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    Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show

    Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing

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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    This round of Schadenfreude is on me, folks. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    This is kind of blowing my mind, since Michael Moore seems to be making fun of a socialist. I'm confused. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    #metahalloffame #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    Well, it is a matter of public record that Hess always claimed he spent the night before the 1923 Big Putsch in Munich teaching the funny little führer all the choruses to the Beer Hall Polka. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    Michael Moore irritates me like no other, but come on. It was clearly told for comedic purposes. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    What legitimate points? Aren't his documentaries mostly "gotcha" pieces?

    "Roger & Me's" popularized scene was him being moved past at the GM shareholder's meeting. "Bowling for Columbine" had the Heston interview where he said dumb, racist things. "Fahrenheit 9/11" is all about "My Pet Goat." "Sicko" had the guy who lost a finger. Admittedly I haven't seen "Capitalism: A Love Story" but apparently the big scene in that is him attempting to citizen's-arrest the directors of AIG.

    Where are the salient points? That's a bunch of attention-grabbing nonsensical bullshit, much like claiming that you got Hugo Chavez drunk by chance in the middle of the night and he formulated policy statements based on it. If Moore presents well-reasoned arguments, they're buried under the marketing strategy for his work: be the sociopolitical commentary equivalent of "The Tom Green Show." I have yet to hear policy recommendations in any of his films beyond a lot of wouldn't-it-be-nice hokum about how Canadians leave their doors unlocked and it's ironic to have a museum in Flint where animatronic car-building machines and hard-hatted workers sing together despite a population made redundant by said machines. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @Unsolicited Advice:
    Thank you.

    Of course, the world might a better place if Hugo Chavez knocked a few back, but such decisions are above my pay grade. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @Unsolicited Advice: Here's a couple.

    First, Sicko may not have convinced me that Cuba's or France's healthcare systems are better than ours, but it did convince me that it's idiotic that we don't have universal healthcare. Americans accept "socialism" in other forms (e.g., Social Security, free education); why wouldn't they agree that healthcare is just as important a right as education? The fact is they do, despite the attempts by the insurance industry to change the subject. The film was very persuasive on that point.

    Second, in Bowling for Columbine, he made some very simple points about America's gun culture. Again, the fact that he can be misleading doesn't cancel out his point; for example, just because he lied about the timeline between applying for a bank account and getting a free gun, the point remains that IF YOU OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT YOU GET A FREE GUN. That is wack.

    I could go on and on.

    Fahrenheit 9/11 makes many, many points. I saw it with a Republican friend of mine, who was affected by it very much.

    He makes plenty of policy recommendations. Some I agree with, some I don't. But they're there -- in fact he beats you down with them. I'm frankly shocked that you claim to have not heard them. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    In reply to Michael Moore Shamelessly Tells Exaggerated Anecdote On Late-Night Talk Show
    Maybe he just meant that he was drinking tequila, alone, in the vicinity of Hugo Chavez. In which case, he isn't a liar, just an alcoholic. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @goetz: Using this technique, I can say, with conscience 99% clear, that I have eaten with and slept with dozens of celebrities. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: The first two times I read this I thought you said the following: "I can say, with conscience 99% clear, that I have eaten and slept with dozens of celebrities." That one percent was still holding strong. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @goetz:

    Mickey Rourke? Ate him. Angelina Jolie? Tastes like chicken... #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: And how do you sleep at night? Aside from in a bed littered with the boiled bones of today's brightest stars. #michaelmoore
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    10/28/09

    @goetz: Geez, goetz, I was just kidding. I don't really eat them, I just play hooky, sneak into their closets and try on their outfits. #michaelmoore
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    I say more Tucker
    I say more Julia
    I say more John Kennedy Page, (or whatever that 3 named touchwipe was called)
    The more Gawker builds them up, the more precipitous their fall(s).
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    Image of johnny_carsick johnny_carsick
    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    i miss spiegelman. not much chance of him coming back, though.
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    09/22/09

    @johnny_carsick: That was some bravura writing. Why isn't there much chance of a return?
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    09/22/09

    @pmarble: spiegelman unload a classic on denton and gawker on some comment thread a few months back. can't remember which. there is or was bad blood there.
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    09/22/09

    @johnny_carsick: Aw. Thanks. Not much chance of me coming back, though.
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    ian spiegelman was starred ian spiegelman was unstarred
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    09/22/09

    @ian spiegelman: Because I've been pretty mean to Nick, and frankly accusatory toward him in terms of NY State employment law, which he's brazen about violating and has yet to offer a single defense. Though I think Denton would overlook that for the small excitement of having me come in and do a thing or two.

    BUT, Gabe, his palsied hand at Gawker, could never ever deal with it. I've been nastier to him than to Nick, because I've always thought of Nick as somehow acceptably amoral. But Gabe used to be a writer. Now he's just managerial sludge. The stuff that remains in the dust after the baddies from Raiders of the Lost Ark get melted.

    Even if Gabe could cope with some kind of return by me for a weekend or a day, I would never submit to being edited by him. I'd rather have a goat spit at my copy and cut whatever lines the spit landed on.
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    09/22/09

    @pmarble: I meant to direct that last bit at you. Sorry.
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    09/23/09

    @ian spiegelman: sigh. shine on, you crazy diamond, wherever ye may shine.
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    10/04/09

    @ian spiegelman: God, I miss you. I basically stopped reading Gawker when you left.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    Also, he might not write to gawker but he'd put Richard Blakeley's name in the ad for his movie in a pretty foul way.
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    09/22/09

    @Mount_Prion: Yeah, I think that pretty much sums it all up. He may not respond every time but he sure as hell cares enough to go so far as to specifically target gawker in freaking ads.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    Like I'd write to Gawker?

    Like I'd know who this dude was, that he had a book, a blog and a movie, if it weren't for this site?
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    Ian Spiegelman deserves a knighthood for that...spiel. The man is a treasure.
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    09/22/09

    @Calraigh: word. That was beautifully ranted.
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    09/22/09

    @crookedE: Thanks guys.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    Tucker, always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said.
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    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    I know a lot of people don't enjoy Gawker's coverage/evisceration of him, but I kind of love it. Does anyone have popcorn?
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    09/22/09

    @homoviper: Who doesn't enjoy it? I think Gawker's finest moments come from peeling apart douchebags like Tucker.
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    09/22/09

    @RandomLunatic: I agree, but all these betches whining about "meh meh meh you give him too much attention" seem to think otherwise.
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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    09/22/09

    In reply to Tucker Max Lies About Totally Inconsequential Thing
    Is that a bagged bottle of beer sitting in front of T-Max? What an ass-hat. Is he capable of doing ANYTHING that's not a lame frat-boy cliche?
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    09/22/09

    @MrInBetween: It's probably a jumbo-size bottle of Zima.
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    09/22/09

    @Looker: As far as I'm concerned, referencing Zima is the funniest thing anyone can do, anywhere at any time.
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