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    Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television

    Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google

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    Image of shostakobitch shostakobitch
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    Couldn't agree with you more. Another example of this is nuclear weapons. Sure a bunch of hippies thought they might "explode" and kill us all but now that shit is totally powering my girlfriend's Hitachi Magic Wand!

    [www.nytimes.com]

    People need to just embrace everything new, all of the time. Bunch of grumpy grandpas. #television
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    When can we have the chip implant to put bright shiny images directly into our brains?

    And jetpacks? #television
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    Image of Seeräuber Jenny Seeräuber Jenny
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    "The television, that insidious beast, that Medusa which freezes a billion people to stone every night, staring fixedly, that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little."

    --Ray Bradbury #television
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    This whole thing is reminding me of Carrie Prejean attempting to walk off Larry King Live. Why do right wing freak-a-zoids always have to sit and whine and moan and shriek about "get off my property" and "I'm leaving!" and then never really leave? #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    @manchops: Bcause deep down, they can't live without knowing that somebody is watching them. That's what makes them matter. #newscorp
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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    From the report: "What types of programs might be best suited for studio presentation? For remote presentation? Would there be enough interest in such features as feeding the seals at the Bronx Zoo to warrant the expense of setting up mobile equipment?"

    Yes! Far more interest than watching Jay Leno and his "Predatory Animal Friends." #television
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/13/09

    @MrInBetween: One of the best things from the early web was the continually refreshing webcams set up in front of everything from soda machines on campuses to aquariums, parrot cages ... the predecessors of the shibu-inu puppycam.

    Fishcam: [fishcam.com] -- this claims to be one of the oldest continuous ones #television
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    11/13/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: Don't forget about the cornfield in Iowa. You could literally watch corn grow online. #television
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    11/13/09

    @HurtsSoGood: Oh yes. Amd the various internet remode controlled model trains ... #television
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    Image of TedSez TedSez
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    Back then, TV was "free" as long as you bought the equipment and watched the advertisements. Today, most TV channels and the Internet require hefty access fees in addition to equipment costs and near-constant advertising. In the future, when programming is downloaded directly to our brains, we'll probably have to pay for equipment and access, watch advertisements, and submit to obedience zaps from major corporations as well.

    But it'll be worth it to keep watching "Two and a Half Men." #television
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    That's what happens when I outsource my editing to the Gainesville Sun. Ya got me, Mohaski! Sorry for the double post, too.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    Did that 1945 pamphlet ask the question "How much bukkake footage is too much bukkake footage?"? #television
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/13/09

    In reply to Everything Bad About the Web Was Once Said About Television
    The same stuff was said about radio before that, and the movies before that. I'm sure Guttenberg had to put up with naysayers who mourned the loss of illuminated manuscripts. #television
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    11/13/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Well, until you've seen "Police Academy 3: Back in Training" in illuminated manuscript, you haven't really seen it, so I'd have to agree with the naysayers on that one.

    Or did you mean Gutenberg?

    /pedantry #television
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/13/09

    @Mohaski: That's what happens when I outsource my editing to the Gainesville Sun. Ya got me, Mohaski! #television
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/13/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: There was a big overthrow of the old order: Until the printing press, pretty much only the priests and monks had the Bible, and only they were in charge of reading it. #television
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    11/13/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: Makes me rethink the virtues of movable type: It put the Bible in the hands of the radical right. Reading should be for the elites! #television
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/13/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Exactly so. Like us. #television
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    11/13/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: No, like me. #television
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/13/09

    @HurtsSoGood: Yes, dear, of course. #television
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    Image of HurtsSoGood HurtsSoGood
    11/14/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: Uh. yeah. Like her. That's it.

    Please don't hurt me, honey. #television
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    Image of son of spam son of spam
    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    George Pataki is alive and well and living in Rupert Murdoch's basement. #newscorp
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    Image of Arken Arken
    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    News Corp. has a core audience that cares about it. That core audience is mostly older people who are less tech-savvy in the first place and thus less likely to use Google anyway. Furthermore, it's not like there aren't literally thousands of other media sources with the exact same information as News Corp. sources, often with far less of a bias.

    I disagree about the revenue thing. This is all about Rupert Murdoch's quest against fair use. He's pretty much said as much. See here: [www.techdirt.com]

    Why he is so against fair use, I'm not sure, since without it, his newspapers and TV networks could literally not do their jobs. #newscorp
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/13/09

    @Arken: Huh?

    Newscorp is one of the largest content providers and content deliverers (SkyTV, etc.) in the entire world.

    I'm not sure NewsCorp has a "core audience" per se. They supply cable TV to most of China ferchrissakes.

    Try to separate their newspaper content (a relatively small piece of the pie), from the other stuff. The company really is big enough to buy the government of a large country. #newscorp
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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    When a consumer enters a query into Google (and just about any other search engine), they can get hundreds of results. If a News Corp site isn't part of the search result, consumers aren't going to switch to Bing. They're just going to click the most relevant search result that's still there, and 90 percent of the time that's going to be just as fine and dandy for the consumer as it would have been otherwise. Google's probably just laughing at this whole thing. Or am I missing something here? #newscorp
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    Image of Magister Magister
    11/13/09

    @DennyCrane: One or the other of the linked pieces mention the old workaround, where non-WSJ subscribers get just the first couple of paragraphs from an article via the WSJ site, but they get the whole thing, if they go through Google.

    I've never actually looked at the mechanics of this anomaly, but since the WSJ has a paywall, if the Google trick is unauthorized, I wonder why they don't plug the leak because one assumes it is costing them money.
    ---

    Otherwise, I like how the hint from the AP that Microsoft may be willing to favor the story originator in search results, something important to some members of the media results in several comments about the AP being antiquated and how Google could put them out of business, if they wanted.
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    11/13/09

    @DennyCrane: Nope, you're not missing anything. This is just another example of executives not liking the terms that the big distributor gives them, and therefore signing a contract with the little new guy (which in this case, at least, is the role MS is playing), even though the little new guy has less than 1/10 the reach. It happens all the time, both on the internet and off it. And it almost never works out.

    This is kind of like a record label saying they're dropping iTunes because Apple takes too much of the profits, and instead they're going to distribute all their stuff through eMusic. #newscorp
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    10/23/09

    In reply to Marissa Mayer, Temptress of Google
    The Laugh is back! #marissamayer
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    Image of jackbarber jackbarber
    10/22/09

    In reply to Marissa Mayer, Temptress of Google
    This is the first time I've ever been on Marissa Mayer's side about anything. And I share her flabbergastery.

    I'd read about this earlier today and thought nothing of it.

    But watching the vid Thomson is clearly making a conscious sexual / sexist entendre and the overall effect is downright creepy.

    What a terrible lackey loser he is. Go back to Britain and edit your shitty right-wing rag. He probably has rupert's balls in his mouth right now.

    p.s. All these MSM f'ers from Niesenholtz to Spanfellow to this dbag are so ridiculously disingenuous, as anyone with half a brain knows. All of their arguments are specious. If you don't like what Google's doing turn it off and lose 20-50% of your traffic.

    Ok I'm done now. #marissamayer
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    Image of joeynhes joeynhes
    10/23/09

    @jackbarber: I think his point has merit and just because she happens to be female (I am too) you're alleging his criticism is sexist. Also, know the Thomson family and FYI he is lovely, brilliant and a happy family man.
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    Image of therealmusashi therealmusashi
    10/24/09

    @jackbarber: I like how you accuse him of making a sexual / sexist entendre, and in the same breath say he's got someone's balls in his mouth.

    Well done. #marissamayer
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    10/27/09

    @joeynhes: Ok I'm sorry I said Thomson has Rupe's balls in his mouth. That was unfair!

    His point however has zero merit, so I can't follow you there..

    This is all empirical:

    If he doesn't like what Google is doing, he can easily block Goog's crawler (or whatever you call it) from any and all News Corp content.

    Problem is, Google drives News Corp a shitload (excuse my language!) of traffic, therefore driving very material page views and revenue.

    Hence my problem with Thomson's, Spanfeeler's and all those other old media execs disingenuous carping about Google.

    They're basically -- and IMO pathetically -- trying to make enough nuisance so Google pays them something they shouldn't by rights have to pay them to make them shut up and fade back into the woodwork.

    Google is correctly ignoring them and doing nothing. #marissamayer
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    10/27/09

    @therealmusashi: I can't tell if you're offended but if so I also apologize to you for saying Thomson has Rupie's balls in his mouth. #marissamayer
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    10/22/09

    In reply to Marissa Mayer, Temptress of Google
    Looks like the source and quote use the same text size to me. Did Google change that already? #marissamayer
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