I like Olbermann. I think he's smart, a good editor, a smart writer and he concentrates on issues that I care about. I can't think of anyone on the right who matches up.
@Mediahohoho: Yes, this guy's certainly a joke, but his listeners scare me. You can smell the seething violence beneath their Men's Warehouse suits as they nurse their Bud Lites on the stool next to you.
@i'm a bottle: I think I'm lucky that I grew up in a shitty radio market and don't drive to get to work. What is it about people who need to have their worst instincts affirmed by "wild men" "willing to say anything" to entertain people who just don't want to think too hard? Even if you're well paid as WXXX's morning goofball man-of-the-people, doesn't there come a point where you realize you're nothing but a sad clown?
@Mediahohoho: He's a sad little man. While Obama is giving highly inspirational -- though nuanced -- speeches in front of the NAACP promoting a politics of personal responsibility and social justice, we have this angry homunculus spreading destructive messages encouraging needless anger and hate in service of his own selfish ends. It's too bad Americans aren't savvy enough to see this guy for what he really is: laughable but still dangerous.
@i'm a bottle: What a cynical, destructive and opportunistic existence; he's like Ann Coulter, he just says these inappropriate and fringe things for attention, to increase his relevance. I'm sure he would reinvent his politics if he were working a different market.
Guy had two minutes of almost-celebrity and now he thinks he can do a Limbaugh. I'd scoff, but the right wing actually does embrace these guys. I bet they're outfitting him for a Fox News complimentary jockstrap as we speak.
You liberals, (I mean, we liberals), will never actually exercise actual political power because we are unable to support our media - as the right supports Fox et al. If you're a liberal and you don't like Olbermann, I mean, wtf? How cringing and picky are you going to be?
@Hey_mikey: I am "cringing and picky" enough to not need my political views spoon-fed back to me by an egotistical buffoon.
Honestly, if Keith Olbermann is the flag-bearer of liberalism then we're doomed anyway.
Attacking anyone's heritage and creed (although the descriptors here are not accurate) is reprehensible. Let alone calling someone a turd. However, aside from Obama's status a human being, he is also the President. The office itself deserves respect. I am frustrated with our President's reckless spending policies as well, but I attack those decisions and not the man, who is not a Kenyan national or a Muslim.
Not that there would be an excuse for Muller's line, but I would have liked to hear the whole quote. The Chicago Tribune audio didn't include anything else.
@ChillbearLatrigue: In defense of calling people turds, I have called the VP of my co-op board a turd on many, many occassions because of his reckless policies. It's a good word, and I'm not taking it out of my repertoire.
@misslinda: Duly noted. Misslinda may keep the word "turd" in her lexicon. I guess actually I should have changed my wording. The denigration of someone because of race or creed is reprehensible. The word turd is fine, but is inappropriate in this case.
I get the impression, John, that you think Olbermann, for all his liberal bluster, is as much of an insufferable tool as I do. I had to stop watching when I began yelling at the TV, even though I agreed with him.
So you guys are telling me that the government is fine when three captured terrorists volunteer for some water-boarding fun in a prison camp, they get to participate any time they want to the point where they got to do it hundreds of times, but when a US citizen tries to do the same thing he, has to jump through all of these legal hoops to do it just once? Is anyone else here seeing the injustice?
@ChillbearLatrigue: Yes, shocking that local law enforcement declined to participate in something like waterboarding. I can remember when that was part of the tour we got in the fifth grade.
My big problem with this is that I don't understand why some guy who would have accepted anything--any heinous abomination dredged from the deepest recesses of human depravity--in the name of "fightin' the war on terr'r," suddenly, when people are beginning to really express their anger of that administration's excesses, suddenly has a come to Jesus moment about something your average person already knows--that drowning someone fits any sane person's definition of torture. So what? Sausage fingered misanthrope Chris Hitchens came to the same startling revelation a year ago (killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians to take out an annoying despot still apparently a-okay).
I simply refuse to care what this guy thinks about anything--whether he's joined the rest of his humanity in having a minimum standard of decency by which we all agree to act or not. He should have never been asked on Olbermann--his opinion ceased to matter years ago.
Why does Gawker still care about this story? No one else on the planet does. Waterboarding is torture. This stunt, whether the guy "faked" it or not, is irrelevant.
Mancow: "But the agenda... There's dark forces behind this. I, I really believe this. Forget the truth. A lot of people, Democrat and Republican alike have banked on this not being torture." {@ 5:43}
'Forget the truth?' Seriously, who the hell ever begins an argument with this statement?
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Man-Cow, on the other hand, is a ludicrous clown.
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Honestly, if Keith Olbermann is the flag-bearer of liberalism then we're doomed anyway.
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The way the right supports Fox et al. is exactly why they're completely outside of power right now.
Embracing idiots is not a wise strategy, no matter what political affiliation they pretend to be.
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Not that there would be an excuse for Muller's line, but I would have liked to hear the whole quote. The Chicago Tribune audio didn't include anything else.
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I simply refuse to care what this guy thinks about anything--whether he's joined the rest of his humanity in having a minimum standard of decency by which we all agree to act or not. He should have never been asked on Olbermann--his opinion ceased to matter years ago.
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Thanks for telling me I don't care about this story. Otherwise, I would have cared.
On second thought, I still care.
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I don't think the story is really about Chicago per se.
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'Forget the truth?' Seriously, who the hell ever begins an argument with this statement?