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TRexstasy
10/05/09

In reply to Dylan Ratigan Is a Colossal Prick
I thought Mr. McKinnon was handled with all the respect and courtesy due to a writer from "The Daily Beast".
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phlox✔
10/05/09

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Yes! We need more left-leaning pricks; both metaphorical and literal.
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Anthony De Rosa
10/05/09

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Sorry John, but i'm with Dylan on this one. O'Reilly does the same thing, and while I lean left, I appreciate when O'Reilly does it to guests that just want to push their own agendas.
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RandomLunatic
10/05/09

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John, you might want to check out a lot more Ratigan than this. While I actually believe he may be a real butthole in person - guys like him often are - he has an awesome knack for putting blathering political pundits off their feed and calling them on their massive reams of bullshit. He's one of my favorite MSNBC hosts and these days I'm usually allergic to cable news hosts in general. Ratigan refuses to accept PR-style talking points doled out by rote, and that's actually something I figure Gawker usually can get behind 100%.
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John Cook
10/05/09

@RandomLunatic: Maybe, but why does he invite blathering political pundits who dole out PR-style talking points by rote on his show? So he can self-righteously dress them down on live television? Seems like a better way to combat cable news idiocy would be to have a show where non-idiots speak intelligently, rather than one where idiots get yelled at for being idiots. Also, I guess describing someone who opposes the EFCA as favoring "corporate communism and total control of the American people" constitutes incisive, smart political analysis as opposed to, say, a talking point?
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unclevanya
10/05/09

@John Cook: I see it as a a two-pronged approach. Invite non-idiots, yes, but the idiots and liars are going on the other networks and not being challenged, so the poor viewers watch and go "hmm, McKinnon (or Betsy McCaughey) has a point there!" The liars and shills have to be exposed too.

I think Dylan's only crime here is trying to host The Daily Show without checking first to see if he became Jon Stewart overnight.
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afraidofauntieem
10/05/09

@John Cook: why does he invite blathering political pundits who dole out PR-style talking points by rote on his show?

Because that's the only people who will go on the cable shoutfests these days?
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
10/05/09

@John Cook:

Maybe they're positioning Ratigan as "the one we can trust."? Could have been just a little theatre.
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skt.smth
10/05/09

@John Cook: From the looks of it, he didn't invite this guy on. Ratigan was being combative even before he began his rant. By telling the guy to disregard his political history, he was obviously attempting to stave off a baldly partisan response, and when the guy then commenced his baldly partisan response, Ratigan pounced. My guess is that the producer lined this shmuck up and Ratigan wasn't particularly thrilled about it.
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Elektra
10/05/09

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Is it a banning offense to point out how remarkably tin-eared some of the Gawker editors are these days?
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John Cook
10/05/09

@Elektra: Who was banned?
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Matt Cherette
10/05/09

@John Cook: I believe he/she was calling you (and other editors, apparently) "remarkably tin-eared" under the guise of a question about the appropriateness of doing so.
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robotwaste
10/05/09

@John Cook: "Is it" vs. "It is"
It seems to be a question, not a statement.
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Elektra
10/05/09

@robotwaste: It was indeed a question. That's why it began with "Is it" and ended with a question mark. Perhaps it was a loaded question, but it was still a question. To which the answer is apparently "not yet." I shan't press my luck with queries about the editors' reading abilities.
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John Cook
10/05/09

@Elektra: You actually can get banned for using "shan't." Consider this a warning.
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Elektra
10/05/09

@John Cook: OK, *that* was funny.
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robotwaste
10/05/09

@Elektra: Nice
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
10/05/09

@Elektra:

Ugh. You guys are going to have sex now, aren tyoo.
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Elektra
10/05/09

@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Well, I certainly am. [pause] Oh. [pause] You mean, together?
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
10/05/09

@Elektra:

Yes, in the gigglical sense. (Patent Pending)
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unclevanya
10/05/09

In reply to Dylan Ratigan Is a Colossal Prick
He was a schoolmarmy douche, but he got the job done. Better people than him know how to do that without seeming so pissanty.
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Tremonius
10/05/09

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I have been waiting forever for someone, anyone, to cut down these shills at the source. It is obsecene the way they will fire up their mob of morons and then come into the studio and try and mislabel what is happening. In place of clamoring cretins, you have some suit glossing over racism with Big Government or Budget Deficit or any other Pox Noise talking point none of the rubes on the lot could even comprehend. Lawrence O'Donnel does this prompting well, and Dylan Ratigan shows his mettle here, as does the Repugnant author of this hit piece, and how many of them work at Gawker?

Bumper sticker: "Who is John Cook?"
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Voyou_Charmant
10/05/09

@Tremonius: Exactly!

I say it's just fine that Dylan Ratigan didn't let him start in on talking points, he asked him a specific question and he started sniping at policy and proposed legislation.
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Jupiter8
10/05/09

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Good for Ratigan-this guy is just a GOP hack trying to blurt out his talking points. I guess Gawker is stunned by actual TV journalism (asking a question, wanting an answer to that question) which is rare these days.
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unclevanya
10/05/09

@Jupiter8: Not Gawker. Cook.
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skt.smth
10/05/09

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Looks pretty legit to me. It seems like Ratigan asks a pretty straightforward question, and McKinnon is trying to inject some bullshit think-tank anti-union soundbite under the guise of expert criticism. This is exactly how the media should treat "strategists" and think-tankers. Good on Ratigan, by the way, for revealing the political history of his guest. Most of the time, when these "experts" are brought on to opine about this or that, the hosts never even take the time to point out who the person is (usually they belong to political consulting firms that actually make money by spinning the debate on various issues). Why the hate, Cook?
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mamacrass
10/05/09

@skt.smth: Have you seen Cook's other "opinion" pieces? Like this gem [gawker.com]

He's a dick.
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Czechette
10/05/09

@skt.smth: I agree. Ratigan was doing his job. Keeping the conversation focused on the topic at hand is essential. Otherwise it becomes just free air time for guests pushing a political agenda to promote their (unrelated) views on whatever they want.
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VeronicaDemonassa
10/05/09

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I don't really like that guy, but I'm glad to see someone finally call out one of these guests for this. It's frustrating as a viewer a lot of the time to see these professional talk show guests completely ignore questions then just talk about what they wanted to. Sometimes I actually want to hear the answer to a question, even if the host is a douche...
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John Cook
10/05/09

@VeronicaDemonassa: The reason there is such a thing as a "professional talk show guest" is that people like Dylan Ratigan ask people like McKinnon to come on their talk shows.
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Mediahohoho
06/29/09

In reply to Which White Republican Dude Will Destroy Obama in 2012?
Seriously, though, is there one new idea among this whole lot, adding in Mitch McConnell, John Bo(eh)ner, Bobby Jindal and anyone else self-identifying as GOP? Christ, I'm perfectly to having a functioning second (or third, etc.) party, but you've got to give me more than "Laffer Curve!" "Double Gitmo!" and "Hey you over there: stop that fucking!"
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atlasfugged
06/29/09

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Everyone thought Palin's family was a neverending source of entertainment and controversy. If Mike Huckabee ever became a viable Republican candidate, I couldn't imagine what the press and blogosphere would dig up on his color-coordinating brood of yokels:

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Mediahohoho
06/29/09

@atlasfugged: One of them (I shudder to think which) tortured and killed and dog when he was 19. Well, let's say he got busted. )Which means how many times did he not get busted?) The gov' made it go away. Wonder if he's graduated to serial killing humans yet.
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gawkimo
06/29/09

@atlasfugged: Jeesus, there goes the theory on vertical stripes.
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leonleonleon
06/29/09

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who the fuck names their child "Newt". though the name is quite appropriate
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City_Dater
06/29/09

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So really, unless both coasts fall into the sea before 2012, we're looking at the current administration having eight years for their cleanup attempt.
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booktart
06/29/09

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I fear that despite his "I have no plan to run for any higher office" statements, the Repubs might draft Mitch Daniels for either some national office, or to fill Richard Lugar's seat when he eventually retires. Which will be a bummer: Lugar is one that even Dems can usually like (he really seems to be a man of dignity and thoughtfulness and compassion, even though we don't agree on every single issue). Daniels, meanwhile, is a smug bastard.
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Mama Penguino
06/29/09

@booktart: And his brother Charlie is an asshole!
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