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    Image of goetz goetz
    10/08/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    Det. Russert's cousin from Homicide is dead!?
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    Image of Baroness Baroness
    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    I'm just glad they have that smirking chimp David Gregory in his chair, so I know the Republic is safe.

    Bwahaha. Fuck Gregory. Shame about the ratings. Has there been time enough past to say Tim Russert was a hack and a courtesan of the powerful, without a single original thought as he introduced endless guests telling us how we needed to brutalize the people of Iraq without mercy or human decency? Because of fake imaginary weapons?

    Yes, it's time enough. Fuck Tim Russert, salesman for the Iraq war. Too bad there's a line of people waiting to replace him. Talking the hawkish tawk on behalf of the military-industrial complex. Genial spokesperson for blasting the fuck out of some other foreign country.

    Oh, but apparently he was a jolly fellow when he wasn't inviting people on camera to advocate a disastrous war. Ho-ho, Tim was one them, that tiny Beltway crowd with their entitlement and heads firmly up their own asses.
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    Image of Phyllis Nefler Phyllis Nefler
    10/09/09

    @Baroness: I must admit I've not once watched Gregory on MTP (my Sunday mornings are otherwise occupied) but I feel that these recaps distill his essence quite nicely.
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    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    The exhibit would be perfect if Carville and Matalin were sitting in the mock-office, as if they were waiting for Big Tim to show up. To pass the time, they could bicker in their campy way over some nonsense.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    10/07/09

    @MrInBetween: lovely, yes. with pat buchanan denying the holocaust, bill o'reilly denying the loofah and rush limbaugh denying the drug addiction and the sex trips.
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    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    tv news: crap squared
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    10/07/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: also: how to be a corporate ass kissing toadying shill 101
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    Sorry, but I just don't get the ALL-CAPS hostility towards Russert, just like I didn't get it when it was directed towards Rather. I mean, its a fucking display at the Newseum. He's not getting his own wing at the Smithsonian. Calm down.
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    10/07/09

    @Atilla the Bun: It's not directed so much at Russert as it is the failed state of today's news media. The idea that Russert is the best we have to offer against the news giants of the past generation is more than slightly disappointing. It's nothing personal against Russert, but he just wasn't that good of a newsman.
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    10/07/09

    @anonymousryan: It seems pretty directed at Russert to me--that he "wasn't that good of a newsman." Which is fine, but the tone still seemed rather over the top and harsh. It's kind of like beating up on Santa Claus.
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    10/07/09

    @Atilla the Bun: For some of us the problem last year had nothing to do with Russert and everything to do with the reaction at NBC and MSNBC, where his surprise passing was treated as the end of the world as we know it. Big time journalists were unable to separate the personal and the professional and viewers across both platforms were treated to nearly all-Russert, all the time beatification. Now? I don't really care what the Newseum does so long as it keeps those Front Pages available onlline.
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    10/07/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: "and everything to do with the reaction at NBC and MSNBC, where his surprise passing was treated as the end of the world as we know it."

    Well, you have you seen David Gregory host, right? If I was an NBC suit, I'd have been shitting bricks too.
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    Image of SinisterRouge SinisterRouge
    10/07/09

    @Atilla the Bun: Santa Claus brings gifts to children.

    Tim Russert was a disservice to the news industry. Jack Welch and his Irish-cabal at NBC are notoriously bad at actual news, Russert included.

    He was a terrible newsman who never actually did any good reporting and served to misinform the public under the guise of being a "nice guy." He may have been a nice man in person, but he was indeed a terrible "newsman." Hence, the tone of the post.

    Next thing you know, Olbermann will close his show with Morrow's signature line.
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    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    THE LATE TIM RUSSERT: You've expressed unease with my posthumous deification.

    Yet you wrote this on October 7, 2009:

    "He was a ... a watchdog ... an institution ... a towering genius."

    Is there not an inconsistency here?

    PS. - GO BULLS!
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    10/07/09

    In reply to The Beatification of St. Russert of Buffalo
    I used to work for the Newseum. Tim Russert was on their board before he passed. He was a highly respected board member and liked a lot there, so I'm not surprised that they received some of his things (now the merits of putting up his office as is. . .).
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    10/07/09

    @hfree: I should add that folks were really, really excited to get that dry-erase board. It was like it was the holy grail or something.
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    08/07/09

    In reply to Behold the Power of Alan Greenspan
    I watch This Week EVERY WEEK - if only because George Stephanopoulos is still as cute as he was in The War Room.
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    Image of ChillbearLatrigue ChillbearLatrigue
    08/07/09

    In reply to Behold the Power of Alan Greenspan
    Greenspan actually needs to shut up. He is a smart man, but people act as though he is still the Fed Chairman. The big difference is that when he was the Fed Chairman he was being advised by a hundred different economists. Although he is still able to make an informed opinion about the economy, asking him about the economic climate now is like bringing your battle plans to Napoleon at the Isle of Wight and asking him how to win your war. It wouldn't be a problem if people could take what Greenspan says with a grain of salt. He is a smart man, but driving the economy is no longer his full time job.
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    08/07/09

    In reply to Behold the Power of Alan Greenspan
    Oh no, it's back! Blagomania! ...!
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Old Man Lamely Defends the Goldbricking Defeatist He Coronated
    as much as I disagree with their agenda, I can not help but to admire the republican party's ability to effectively disseminate their message no matter how obviously manufactured and it may be. "She didn't quit! She changed priorities!" And in no time at all, every politician/talk show host will say it and miraculously, the definition of resigned is the opposite of what it has meant for centuries.



    democrats talk shit all the time too, but they can never collectively get their story straight. Oh, if only air america hadn't crumbled into dust.
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    07/13/09

    In reply to Old Man Lamely Defends the Goldbricking Defeatist He Coronated
    Cajun, your paragraph #3 will be the historical legacy. Palin is an opportunist. She tried to ride the coat tails of an American Hero and she killed his dream. No one in her party wants to admit a misjudgment. So be it. But for anyone to keep defending her, why why why! She is a parasite. Conservatives - keep looking. There have got to be some big thinkers out there. She isn't one of them. She is a cul-de-sac of hope.
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    Edited by Pinekatz at 07/13/09 12:31 AM Pinekatz was starred Pinekatz was unstarred
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    07/13/09

    @Pinekatz: AND, she's a quitter. Oy. She either quit because it was hard or she quit for personal gain. Either way, it was terrible. I'd rather see someone I disagree with try hard to do what they believe is right in our American political world than quit when it gets hard. I can't even do that. To quit for money? That's unthinkable.


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    Edited by Pinekatz at 07/13/09 12:36 AM Pinekatz was starred Pinekatz was unstarred
    Image of kimsama kimsama
    07/13/09

    @Pinekatz: Good point -- how many republicans are really willing to have her as a running mate after seeing how decisively she aided in McCain's destruction? I mean, I know that the GOP won't publicly say anything doubting her, but how seriously does anyone think she'll be 2nd on the top ticket? Or at the top of a ticket?



    I have the feeling that the GOP keeps her around for the same reason they keep Limbaugh -- it riles up the base. The base that probably accepts her byzantine reasons for stepping down as pure gospel. But I can't see the actual leaders of the GOP (ahem, assuming there are any, at this point) seeing her move as anything but bizarre and erratic, and I don't think they'll be taking the chance again of having her on their top ticket.



    But, again, that's assuming there's actually someone at the top orchestrating all the Orwellian double-speak. Maybe no one's driving the cart anymore, and the horses are just running how they've been trained.
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    Edited by kimsama at 07/13/09 9:20 AM kimsama was starred kimsama was unstarred
    Image of edosan edosan
    07/13/09

    @Pinekatz: Hey, McCain quit his campaign for a while to fix the economy.



    Glad that worked out for him.
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    07/14/09

    @edosan: and the economy...
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    Image of Dagrolord Dagrolord
    07/13/09

    In reply to Old Man Lamely Defends the Goldbricking Defeatist He Coronated
    I was certain that the cloud to the silver lining of Sarah Palin's announcement that she was resigning as Alaska's governor would be John McCain face time during the inevitable interviews as to the McCain take on the resignation of the Gubernatorial Goober.



    Even so, I'd much rather John McCain be obliviously defending his running mate choice than anywhere near the button as President. Anybody remember that this swaggering buffoon actually led Obama in the RCP national average polls going into mid-September 2008?
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    07/13/09

    @Dagrolord: That was just the post-convention bounce, though.



    There is no silver lining. Sarah Palin is not leaving politics -- which actually confuses me, because I thought one of the points teased out of her incoherent speech was that she was leaving politics. Ah, it must be that mean-ol' media lying to me again.



    BTW, this is an entertaining read. Lock up your pets when Sarah's around, folks, and not because she'll shoot them from the air, either!
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    07/13/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Eh, she may try to re-enter politics, but she's hamstrung herself. If there had been any possibility of her being taken seriously as a national candidate in the future, it's gone now.



    I'm adoring this inability to course correct on the part of Republicans. They're waist deep in the Big Muddy, and the big fools keep pushing on.
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    07/13/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Heh. The term "word salad" is indeed a clinical term and is often applied to people in the earliest stages of a stroke. I can see why Palin is so paranoid of bloggers, et.al. It probably does cause a "stroke" of sorts to have these folks air her dirty laundry so abundantly, filled with big words and mashups, lacking in sports analogies.
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    Image of ChillbearLatrigue ChillbearLatrigue
    07/12/09

    In reply to Old Man Lamely Defends the Goldbricking Defeatist He Coronated
    I hate to make this point. As much as I support the Republican agenda and loathe the social engineering that I currently see occurring, this confirms for me that the Republicans chose an embarrassingly weak ticket. Admit that you made a mistake, Senator McCain.
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    07/13/09

    @ChillbearLatrigue: Absolutely. There is no shame in admitting a mistake. However, there is plenty in continuing to deny something so blatantly obvious.
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    07/12/09

    In reply to Old Man Lamely Defends the Goldbricking Defeatist He Coronated
    "historical legacy looked upon with almost universal esteem by future generations, destroyed by one horrendously God-awful decision."



    hm.. I dunno, I think there was a lot more shit about him beyond his Palin pick that made his chances an uphill battle. Him being an olde, Bush royally fucking up the image of the Republican party, and the general awesomeness that was Obama are all pretty campaign-crumbling contributors.
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    07/12/09

    @lobstr: Yah, McCain's legacy was I think derailed back in 2000 when Karl Rove, W. Bush, etc. screwed him over during his first bid for the Republican nomination.
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    Image of The Cajun Boy The Cajun Boy
    07/12/09

    @lobstr: I see your point, and I knew this assertion would be challenged by some commenters. Let me elaborate further...Before he ran for president in 2008, McCain had successfully washed away some of the stains that had been embedded into the tapestry of his career. He was liked and respected by people on both sides of the aisle. Perhaps most importantly, the press, the very people who write history, LOVED him. I really think he shot that all to shit with Palin and doesn't have enough time left to make up for it, if that's even possible. So there. Just my worthless point of view.
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    Image of The Cajun Boy The Cajun Boy
    07/12/09

    @dontread: Yeah but that wasn't his doing and all the shit they threw at him didn't stick over the long haul, even though it did stick long enough to derail him back then.
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    07/12/09

    @The Cajun Boy: I think part of the reason he was so well-liked in the press was his "maverick" status - going against the Bush administration on items such as campaign finance, and being able to tell it like it is to a quote-hungry press corps. I think that was shot to hell during the campaign before he even picked Palin, as he essentially co-opted the Bush policy handbook because he so badly wanted GOP support in the 2008 election (a stance which eventually led TO the Palin pick).



    I guess what I'm trying to say is it wasn't the Palin pick itself that doomed him, it was his wholesale drinking of the Bill Kristol Kool-Aid that led to the pick that doomed him.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    07/13/09

    @The Cajun Boy: what u said. exactly. josh marshall at talkingpointsmemo.com was ruthless and correct in talking about how much the old mainstream press hacks loved mccain and his bbq shindigs; even wonkette traded her integrity for a mess of wings (she kind of got it back). and then mccain revealed more and more of his pettyness, meanness, total lack of a clue with each passing day of the campaign and then made it grandly undeniable to all when he picked his running mate. there was a deep allegory in there on his character: the instability, grandiosity, and also on his intellect: weak weak weak. a spoiled little boy wanting his next toy.
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    07/13/09

    @DennyCrane: a mavericjy mavericky maverick maverick. except it was mostly smoke and lies. he called himself one, and the press quoted him calling himself one, and that was about all there was to it. let's not forget the keating five, when he pretty much led the bamboozling and the lying and the stealing and the coverup



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five



    he U.S. Savings and Loan crisis of the 1980s and early 1990s was the failure of 747 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States. The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.[1] The accompanying slowdown in the finance industry and the real estate market may have been a contributing cause of the 1990-1991 economic recession. Between 1986 and 1991, the number of new homes constructed per year dropped from 1.8 million to 1 million, the lowest rate since World War II.[2]



    The Keating Five scandal was prompted by the activities of one particular savings and loan: Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, California. Lincoln's chairman was Charles Keating, who ultimately served five years in prison for his corrupt mismanagement of Lincoln.[3] In the four years after Keating's American Continental Corporation (ACC) had purchased Lincoln in 1984, Lincoln's assets had increased from $1.1 billion to $5.5 billion.[4] Such savings and loan associations had been deregulated in the early 1980s, allowing them to make highly risky investments with their depositors' money. Keating and other savings and loan operators took advantage of this deregulation.[4][5] Savings and loans established connections to many members of Congress, by supplying them with needed funds for campaigns through legal donations.[5] Lincoln's particular investments took the form of buying land, taking equity positions in real estate development projects, and buying high-yield junk bonds.[6

    .... On April 9, 1987, a two-hour meeting[4] with three members of the FHLBB San Francisco branch was held, again in DeConcini's office, to discuss the government's investigation of Lincoln.[7][11] Present were Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, McCain, and additionally Riegle.[7] The regulators felt that the meeting was very unusual and that they were being pressured by a united front, as the senators presented their reasons for having the meeting.[7] DeConcini began the meeting by saying, "We wanted to meet with you because we have determined that potential actions of yours could injure a constituent."[13] McCain said, "One of our jobs as elected officials is to help constituents in a proper fashion. ACC [American Continental Corporation] is a big employer and important to the local economy. I wouldn't want any special favors for them.... I don't want any part of our conversation to be improper." Glenn said, "To be blunt, you should charge them or get off their backs," while DeConcini said, "What's wrong with this if they're willing to clean up their act? ... It's very unusual for us to have a company that could be put out of business by its regulators."[7] The regulators then revealed that Lincoln was under criminal investigation on a variety of serious charges, at which point McCain severed all relations with Keating.[7]
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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    07/13/09

    @The Cajun Boy: Yes, agree. Plus this last time he really chose to compromise his beliefs rather than being the victim of an outside smear.



    By the way, I don't think I've yet mentioned that it's a pleasure to see you back. I know you've been back for a few weeks now, but it's nice to see Olde Gawker crew around again.

    (Which is not meant as a slight to the new bunch, btw)
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    07/13/09

    @VoxPopuli: I always read Cajun Boy, he my favourite!
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    07/13/09

    @VoxPopuli: @dontread: Awww, YOU GUYS!!!
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    07/13/09

    @The Cajun Boy: In other news, the new Gawker commenting system favors loose flattery. Hopefully, this will not ruin our beloved Acadian Lad, the Noblest and Deftest of Contributing Editors, and one of the most handsome and intelligent adventurers to ever use a keyboard and mouse.
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    07/13/09

    @The Cajun Boy: Naw, you right about all that -- but while some of the neutral press LOVED McCain, most of the press JIZZED WATER-TANKS-FULL-of-IRIDESCENT-ECSTASY for Obama. Head-to-head despite the VP pick, it was to be no fucking contest.



    Plus, I think people started to tire of the standard out-of-touch Olde sittin' there with his typewriter and slide-rule running a country full of people who use electronic communication just to say "good morning" to their spouses :[]
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