Instead of being shocked or amused, I have to admit that this is the kind of cynical crap with which I've always associated the coastal (Atlantic and Gulf) South. Flaky, arrogant governors; tornado temper wives; a voting public ravenous for great gossip and not really giving a damn when it comes to electing such characters; and all of the dogs and ponies our eyes can feast upon - all served up with some civil sounding bon mots laced with dual meaning.
Then again, I've always marched to the beat of a different Yankee drummer.
@Mean_Ol_Liberal: As someone born into Wallace's Alabama in the eighties who has watched nearly every state governor's administration implode in some catastrophic "oh my genteel heart, let us observe this to death while not learning anything from it" way, I think you've hit the nail on the head. This sort of crass crap is tailor made, but only for those willing to consume it. After having seen many of my home state's political leaders end up in the clink, and watched the nepotism that comes alongside electing social figures to higher office (bless her heart, she's wonderful, we have no idea what she actually stands for or believes), I would've thought the electorate would be at the point where substantive qualitative policy would decide their votes. Alas, if this had happened in Alabama, they might have already made her the new governor. The cycle continues forward.
@ampersandparade: It sounds all so....old. As if this culture is far older than 400 years. Jaded, cynical, shrugs expressed about who is in government or market dominance because it just doesn't matter.
Fun fact about the Sanfords: they met at a Goldman Sachs mixer (they both worked there) in the Hamptons, where I'm sure they drank white wine and ate arugula, just like liberals. So much for his "aw, shucks, I'm just a good ole Christian country boy (grew up on a plantation)" routine. I think they're both abhorrent, but she's definitely the brains of the operation.
@ParahSalin: She's not southern; she's from Chicago, from a Catholic family. And she's got her own money and now she is seeking her own vengeance. Tons of lip service with the ol' forgiveness line, but she made him, and now that he crossed her, she will ruin him, once and for all.
@BookishLookish: Oh, I know she's got more money than he does - she's the Skil Saw heiress (insert your own penis severance joke here). They met in NYC when they both worked for Goldman, which I always like to bring up, since Republicans always scoff at libruls hanging out in the Hamptons drinking white wine. She was also his closest political ally, and I think she engineered his rise to power, and I suspect you're right - she will ruin him. Rumor has it that she's going to stick with him to make his life a living hell, but I suspect he's going to amble off to his plantation in Beaufort, or to Argentina, and she'll end up with her own media company or political career. She's kind of like Sarah Palin, except with brains, class, and money, which is kind of scary.
Another fun fact: for some reason, which I don't really know, all the other Republicans in the state hate him, and this was true even before he embarassed himself and the state so badly. I'm not sure why, I wish I knew.
@Baroness: In a parallel universe, we reflect back on Governor Onassis' mid-70's administration, and how she once and for all made New York and the Democratic party forget the name Kennedy.
@La Mareada: Actually, what I find bizarre about that show is how hard they work to make the husband sympathetic at the same time. Not sure why this is.
Devil's Advocate: Is it better or worse (for his wife or in the general concept) that Gov. Sanford 'fell in love' with another woman instead of just hooking up with the random skanky 'ho' like politicians usually do?
@Lysergic Asset: Well, if the ex-wife of the ex-Governor of New Jersey is anything to by, either of those options is better than having said husband cheat with a man.
@Lysergic Asset: Don't waste any sympathy on Sanford, he's a class A dick. I seriously wanted to take a nine iron to his SUV when he said he wouldn't be extending unemployment benefits for South Carolinians, but he would instead be praying for the unemployed. He doesn't realize we can't all marry Skil Saw heiresses. The good news is the Republicans here are now in a bit of a pickle - the Lt. Gov apparently is a closeted big Mary, so they are left with replacing an unethical, lawbreaking, adulterer with a homosexual, or just leaving the adulterer in office. I know what you're thinking "aren't closeted homosexuals and Christian adulterers the base of the Republican party?" Well, yes, but they're not supposed to be so goddamned blatant about it.
@Lysergic Asset: You know your state is the laughing stock of the nation when Jon Stewart thanks you for producing such comedic gold. At the same time Sanford was bawling like a lovesick 15 year old girl, we had a guy get arrested for screwing a horse...for the second time!!!!!! I always picture the horse looking over it's shoulder and going "Jesus, not you again." I guess he really was in love with her. I mean the guy with the horse, of course, not Sanford.
@Lysergic Asset: Obviously a random hook up with a skank is better because a real man falling in love with a woman is sooo gay.
I have no respect for this jack ass. And I don't think it was "love" so much as falling for the romance, danger and excitement of the whole thing. But I do think there are all kinds of double standards and stereotypes about manliness at play.
@Cheruth: "But I do think there are all kinds of double standards and stereotypes about manliness at play." Absolutely. I am inclined to think that someday, we'll all be like the bonobos, no stereotypes necessary.
If you cannot finagle a simple intercontinental love affair with all the privileges of elected office at your disposal and the wretched state of South Carolina backing up your treachery, much as they did for Ol' Jesse Helms since two days before God made Adam, then you, sir, are unfit to govern. Step down and make way for someone with better trade craft, asshole.
Please. Much as I'd love to see this guy forced out of office for being a fucking moral majority hypocrite, what he did isn't at issue. It's that he got CAUGHT. How many of the Republicans and Democrats calling for his head are sneaking off for liaisons right now?
@SybilDisobedience: They are not considering impeachment because he stuck his willy in a woman other than his wife. They are pursuing the ethics claims because of misuse of government funds and equipment.
I could care less about the liaison, but I do care about using tax dollars to fund a booty call.
@momof3wildkids: Oh, I totally agree. I was just bitching about all the clowns lamenting his affair when I imagine a good chunk of them are conducting liaisons themselves. I totally agree that the ethics violations should be the focus here.
@momof3wildkids: They are pursing the ethics claims for one reason, and one reason only: they think it makes them look good in the next election if they do so - same as he thought during the Lewinsky [sham/circus/parade]. Lest you forget (as if you could) the Atty General of my fine state tried to lock up Craigslist's owners for facilitating prostitution just weeks before he announced his bid for the Governor's seat - and he's just one representative of the all-show, no-go type of politician that's kept us in the running for dead-last-in-everything for far too damned long.
@buttons: You want an ethical pursuit of an ethics inquiry by a politician? That's rich. What are they trying to be? A public servant or some such nonsense?
@SybilDisobedience: Dems get a walk on such charges since, except for the so-called Blue Dogs, their hypothetical escapades lack the hypocrisy component.
@Brad Brown: I read that as 'how many hand jobs were saved.' I suppose only his staff knows how many times he had his stick peeled, looking for fire ants.
I hope they nail him to the wall. I could care less if he was boning some Argentine booty, but he should be impeached for the ethics violations.
As much as I think Sanford is a tool, his desire for Clinton to be impeached was based, at least in part, on the stupid lie he told rather than the affair itself. [www.huffingtonpost.com]
@momof3wildkids: Amen sister, karma's a bitch!! I feel bad for his wife, but I think it's kinda funny that she kicked HIM out of the Governor's mansion for a while.
Letterman's kid is a victim of his father's poor self control, and his wife. Also, morals and ethics took another hit. Moral relativity in Hollywood is something that people outside can't understand. Good for them. If Letterman threatened him if he said anything, out of disgust, he might have threatened back. He said, he said. I think it reveals Dave's hypocrisy, and moreover, that he hasn't been funny for a long time. Alan Coulter has been gross for years. Dave needs to retire with his millions to his ranch and let Ferguson take the show. He's been up front with his issues, hasn't mocked children, and he's funny with little to work with. Dave takes 10 minutes of his show advertising. I mean really, Dave's a d-bag.
It's almost always impossible to prove coercion or lack thereof in these cases, and a subordinate might reasonably fear retribution even when no threat is made -- would you really want to risk your career on the chance that your superior won't take rejection personally?
This is why workplace relationships between employer and employee are just a bad idea, period. Sure, it might start out fine, but what if it ends badly and the superior can't resist taking revenge? What if the subordinate acquires undue influence? What if s/he receives a deserved promotion, but everybody knows s/he's sleeping with the boss and doesn't take it seriously?
It's just a huge mess and a bad idea and Letterman's pretty stupid for not realizing that.
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Another fun fact: for some reason, which I don't really know, all the other Republicans in the state hate him, and this was true even before he embarassed himself and the state so badly. I'm not sure why, I wish I knew.
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I have no respect for this jack ass. And I don't think it was "love" so much as falling for the romance, danger and excitement of the whole thing. But I do think there are all kinds of double standards and stereotypes about manliness at play.
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Every picture I see of Sanford reminds me of Frank Burns from M*A*S*H*.
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I could care less about the liaison, but I do care about using tax dollars to fund a booty call.
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As much as I think Sanford is a tool, his desire for Clinton to be impeached was based, at least in part, on the stupid lie he told rather than the affair itself. [www.huffingtonpost.com]
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This is why workplace relationships between employer and employee are just a bad idea, period. Sure, it might start out fine, but what if it ends badly and the superior can't resist taking revenge? What if the subordinate acquires undue influence? What if s/he receives a deserved promotion, but everybody knows s/he's sleeping with the boss and doesn't take it seriously?
It's just a huge mess and a bad idea and Letterman's pretty stupid for not realizing that.