On the topic of Scientology, I was once taught by an anthropologist of religion who repeated again and again: ‘Only the nonbeliever believes that the believer believes.’ Does that just hold for old-time religion, or does it apply to these people, too? #scientology
@goetz: I gather this anthropologist never actually spoke to a dyed-in-the-wool christian. that, or the anthropologist's standard for belief is too strong. #scientology
All the "Bradley Cooper dates famous women" reports seem like really blatant attempts to get people to forget the "Bradley Cooper was dating Victor Garber" reports. #scientology
@sarrible: Well, if the rumors were true, this was about 5 years ago while they were both working on Alias. The rumors also state that their breakup was the reason Bradley Cooper's character didn't make it to the final season. #scientology
"So, Mr. Spielberg, is it true that you have horns?"
"What do you mean, you don't want to answer that question? Do you or do you not have horns? Because I've heard that Jews have them."
"Look, I'm only asking as a journalist here. And since I'm talking to you in a calm voice, nothing I say should be considered offensive to you."
"Wait! Where are you going?"
"What a whack job." #scientology
@Mediahohoho: I'm an atheist, actually. I just fail to understand why a Jew wouldn't be offended by a journalist seriously asking a question about horns.
I know practically nothing about Scientology, but if that's an appropriate analogy (meaning that Scientologists' literal belief in the aliens/volcanos scenario is myth based on hatred just as Jews having horns is), then I can certainly understand why the guy walked out on the interview.
Of course, maybe it's just a really crappy analogy and the guy that walked out is a nutjob for other reasons. #scientology
@sweetbeans: We're talking about a church leader and the church's beliefs here. A better analogy would be: "So, Thomas Monson, do you believe that God lives on a star near the planet Kolob? Do you believe that God changed his mind about black people in 1978?" #scientology
@PontiusPirate: See, that's the thing. Assuming that Scientologists do believe in the alien/volcano scenario, then that would be the better analogy. Although, maybe like LDS, the crazier parts of the church's early mythology are being phased out, and members don't actually believe in them anymore. Just as many Christians probably don't believe that the earth was literally created in a week, Jesus-horses or not. #scientology
@sweetbeans: Well, that was my point. Horns on the head is an observable phenomenon. The wife of the religion's founder giving birth to a son at the age of 90, on the other hand, is a matter of the religion's mythology. Ditto the one about a teenage virgin being impregnated by God in the form of an angel. We could go on. To me, what makes this video so compelling is the outrage being generated in order to deny this religion's mythology. To me, that just signals cult, probably more than anything else about Scientology. #scientology
I believe the facility he's checking into is the: Reputation-Repair-Through -Addressing-My-Flaws Center located in Publicrelationsville, CA. #stevephillips
@xyzpdq: Not to be callous, but why is this assumed to be a "sex addition"? I know he claims he checked into a "facility", but just because he got busy with one co-worker (which is all we know so far), that doesn't make him a sex addict does it? If I smoke one joint, am I a drug addict? Just saying, because I don't think he should be able to claim that just to get himself off the hook. #stevephillips
@A Message To Rudy: From what I've read, Phillips has a history of extramarital affairs. Sex addiction (any addiction for that matter) is marked by compulsivity. You want to stop but you can't.
That being said, the only person who can decide whether or not he's an addict is Phillips himself. But when your behavior turns your life upside-down, like it did in Phillips' case, it may be time for him to consider that he has a very real problem. #stevephillips
@Charlotte Rae's Web: Call it what you will, it's up to Phillips to decide if he's an addict or not and wants treatment. I would think that a compulsion that results in you losing your job, your family, your spouse, your reputation and your dignity could be considered an addiction. #stevephillips
@Charlotte Rae's Web: Agreed. There are very few true sex addicts. sex addiction is the lame excuse people give when they get caught getting too much tail. #stevephillips
@xyzpdq: You can try to paint this as addiction but on the insanely rare chance he is, he's still in the wrong because he hasn't gotten help.
If you get caught cheating in grand style at work, a lot of things you listed can happen. But again, that's not necessarily addiction. It happens all the time and not all those folks are "addicts". Just because you are on, you can't assume anyone else who acts like an ass in this case is also one. #stevephillips
The time for legitimizing Scientologists by giving them any media forum--even while ridiculing their insanity--should stop. They thrive on attention and "celebrity" like star-struck 13-year old girls at a Hannah Montana show. If we--and all forms of media--just ignore them, they will go away. I for one am sick and tired of reading about them and their collective delusions. #scientology
@Tattertotter: Nah. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. The more the Co$ is scrutinized and revealed publicly as a greedy and dehumanizing organization based on the nearly psychotic ramblings of a second-rate Science Fiction writer the less likely any other people will end up like Lisa McPherson.
Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood SP #scientology
@NickelMD: But, doc, if people haven't gotten the message about Scientology over the last 30 years then They Never Will. Does that mean that we secular humanists should allow ourselves to be assaulted by their bullshit over and over and over? There comes a point when you just have to protect yourself from the Chinese water-torture of not just Scientology (which isn't of course a religion to anyone but the IRS) but all organized fantasies trying to keep humans believing in redemption, resurrection, afterlife, prayer, dogma, sacred texts, etc. etc. etc. OK, rant over, soapbox carefully packed away in garage. #scientology
@Tattertotter: I think that it is this coverage , the blogs, youtube, their inaptness at handling bad publicity/ which usually creates more bad publicity for them, and also Tom & Tommy has done more to expose them then anything else. The leadership is crazy and they know exactly what they are doing, but the people in this cult and those who are vulnerable to this cult need this information. I know there has been a lot of on Scientology lately but I don;t think they like it one bit. The Tom/Brooks Shields fight sort of made people who were previously unaware of them look more closely. I think this type of heat is just what they need #scientology
@Tattertotter: "But, doc, if people haven't gotten the message about Scientology over the last 30 years then They Never Will."
And we'll never have gay marriage, universal health insurance, and a black man in the white house.
If nothing else, the endless September was barely a decade and a half ago. And while the Co$ is declining in membership despite their claims otherwise, we (non-theists) are growing in numbers.
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We can want to not be annoyed by them, but you gotta let 'em talk. Ridicule is the way to combat them, not depriving them of speech. #scientology
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Too late, Justin's stalker realized that she should have concentrated on Steve Phillips. #scientology
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"What do you mean, you don't want to answer that question? Do you or do you not have horns? Because I've heard that Jews have them."
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I know practically nothing about Scientology, but if that's an appropriate analogy (meaning that Scientologists' literal belief in the aliens/volcanos scenario is myth based on hatred just as Jews having horns is), then I can certainly understand why the guy walked out on the interview.
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That being said, the only person who can decide whether or not he's an addict is Phillips himself. But when your behavior turns your life upside-down, like it did in Phillips' case, it may be time for him to consider that he has a very real problem. #stevephillips
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If you get caught cheating in grand style at work, a lot of things you listed can happen. But again, that's not necessarily addiction. It happens all the time and not all those folks are "addicts". Just because you are on, you can't assume anyone else who acts like an ass in this case is also one. #stevephillips
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Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood SP #scientology
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And we'll never have gay marriage, universal health insurance, and a black man in the white house.
If nothing else, the endless September was barely a decade and a half ago. And while the Co$ is declining in membership despite their claims otherwise, we (non-theists) are growing in numbers.
"There comes a point when you just have to protect yourself from the Chinese water-torture of not just Scientology... but all organized fantasies trying to keep humans believing in redemption, resurrection, afterlife, prayer, dogma, sacred texts, etc. "
We can want to not be annoyed by them, but you gotta let 'em talk. Ridicule is the way to combat them, not depriving them of speech. #scientology