Time will tell.
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You Cannot Untoast
06/05/09

@momof3wildkids: You mean, if he turns out to be senile?
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momof3wildkids
06/05/09

@You Cannot Untoast: Say what you will about the Gipper, he dug us out of the quagmire of Carter's economic policies. As bad as it is now, I think it was worse then.

I'm rooting for Obama because if his economic policies fail, let alone his international ones, our country will be in an even bigger mess than it is now. Then he could be the president that goes down as the worst in history vs its current holder, GWB.
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SaraRueful
06/05/09

@momof3wildkids: I just don't see Obama selling weapons to one group of thugs to give money to another group of thugs. So probably not.
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/05/09

@momof3wildkids: It wasn't all that apt a comparison to begin with. Gorbachev was the leader of a super power. Reagan befriended him after years of tough US policies weakened the USSR to the point where it actually was to change the way they did their business or cease to exist. Reagan's CIA oversaw the arming of the Mujahideen causing the costs of the invasion to skyrocket for the Reds. He also began his Star Wars (SDI) program, which threatened to upset the balance of power, forcing the Soviets to spend themselves into bankruptcy.

When President Reagan "asked" Gorbachev to tear down this wall, Stewart, it wasn't a diplomatic request to another world leader. It was a demand from the world stage. He knew that after weakening the Soviet Union and the coming of a more moderate leader in Gorbachev, it was time to make this demand. Incidentally, the wall didn't come down until two and a half years after Reagan's speech and during the Bush Administration.

The bottom line is that Russia didn't capitulate because of conversations and speeches. They capitulated because Communism failed. Reagan does get credit for driving their horse until it died.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Reagan's CIA oversaw the arming of the Mujahideen

So that's who armed Taliban, who provided a safe heaven for Bin Laden, who bombed New York and DC?

Fucking awesome, that Reagan!
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Poodle_Heart
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: yes exactly, and the money that bought the weapons they have today is us money
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ChillbearLatrigue
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: Yeah, that all did happen. We actually didn't have a problem with the region until Congress cut their funding and Clinton put them on them on the terror watch list. I'm not saying that they didn't wind up belonging there, but there was 12 years of government between Reagan and Bush 43. Do you think that period of time is long enough to have changed the landscaping a bit.

Incidentally, Obama was an obscure no one when Reagan was President.
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Niko Bellic
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: I am no big fan of Clinton. After all, the man bombed my hometown. All I am saying is: CIA armed Islamic fundamentalists, as well as Saddam Hussein. And now when Obama has to deal with that mess, you gonna bring up the fucking previous presidents as examples of how foreign policy should be conducted? Fuck that shit.
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BadUncle
06/05/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Yes, but yet there was still 3 decades of talks between the US and the USSR before this. The point that conversation is easier than bombing still stands.
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Sanson
06/05/09

@momof3wildkids: Reagan definitely turned the tide. He (with Thatcher) began the slide of deregulation and privatization that culminated in the economic shitstorm we find ourselves in today.
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@SaraRueful: or exploiting white male resentment and xenophobia. or establishing jingoism, arrogance and intellectual dishonesty as the three pillars of the modern GOP. or invading banana republics to score political points. or creating/supporting right-wing death squads. and essentially setting the blueprint for george w. bush.

but hey, he made us feel good about our selves!
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johnny_carsick
06/05/09

@Niko Bellic: don't forget saddam hussein! better the devil you know, as they say!
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Mediahohoho
06/05/09

To the point at hand (ahem). What Obama did yesterday was show leadership that is sorely needed in a world on the brink. It looks strange because we haven't seen it in at least eight years. Fox News can't handle it because it is dedicated to the supremacy of party over country. They had to criticize something about the speech; they chose the fact that he made it as their main talking point. Fail.
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Mediahohoho
06/05/09

@C.H. Sanson: He also virtually eliminated Pell grants while giving us the student load system we have today. Think about that every month when you write your check, wage slaves.
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