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    Image of Kakapo Kakapo
    11/01/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    "Where else but in the world of a high school fish tank would you find characters named Piranica, Clamantha or Jocktopus?"

    Oh, no. #projectrunway
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    Tim G. did an interview in August where he talked about many of the planned challenges being scrapped at the last minute because of the change in networks. That definitely handicaps this season-- the challenges have been lame. Oddly, he didn't mention Nina and Kors being AWOL for most of the season.

    [featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com] #projectrunway
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    Image of MisterHippity MisterHippity
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    The reality is: Project Runway hasn't changed that much (other than being boring). The whole move to Lifetime (and new production co.) shouldn't matter in terms of the quality of this latest season.

    The biggest problem is that this year's cast is boring and not very talented. The people they put on the show have a huge impact on how good a season is. Just a couple compelling personalities can make a huge difference. Christian Siriano, anyone? This season has not Christian, nor anyone close (neither in personality nor talent).

    The production company changed (from Magical Elves to Bunim-Murray), but that didn't really make a huge difference I don't think. The new compnay is sticking to the standard formula for editing these episodes that was established back in season 1.

    The challenges could be better designed, and the Nina and Kors need to show up for judging more often. But the big problem, like I said, is this group of designers - they are boring in their personalities, and boring in the work they produce. A deadly combo.
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    Image of Colonel Mustard Colonel Mustard
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: I heard from someone that there was less producer tampering this year, vis-a-vis the aufs. Ergo, most of the crazies were weeded out early, leaving only the more boring and "traditional" contestants. #projectrunway
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    Image of MisterHippity MisterHippity
    10/30/09

    @Colonel Mustard: Interesting. If that's true, then maybe producer tampering isn't such a bad thing after all, huh?

    The judges haven't just kicked off several interesting personalities (such as Malvin and Ra'mon) -- they've also auf'd a few folks who look very promising talent-wise (such as Epperson and Shirin).

    Maybe in the past, the producers have been rescuing the judging panel from their own bad judgment!
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    Edited by MisterHippity at 10/30/09 2:15 PM MisterHippity was starred MisterHippity was unstarred
    Image of Zira Zira
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: I don't watch the show enough to remember the names but I think the tall blonde chick is very talented and personable too--but she isn't very exciting.

    We should all take sewing lessons at FIT so we can compete on the show next season to shake things up! #projectrunway
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    Image of GooberSaysHey GooberSaysHey
    10/30/09

    @Colonel Mustard: That seemed like the case to me, too. I felt like some of the people they would have kept around longer on Bravo just for the nut factor and drama. At first I thought this season was just edited nicer (as in ... the new producers wanted to focus on the challenges and not the household drama) but I now think there just is no real drama. These people are so dull and without vision that they can't even find anything to argue about! #projectrunway
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    Image of MisterHippity MisterHippity
    10/30/09

    @Oryx Hearts Crake: That would be Althea.

    (My theory is that her parents were deadheads - hence the name.) #projectrunway
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    Image of GooberSaysHey GooberSaysHey
    10/30/09

    @GooberSaysHey: BTW, I never thought I'd say this, but I totally miss bitchy Kenley now. #projectrunway
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    Image of Zira Zira
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: Good catch! All the drugs Althea's mom was smoking when she was pregnant with Althea would explain Althea's ethereal presence. #projectrunway
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    Image of firewater231 firewater231
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: amen #projectrunway
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    Image of heywhat heywhat
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: That and in past seasons there was a consistent panel of judges that could sense who was really talented and who was just mediocre. I remember people like Michael Knight and Jeffrey having a bad week and getting a pass b/c the judges knew they had potential.

    I agree that the challenges are really badly designed. Last night's challenge really had me scratching my head. I really don't know how they thought that challenge could yield any innovative and interesting designs. The designers just took their old designs and tampered with them a little.
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    Image of Bindlestiffy Bindlestiffy
    10/30/09

    @MisterHippity: More likely RobinTrower (Procul Harum) fans...Al(i)thea is a song of his. #projectrunway
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    Image of GooberSaysHey GooberSaysHey
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    Nothing about PR is right this year. Wrong city. Terrible time slot. Boring cast (where are the nutty break-out characters??), inconsistent lineup of judges (I need Nina's weekly snark, damn it, to know whether or not I like the dresses), no tension, and even Tim Gunn seems out-of-sorts. (I read somewhere that he spent the whole season terrified of earthquakes.)

    Also, it doesn't help that it's on Lifetime ... that here in New York is buried on Channel 62 which is nowhere near anything else I watch, so I never scroll by and see it coming up. If it wasn't for DVR show subscriptions I would never see it. I don't even notice that it's been recorded each week until I'm scrolling through my saved shows on Sunday mornings. #projectrunway
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    Image of Cynner Cynner
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    PR is down because no one in their right minds watches Lifetime. Half of us don't have it listed on our custom channels, and be damned... MOST of us miss it. Normal Lifetime viewers are NOT into PR. Now let's add a city move, designers who can't design and the loss of Bravo and it's advertising power.

    OH, if only Bravo could be on the 'lower end' of channel selections, what a HUGE fanbase they would have. #projectrunway
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    Image of robina robina
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    The ratings for Project Runway are down because this season has been a nightmarish waste of time for anyone who's ever seen it before. They've completely alienated the built-in audience due to inconsistent judging, sub-sub-par challenges, and mediocre-at-best designers who don't realize how easy they have it. #projectrunway
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    Image of JungleBuddha JungleBuddha
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    sorry Lifetime, we gays can't gentrify everything #projectrunway
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    Image of Tattertotter Tattertotter
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    The real reason the show is sooo boring and banal this season is LOS ANGELES. A fashion show that's not in New York is bound to fail, and it should! LA is limp and will never "make it work" because most of the people dress like they're going bowling in Tulsa every fucking day. Or you can blame the whole damn thing on that fucking Macy's Accessory Wall . . . #projectrunway
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain

    And what of D'Onofrio? #projectrunway
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    Image of Colonel Mustard Colonel Mustard
    10/30/09


    @Spirit Fingers: If Chris Hemsworth promises to be shirtless a lot, I will watch the SHIT out of this Thor movie, regardless of whether he lives in Chicago (as would be authentic,) or not. #projectrunway
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    Image of sarrible sarrible
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    That is because this season of Project Runway is unspeakably boring and low-rent. The new producers are crap, and this year's designers are all bitchy in a spectacularly boring way. There's no Wendy Pepper, there's no Laura with her pile of kids, there's no Santino. There's just mush-mouth Althea, crying Christopher, and pinchy, mean Irina who will probably win. #projectrunway
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    Image of BowlingForDollars BowlingForDollars
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    PR blows because they scheduled it opposite of my Real Housewives and made me choose.

    And my Tivo is already full. #projectrunway
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    Image of joefuntime joefuntime
    10/30/09

    In reply to Project Runway's Loss is Bravo's Gain
    Can someone explain why Lifetime would pay so much for a show based on visuals and not film it in HD? That blows my mind. #projectrunway
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    misslinda promoted this comment joefuntime was starred joefuntime was unstarred
    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/30/09

    @joefuntime: I get PR on Lifetime in HD. Trust me, the extra pixels do not make this season any more interesting. #projectrunway
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    Image of Cynical Media Bitch Cynical Media Bitch
    10/30/09

    @misslinda: Ah, but is the show produced in HD? I can't find anything that says it is, and that makes all the difference.

    @joefuntime: As to "why not HD?" the answer is that HD isn't cheap. #projectrunway
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/30/09

    @Cynical Media Bitch: These are clothes, not herds of baby elephants crossing the Serengeti. Though it would definitely spice things up a bit if the models had to walk the entire Serengeti. #projectrunway
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    Image of Cynical Media Bitch Cynical Media Bitch
    10/30/09

    @misslinda: The models look like baby giraffes to me.

    I agree that HD wouldn't make the show any more dramatic, but joefuntime has a point: a show that's all about visual effect ought to be HD from end-to-end. #projectrunway
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    Image of AugustaNuberty AugustaNuberty
    07/06/09

    In reply to A Context-Free, Comment-Free Review Of Contemporary Art, With Suggestions
    This 'review' reminds me of when the frat boys used to pee on our outdoor sculptures in college, we worked hard on them, but whatevs, snarkiness always wins out I guess. Although it does make you as cynical, if not more, than the most cynical pieces in the show...
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    07/06/09

    Both AugustaNuberty and pononimo: I think you guys missed my comment up above. I enjoyed some of it. And I think you, Augusta, definitely proved the point I made...


    But how does one get into the position to be able to put someone sleeping in a museum and call themselves an artist? Do you have to be embedded in the art scene? Well-established? Anyway. Maybe this makes me a conservative yokel without any kind of appreciation for the more intelligent "pleasures" of life. Or maybe it just makes me someone who went to a museum and "didn't get it."


    ..in a most salient fashion. Why account for it when you can just write me off as a "frat boy"? [True story: I'm a college dropout! He's uneducated. No wonder he can't appreciate it!] Also, if you read through the rest of the comments, you'll note the stuff I did enjoy. But what's wrong with being cynical about art? I feel like if you're unendingly sincere about it, you're probably getting hosed by the artist.


    Meanwhile, Ponomino: I'm not a journalist, and I'm not trying to be. Nor am I trying to be an art critic.


    The best comment so far came from The Boulevard of Broken Queens, who asked the more interesting question..."is it satisfying your idea of an art experience? does it fufill your personal criteria for an art object" these, apparently, were not. therefore, they do not qualify as art for you, or rather only qualify as objects which were indicated to you as art.


    That's accounting for art. And for the $12 I paid to support it, whether I enjoyed it or believed in it. I obviously believe in it enough to shell out money for it, though, so as far as sincerity goes: back the fuck up.

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    Image of maevemealone maevemealone
    07/06/09

    In reply to A Context-Free, Comment-Free Review Of Contemporary Art, With Suggestions
    The Trecartin video is like if Nell gave birth to Steve-O. I somehow watched the whole thing...
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    07/06/09

    In reply to A Context-Free, Comment-Free Review Of Contemporary Art, With Suggestions
    "I'm often advised by people who know more about art than me that much of the point of this is to ask: is it art?"


    that was the only false note in the piece for me - IMHO, it's just never an interesting question anymore, not after postmodernism. because now it's always art if someone says it's art, so the more interesting question is, "is it satisfying your idea of an art experience? does it fufill your personal criteria for an art object" these, apparently, were not. therefore, they do not qualify as art for you, or rather only qualify as objects which were indicated to you as art.


    I like the puppy idea, and can the giraffe be reworked to look like maurizio cattelan's "not afraid of love"? because I'd like to see that.


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    Image of Solomon Grundy Solomon Grundy
    07/06/09

    @The Boulevard of Broken Queens: Hm, making the trite objective question subjective doesn't actually make it any more interesting, it just makes it more apiece with our collective descent into relativism. You'd be hard pressed to find a universalist in the contemporary artworld making broad, objective claims about what qualifies as art as such, well other than some bombastic recent Yale grad grandstanding annoyingly.


    But I do think your version of this pseudo-dilemma is more up to date than the original poster's.

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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    07/06/09

    @Solomon Grundy: but for me, the collective descent into relativism after postmodernism IS the interesting thing - all these parallel opinions, none of them leading to an absolute but some of them leading to groups and consensuses.
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