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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Well, here I go again abusing the "post a video" function, but I just can't help it. Dance away, friends.


    Why did it happen, and who was to blame?

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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @SarahHeartburn: Bastards. Click on the video screen and if you're on FIrefox, for example, you'll get the song on another tab. Meanwhile, I'll try another version.
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @SarahHeartburn:


    Let's see.

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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    This is only slightly better than the Weekend at Bernie's defense in which Madoff will pretend to be dead and will be dragged into court with his arms draped over a couple of 80s C-listers.
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    Image of AllsWell AllsWell
    12/28/08

    @VoxPopuli: We posted at the same time. this is like the fourth time this week that happened.


    I am going to be known as the echo commenter (or copy cat commenter).

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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    12/28/08

    @AllsWell: Well, there's only so many Bernie jokes out there, so it's bound to happen.


    By the way, what am I having for lunch today? Since we're apparently sharing a brain, I'll leave it to you to decide.

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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @VoxPopuli: Try shoplifting from Whole Foods.
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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    12/28/08

    @SarahHeartburn: No way - they always catch people and ban them. They have like casino-like security there. So I hear.


    @AllsWell: OK, that works. I'll go easy on the salt as long as I can have lots of butter.

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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    12/28/08

    @VoxPopuli: Whoa--you can get banned from WF? Seriously? Do they ban you from just that one WF or all of them? And is this a lifetime banning or just like for a week or so?
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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    12/28/08

    @misslinda: If this is to be believed, they kick you out for good. It's probably an exaggeration or a complete fabrication, but it makes for a good story. It keeps me from sampling the olives anyway


    [thecompanybitch.blogspot.com]

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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    So when Bernie was photographed wandering the streets the other week, he was rehearsing his Vincent the Chin act?
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    Image of gawkimo gawkimo
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Wouldn't it be great if we passed a law mandating a mandatory life sentence to all white collar crimes that cost individuals or companies more than $500 million? Most of these old white fuckers that do shit like this would be dead by the time they get their first parole hearing, 25 years after their sentence. Added bonus: these crooks must serve time in the same state penitentiary that the rest of us go to for selling crack or robbing a 7-11.
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @gawkimo: Great idea, but I wish. Welcome to Utopia...
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    Image of ifstone ifstone
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Jeffrey Skilling must be kicking himself for not trying an insanity plea. Why doesn't Madoff just pull a Ken Lay and "die" right before sentencing?
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    Image of surlybastard surlybastard
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Why can't one of the defrauded investors just have him killed? It's not like anyone would weep.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/28/08

    @surlybastard: Too easy. He needs to suffer.
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    Image of GirlyWhirl GirlyWhirl
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Hopefully, like George Bluth, Madoff has a pot-smoking twin brother on his way out of the woodwork to really liven things up.
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    Image of westie1984 westie1984
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    This was on Jalopnik not long ago. Stick around for the ending.
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    Image of The Black Snob The Black Snob
    12/28/08

    @westie1984: Heee-larious.
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @westie1984: Good thing he's a white citizen too. How the fuck does a monster like this walk out of court with a slap on the wrist? Wreckless driving kills people. (OH don't get me started....)
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    Image of ifstone ifstone
    12/28/08

    @westie1984: I might speed just for the chance to get a sidebar with Judge Hottie.
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    Image of Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
    12/28/08

    @The Black Snob: I'm so stoked that he fell off!
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    12/28/08

    @westie1984: He also turned out to be a registered sex offender, as reported on Jalopnik shortly thereafter.

    No surprise there.
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    Image of paige2two paige2two
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    In other news... related to the economy but not directly related to Madoff, I just saw an ad on cnn.com that says, "THANK YOU AMERICA, FOR INVESTING IN CHRYSLER"


    that is all.

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    Image of JinxyMcDeath JinxyMcDeath
    12/28/08

    @paige2two: Thank you for imploding so we had no choice.
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    Image of katekate is squared katekate is squared
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Oh, that lawyer? He's very good.
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    Image of JinxyMcDeath JinxyMcDeath
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    I think the guy who pushed me down and stole my purse is crazy. I mean, who does that? I think the lady who shoplifts lipsticks is crazy. Aren't almost ALL criminals a little crazy?


    Clearly, 'ol Bernie was a narcissist. Does that make him crazy? Would that make practically every investment banker and corporate attorney I know crazy? The answer is "yes."

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    Image of mmstk101 mmstk101
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Crazy . . . for Ponzi!


    No, but seriously, he should go to jail for quite some time.

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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    12/28/08

    @mmstk101: I can't seem to stop thinking the word "Yahtzee" every time I hear "Ponzi", and your post is not helping the situation...
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    Image of ifstone ifstone
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    A sounder defense would seem to be that his victims were asking for it. The list of Madoff investors who violated every principle of due diligence and diversification seems to grow every day. Stupid greed always finds a way to lose money. The galaxy of lawsuits that will emerge from this should help to shore up New York's economy.


    One question that hasn't been answered yet is whether Madoff was doing any trading at all. Was he sustaining his scheme through actual investments, even if these fell short of providing the returns he offered? It seems hard to believe that it went on this long as a pure Ponzi scheme.

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    Image of donner_froh donner_froh
    12/28/08

    @ifstone: Since there was no independent custodian for the securities he claimed to have bought, sold and held and since the audits were done by an accounting firm that didn't have the staff to do a complicated Form 1040, he might not have traded one share or option ever.


    Probably not the case but it would be possible.

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    Image of macbeach macbeach
    12/28/08

    @donner_froh:

    "3 replies by AllsWell, kdollarsign, donner_froh"


    Is that his legal team or Santa's new reindeer?

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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    Next time someone asks me to justify my self-destructive, maniacal behavior, I'm so going to say, "It's a proprietary strategy. I can't go into detail."
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    In reply to Madoff May Make the Crazy Bernie Defense
    The Kreplach defense?
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    Image of azilaw azilaw
    12/28/08

    @SarahHeartburn:
    Kreplach (Yiddish: קרעפלעך, sing. קרעפל, krepl) are small dumplings filled with ground meat, mashed potatoes or another filling
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    12/28/08

    @azilaw: Exactly. The Jewish version of the Twinkie defense. Too many carbs and fats will drive a man past the limit. Then there's the tzimmies defense. Whatever....
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