Love the first blue top, and black with plaid skirt is a classic. But I'm a fanboy, not a fashion expert. (Where's Patricia when you need her?)
And no one has mentioned Lesley Stahl's bizarre question/comments:
LESLEY: Can you believe this? We are so chemical, all of us. We are so chemical. The conscious brain hardly works at all, really...
LESLEY: Well, you go into almost any geek place, and they're not dressed like you. I see you as a kindred spirit to me in this, because I think you're a girly girl. You love nice clothes, you care about your shoes; you probably have dangly earrings like mine. I don't know...
LESLEY: It makes all the sense. I'm just looking at an ad on my TV for the new iPhone, the new one that's so tiny, tiny, skinny, skinny, skinny, as you're talking about this. And I understand that. But I think that it's perhaps a new thing, I don't know, for people who go to MIT and come out of computer science, to develop or be allowed to develop a love of art, a love of pretty things.
Is there a video? Does Lesley braid Marissa's hair? I wanna see it!
For six to eight months out of the year I pay almost nothing for lettuce, herbs, onions, potatoes, cimi di rapa, etc. My kitchen garden isn't very big but I manage to can enough tomatoes that I have a two year supply of sauce (Mario Batali's Basic Tomato Sauce recipe) on hand at any given moment. I haven't bought pickles in years and when everyone was avoiding spinach I was picking five pounds of it every couple of weeks.
A kitchen garden takes a little effort to begin, but over the years I've added so much compost (mostly leaves, grass clippings and yard/kitchen waste) to the soil that I barely have to fork it in the Spring. I have few troubles with insects, so no chemicals are needed and if I have a problem some diatomaceous earth usually fixes it.
I estimate I spend about six hours a week on the garden during the season and while I stopped assigning a retail value to what I grow a long time ago, I know my savings on groceries run into the thousands every year.
I'm not smug or evangelical about kitchen gardening, it's a hobby that gives me great satisfaction and peace of mind. I know it isn't some people's idea of a good time, but it works for me.
After record snowfalls for the past four months it was a real joy to head out to the garden and see garlic and onion shoots poking up through the soil.
@ambitious: @sarrible: If I lived in the City, I'd have to live in a building with roof access so I could put some tomatoes in 5 gallon buckets or something.
@WindowSeat: I'm looking for just such a place. So I can hole up and feed myself when New York becomes some variation on The Road (probably October-ish). My parents (in San Diego) had a tomato plant spontaneously grow by a bird fountain in their backyard. Bright red tomatoes. Out of nowhere. They also have a wild bunny rabbit problem. Backyards! If I weren't so into the communal drinking and the arts and the pee pee smells of my nabe, I would seek thee out for gardening.
@miss_msry: plant some basil then make your pesto for the winter. It takes five minutes: two cups of basil, two garlic cloves, two tablespoons of pinenuts, put it in a jar in the freezer. It will be the best you've ever eaten. And cheaper too.
Okay, this has gone beyond satire into a Twilight Zone-ish layer of idiocy difficult to comprehend.
Unless, that is, you just take it as a function of a group of people so outraged that a particular candidate and party has one the Presidency that they actually believe the following: American families practicing self-reliance, hard work and enjoying the value of one's own labor in the form of food that can only hope to complement what the overwhelming majority of families have to purchase is a danger to the agri-business industry.
One thing I know is that the concern being expressed here is not for anyone who might actually work in the agricultural center. It's only about someone making a commitment to hate so thoroughly that all rationality is abandoned. It's an all-consuming and ugly hate, too. I mean, really, hate on this and you're hating on America.
@skahammer: What's weird is the backtracking on this post, from the sarcastic derision of the first post to the, oh, tee hee, I was just kiddin'. And it's like, no, that's just your reflex.
@Mediahohoho: I'm not sure if the initial thrust of this was directed at me, but as someone who is opposed to the policies of the current administration, I will weigh in. I think that hard work and self reliance are two of the most important qualities that Americans can possess. It is because of my absolute passion for self reliance that I want to reduce all of these safety nets that we provide for the less than self reliant.
Let me be very clear. I think that if someone grows a garden for fun, for survival or just to reduce the amount that they will have to take from the government in the form of food stamps then I am all for it.
I do think it's funny thinking about millionaires (who also happen to be the most powerful couple in the world) gardening. I'm sorry. I can't really explain why. However, I know it's a good lesson for the children and I did have a garden when I was a kid. The problems that I encountered were that I wasn't very good at it and as a kid I hated my vegetables.
I don't think your opposition is to the policies of this nascent administration. From everything you've written about them, I believe it's personal.
Personally, I find that Obama stands in stark contrast to our previous president, who lived his entire life before attaining office as a recipient of unearned privilege and the largess of his father's suitors (the loan from a Bahraini oil entrepreneur that got him his stake in the Texas Rangers, for instance) without ever doing a lick of real work, or even being a part of a successful business venture of any kind.
Contrast that with the Obamas who grew up poor-to-middle class but hard working, attaining everything we're told we're supposed to aspire to--first class educations with honors, advanced degrees--on their own and then tell me that your derision for these "millionaires" doesn't have a touch of contempt that has nothing to do with your ethics and everything to do with your allegiance to a party. Or worse.
Presidents and their families lead, like it or not, by example. This is a good example of something everyone--regardless of their circumstances--should at least try, even if they don't like it and ultimately opt out. Why? Because there are millions of Americans who have no idea where their food comes from. And because only eating food out of cardboard and plastic containers is a major contributor to the astronomical cost of health care that is killing the American economy.
So...leading by example. I know, it's a totally weird concept. The last guy hid behind his powerful family, laughed at the contrition of death row inmates, lied a nation into war and told the world that Jesus had chosen him to be President. There's nothing honorable in his entire life that I would want anyone to emulate.
Look, I know you're trying, in some instances at least, to be playful, but every time you post about politics, your reflexive and obsessive hatred of Obama really shows. And like I said in a previous post, it just makes you a bore. Go back and read your first comment on this thread and explain to yourself why you think it's funny. Or why anyone else should care what you think.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Yes, I'm sure that's exactly the point. The Obamas want to stick it to struggling farmers. Next, Michelle plans to take the kids on a tour of an orphanage, to make the orphans feel bad about being parentless. Later, Barack is going to knock down some old people and laugh at the crisp sound of their shattered bones.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Ah, you're the new Che! Are you next going to scold us for taking a migrant worker's jobs? When I pick a fresh tomato from my tiny 4-container 'garden' in July, I'll shed a small tear. Avocados, pears, oranges and the like will still be on my shopping list.
The First Family plant a vegetable garden to set a good example for the nation. Because they are such a charismatic and attractive family, millions of other families follow suit. They then quit buying vegetables in markets. This drives down the demand for farmed vegetables. When that industry starts to crash, the demand for farmhands also falls off and that means layoffs.
In the mean time, the family is now distracted by the new garden and become less productive in their other more lucrative endeavors. So, now we have crashing prices, laid off farmers and a lack of productivity from the American worker.
All of this because our President is using a garden to distract his children from the fact that he doesn't want to commit to a dog.
I must ask whether you're familiar with the general dimensions and capacity of the average private garden.
In the mean time, the family is now distracted by the new garden and become less productive in their other more lucrative endeavors.
I think you have to presume that the gardeners will generally act rationally, and thus use gardening to replace their least productive (not "lucrative") endeavors.
I do note that many people swear by the exercise and existential benefits that come from gardening, so I think you also have to count those benefits against the opportunity cost of whichever "productive" activities are given up (downloading internet porn, would be my guess).
Alice is a dreamer (in the good way), and that's why I like her. She's trying. You might not be able to do half of what she does but her message has value.
So basically this is a no-confidence vote on the part of the Obama family; while they're sitting down to their nice fresh Victory salad, we'll be eating each other.
I thought I'd seen everything, but the idea that people could object to our first family setting an example for American families to take charge of their own nutrition and economic destiny by doing honest hard work in the outdoors and growing their own food is mind-fucking-boggling. That those people call themselves "conservative" just shows how very debased and meaningless the language has become.
That's not conservative. It's sore-loser dickheadedness.
Then again, these are the same thinkers who will go on at length about what a loser Jimmy Carter was for turning the temperature in the White House down to 68 degrees, while completely ignoring the fact that, had we followed his recommendations, our dependence on foreign oil would be fifty to sixty percent less than it is today.
It's good to know that "conservatives" don't believe in American citizens being anything but consumers of struggling farmers. Like ADM.
@chelseabill: Why? Why exactly do Alice and her ilk need to STFU? Are you that much of an ideologue that you'll reject any idea, no matter how useful, simply because it comes from someone you have labeled as an opponent?
@Wrapitup: Honestly, I support a lot of Water's ideas and I would like her to STFU. I have never experienced such grating, self-satisfied smugness in my life. And I work in the fucking arts. And live in Williamsburg.
Every time she opens her mouth to chastise the plebs in her best whispery voice, it makes me want spray pesticides down her throat and rub her face with Mickey D fries. Her smugness does a disservice to her message. Pollan is a better, smarter less insufferable advocate.
As an aside, Chez Panisee has very delicious food.
@ambitious: A very, very good point. Alas, I must acknowledge that you are right. I am listening to the clip as I type and I wish I could make her eat her own weight in Taco Bell burritos.
@ambitious: I have to agree with you, here. I love SOME of her ideas, can't stand her. She uses the word 'Nourish'. Nourish is not a word used in normal conversation, it's a word used in a one-sided lecture, the underlying meaning in its use being let's help those too stupid to know what's good for them.
Telling people how affordable fresh veggies are while poaching an egg over an open indoor fire with a 4 foot brass ladle reeks of ''let them eat cake'.
Because I live in the middle of nowhere we have access to fruit and veggies from farmers - not organic farmers - the old school type who've been planting the family farm for 3 or 4 generations. My neighbor has bee hives out in the yard with the best honey ever. I refuse to go to whole foods where the isles are filled with very thin, angry people who look like they need a good burger.
@Queen of the Passive Aggressives: Ever notice that vegetarians tend to be the first people to catch whatever virus is going around? I'm not against veggies but the only people I knew who relied on bee pollen and pure vegetarian diets were the palest, weakest, most sniffley people I've met and first to call in sick.
@Queen of the Passive Aggressives: The sad, or possibly happy, part is that here in New York going to Whole Foods costs about the same as a trip to a traditional grocery chain. And as us thin, angry folks don't generally have children, you run less a risk of slipping in someone kid's vomit (which I actually saw someone do at a Key Food near my house. It was pretty funny, I'm ashamed to admit).
@Private Hangnail: What Whole foods are you shopping at? The ones I've been to in NYC have huge price differences in just the basics. I'm not being snarky but I'd like to know. I get in my car and drive to Fairway vs hauling food home in the old lady cart so I'm looking for shortcuts here.
@maevemealone: I usually go to the one on the Bowery. I stick to their in-house brands then buy my produce from a fruit & vegetable place near my house.
So, I'm sort of curious to find out before I completely abandon gawker media for good, what women DO you guys like? never mind, I'm sure if I cared, I'd find it on Jezebel.
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And no one has mentioned Lesley Stahl's bizarre question/comments:
LESLEY: Can you believe this? We are so chemical, all of us. We are so chemical. The conscious brain hardly works at all, really...
LESLEY: Well, you go into almost any geek place, and they're not dressed like you. I see you as a kindred spirit to me in this, because I think you're a girly girl. You love nice clothes, you care about your shoes; you probably have dangly earrings like mine. I don't know...
LESLEY: It makes all the sense. I'm just looking at an ad on my TV for the new iPhone, the new one that's so tiny, tiny, skinny, skinny, skinny, as you're talking about this. And I understand that. But I think that it's perhaps a new thing, I don't know, for people who go to MIT and come out of computer science, to develop or be allowed to develop a love of art, a love of pretty things.
Is there a video? Does Lesley braid Marissa's hair? I wanna see it!
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A kitchen garden takes a little effort to begin, but over the years I've added so much compost (mostly leaves, grass clippings and yard/kitchen waste) to the soil that I barely have to fork it in the Spring. I have few troubles with insects, so no chemicals are needed and if I have a problem some diatomaceous earth usually fixes it.
I estimate I spend about six hours a week on the garden during the season and while I stopped assigning a retail value to what I grow a long time ago, I know my savings on groceries run into the thousands every year.
I'm not smug or evangelical about kitchen gardening, it's a hobby that gives me great satisfaction and peace of mind. I know it isn't some people's idea of a good time, but it works for me.
After record snowfalls for the past four months it was a real joy to head out to the garden and see garlic and onion shoots poking up through the soil.
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Unless, that is, you just take it as a function of a group of people so outraged that a particular candidate and party has one the Presidency that they actually believe the following: American families practicing self-reliance, hard work and enjoying the value of one's own labor in the form of food that can only hope to complement what the overwhelming majority of families have to purchase is a danger to the agri-business industry.
One thing I know is that the concern being expressed here is not for anyone who might actually work in the agricultural center. It's only about someone making a commitment to hate so thoroughly that all rationality is abandoned. It's an all-consuming and ugly hate, too. I mean, really, hate on this and you're hating on America.
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It's not a place I willingly go, but from your efforts I can see the value of getting a peek now and then.
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Let me be very clear. I think that if someone grows a garden for fun, for survival or just to reduce the amount that they will have to take from the government in the form of food stamps then I am all for it.
I do think it's funny thinking about millionaires (who also happen to be the most powerful couple in the world) gardening. I'm sorry. I can't really explain why. However, I know it's a good lesson for the children and I did have a garden when I was a kid. The problems that I encountered were that I wasn't very good at it and as a kid I hated my vegetables.
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I don't think your opposition is to the policies of this nascent administration. From everything you've written about them, I believe it's personal.
Personally, I find that Obama stands in stark contrast to our previous president, who lived his entire life before attaining office as a recipient of unearned privilege and the largess of his father's suitors (the loan from a Bahraini oil entrepreneur that got him his stake in the Texas Rangers, for instance) without ever doing a lick of real work, or even being a part of a successful business venture of any kind.
Contrast that with the Obamas who grew up poor-to-middle class but hard working, attaining everything we're told we're supposed to aspire to--first class educations with honors, advanced degrees--on their own and then tell me that your derision for these "millionaires" doesn't have a touch of contempt that has nothing to do with your ethics and everything to do with your allegiance to a party. Or worse.
Presidents and their families lead, like it or not, by example. This is a good example of something everyone--regardless of their circumstances--should at least try, even if they don't like it and ultimately opt out. Why? Because there are millions of Americans who have no idea where their food comes from. And because only eating food out of cardboard and plastic containers is a major contributor to the astronomical cost of health care that is killing the American economy.
So...leading by example. I know, it's a totally weird concept. The last guy hid behind his powerful family, laughed at the contrition of death row inmates, lied a nation into war and told the world that Jesus had chosen him to be President. There's nothing honorable in his entire life that I would want anyone to emulate.
Look, I know you're trying, in some instances at least, to be playful, but every time you post about politics, your reflexive and obsessive hatred of Obama really shows. And like I said in a previous post, it just makes you a bore. Go back and read your first comment on this thread and explain to yourself why you think it's funny. Or why anyone else should care what you think.
03/19/09
Way to compete with struggling farmers.
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Are you next going to scold us for taking a migrant worker's jobs? When I pick a fresh tomato from my tiny 4-container 'garden' in July, I'll shed a small tear.
Avocados, pears, oranges and the like will still be on my shopping list.
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The First Family plant a vegetable garden to set a good example for the nation. Because they are such a charismatic and attractive family, millions of other families follow suit. They then quit buying vegetables in markets. This drives down the demand for farmed vegetables. When that industry starts to crash, the demand for farmhands also falls off and that means layoffs.
In the mean time, the family is now distracted by the new garden and become less productive in their other more lucrative endeavors. So, now we have crashing prices, laid off farmers and a lack of productivity from the American worker.
All of this because our President is using a garden to distract his children from the fact that he doesn't want to commit to a dog.
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I must ask whether you're familiar with the general dimensions and capacity of the average private garden.
In the mean time, the family is now distracted by the new garden and become less productive in their other more lucrative endeavors.
I think you have to presume that the gardeners will generally act rationally, and thus use gardening to replace their least productive (not "lucrative") endeavors.
I do note that many people swear by the exercise and existential benefits that come from gardening, so I think you also have to count those benefits against the opportunity cost of whichever "productive" activities are given up (downloading internet porn, would be my guess).
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Sorry Alice, I just wanted to use the word "ilk". Ilk is so hip lately.
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That's not conservative. It's sore-loser dickheadedness.
Then again, these are the same thinkers who will go on at length about what a loser Jimmy Carter was for turning the temperature in the White House down to 68 degrees, while completely ignoring the fact that, had we followed his recommendations, our dependence on foreign oil would be fifty to sixty percent less than it is today.
It's good to know that "conservatives" don't believe in American citizens being anything but consumers of struggling farmers. Like ADM.
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Every time she opens her mouth to chastise the plebs in her best whispery voice, it makes me want spray pesticides down her throat and rub her face with Mickey D fries. Her smugness does a disservice to her message. Pollan is a better, smarter less insufferable advocate.
As an aside, Chez Panisee has very delicious food.
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Telling people how affordable fresh veggies are while poaching an egg over an open indoor fire with a 4 foot brass ladle reeks of ''let them eat cake'.
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Since I've started reading gawker, you have done more stories on this person than you have on things that I actually want to waste my time reading.
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