I liked Andrews' piece because it made me feel better about my own life. Now that his life is obviously even worse, I feel even better. As far as I'm concerned, this is win-win. FOR ME.
Andrews seems to be out of touch with reality when he says, "It is hard to believe that anybody would accuse me of trying to airbrush a story..."
And Andrews not credible when he says he "wasn't allowed" to use his 401K: one can take an early distribution and pay a penalty (10% federal, plus a state penalty that's 2.5% here in CA), and plenty of people do exactly that to survive and avoid bankruptcy.
The NY Times has had an unfortunate relationship with the truth in some famous instances lately, and you've got to wonder whether Andrews is yet another sign of terrible management at that paper.
Lies of omission. That's the core right there for the Times and every other paper falling apart right now for good reason. The reporter is not an exception. He's standard issue.
I read somewhere that some of the bankruptcies taken by Wifey smacked of "strategic debt management". If so, I'd be really interested to read those sorts of stories in his book!
The parts of the Mag excerpt that were most eye-opening were those describing his mortgage officer's creativity in finding and exploiting loopholes in the system. This won't work? No worries! We'll move down the list to Plan X. And so on. It really captures the insanity and sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-prime-iness of everything during the era. Adding his wife's bankruptcies to the mix would have shined an even harsher light on the sort of people who were being approved for half million dollar loans.
So would it have been so hard and so destructive to his case to weave in at least a token mention of his wife's troubles? Even if he had to cloak it in all sorts of woe-is-her fluff, that'd still be better than a blanket omission. And I'm sure plenty of us would still be able to relate. This is America. Who doesn't have a fuckface ex-husband bankrupting them?
Edmund Andrews is up to his neck in shit and knows it. There is NO FUCKING WAY he can claim his wife's TWO bankrupticies were not pertinent to a story - wait, a goddam book - about his family's financial failures. He dragged her onstage, not us. He's the one telling us that she's "regal," and "eclectic" (whatever that means). To then turn around when he's 'busted' (oh irony, love that title) and claim that her financial shenanigans have nothing to do with the family's parlous circumstances is beyond satire. And he damn well knows it.
That gurgling sound is his journalistic credibility going down the crapper, forever.
His publisher might want to exam the contract Andrews signed, too. Especially the bit about him undertaking to ensure that all relevant factual material is disclosed before publication, and not leaving the publisher with a book that nobody wants to buy because it distorts the truth through omission.
Even with some allowance for the fact that this is the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend, this is post is embarassingly poorly written.
Let's start with just a sampling of the clear cut spelling and grammatical errors:
* "Since Patty was reproting them on their personal tax returns . . ."
* "moving the spin-control enguine"
* "old debts . . . is still an issue when you're applying for a home loan"
* "before said credibility . . . become further affected."
Then we move on to the general clunkiness of the prose. Stuff like:
* "Bankruptcy Number One came from an ex-husband who's apparently far sketchier than Andrews, five years previous to their marriage."
* "And now, without reading or knowing the book, it's completely evident that this omission changes the context of the story at large."
* "All parties involved might find it in their best interests to shut Andrews up and start moving the spin-control enguine before said credibility (and, thus: sales) - which, right now, sounds something like this - become further affected."
Wow, that prose goes down about as smoothly as a thumbtack milkshake. A little advice: This article should be about half the length it is now and the author should have spent about twice as much time on it before hitting post.
I think we need to recognize that a lot of people aren't very competent in the finances department, and structure our regulations accordingly. I happen to be pretty good at personal finance, and I consider this to be pure luck. My parents were nice people, but couldn't handle money without screwing it up.
It would also help if we didn't elect financial incompetents (I'd taking about you, Bush) to high office. Not that I'm bitter.
@StarkRavingMan: I'm not convinced that this whole "crisis" wasn't a manufactured scam to rip off the government, engineered by people within the government. I mean, it was pretty obvious we were headed for disaster years ago, and nothing was done about the scammer "professionals" who were intentionally facilitating bad debt so that they could profit off of its failure. The only conclusion I can make is that the Bush Administration was so monumentally incompetent that they were completely asleep at the switch, or that they were hoping exactly this would happen (to help their banker cronies scam the Treasury and sink the next President's agenda).
Andrews and his wife were on McNeil/Lehrer last night, and they said nothing about his wife's bankruptcies. He seemed like a pretty pathetic guy -- exactly the sort who populate newspapers these days -- trying to buy the love of his wife on credit.
They talked to the mortgage broker, who took no responsibility whatsoever despite Andrews completely omitting his income and debt data on his loan application. The lenders only purpose for existence is to find creditworthy borrowers -- when they don't do their f-ing job, they're guilty of defrauding their sources of funding, in this case the buyers of mortgage-backed securities. Mortgage brokers should be forced to pay back the commissions they collected.
I think the point of the NY Times Mag story was to tell us that even people with great jobs and good incomes can make mistakes with their finances. I appreciated this because it helps shift some the blame off of lower income individuals who got sucked into the credit debt and jumbo mortgage loan mess, and who many are trying to make the face of the economic crisis.
@koniki: I agree. It's true that arrogance, entitlement, and stupidity transcend class lines. But haven't Madoff and all of the hedgies that were just handing him piles of cash underscored that far better than a story like this?
At the end of the day, despite whatever airs he puts on about his job, he's a deadbeat that is complaining about his child support while living it up in a fancy home with a new woman. Being selfishly in love isn't virtuous. It's not a new story.
05/25/09
05/24/09
And Andrews not credible when he says he "wasn't allowed" to use his 401K: one can take an early distribution and pay a penalty (10% federal, plus a state penalty that's 2.5% here in CA), and plenty of people do exactly that to survive and avoid bankruptcy.
The NY Times has had an unfortunate relationship with the truth in some famous instances lately, and you've got to wonder whether Andrews is yet another sign of terrible management at that paper.
05/24/09
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The parts of the Mag excerpt that were most eye-opening were those describing his mortgage officer's creativity in finding and exploiting loopholes in the system. This won't work? No worries! We'll move down the list to Plan X. And so on. It really captures the insanity and sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-prime-iness of everything during the era. Adding his wife's bankruptcies to the mix would have shined an even harsher light on the sort of people who were being approved for half million dollar loans.
So would it have been so hard and so destructive to his case to weave in at least a token mention of his wife's troubles? Even if he had to cloak it in all sorts of woe-is-her fluff, that'd still be better than a blanket omission. And I'm sure plenty of us would still be able to relate. This is America. Who doesn't have a fuckface ex-husband bankrupting them?
05/23/09
That gurgling sound is his journalistic credibility going down the crapper, forever.
His publisher might want to exam the contract Andrews signed, too. Especially the bit about him undertaking to ensure that all relevant factual material is disclosed before publication, and not leaving the publisher with a book that nobody wants to buy because it distorts the truth through omission.
05/23/09
Totally agree on his publisher seeking recourse.
05/23/09
Let's start with just a sampling of the clear cut spelling and grammatical errors:
* "Since Patty was reproting them on their personal tax returns . . ."
* "moving the spin-control enguine"
* "old debts . . . is still an issue when you're applying for a home loan"
* "before said credibility . . . become further affected."
Then we move on to the general clunkiness of the prose. Stuff like:
* "Bankruptcy Number One came from an ex-husband who's apparently far sketchier than Andrews, five years previous to their marriage."
* "And now, without reading or knowing the book, it's completely evident that this omission changes the context of the story at large."
* "All parties involved might find it in their best interests to shut Andrews up and start moving the spin-control enguine before said credibility (and, thus: sales) - which, right now, sounds something like this - become further affected."
Wow, that prose goes down about as smoothly as a thumbtack milkshake. A little advice: This article should be about half the length it is now and the author should have spent about twice as much time on it before hitting post.
K. Thx. Bye.
05/23/09
05/23/09
And, Thanksgiving dinner with the family must be fun.
05/22/09
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05/22/09
It would also help if we didn't elect financial incompetents (I'd taking about you, Bush) to high office. Not that I'm bitter.
05/22/09
05/22/09
They talked to the mortgage broker, who took no responsibility whatsoever despite Andrews completely omitting his income and debt data on his loan application. The lenders only purpose for existence is to find creditworthy borrowers -- when they don't do their f-ing job, they're guilty of defrauding their sources of funding, in this case the buyers of mortgage-backed securities. Mortgage brokers should be forced to pay back the commissions they collected.
05/22/09
05/22/09
At the end of the day, despite whatever airs he puts on about his job, he's a deadbeat that is complaining about his child support while living it up in a fancy home with a new woman. Being selfishly in love isn't virtuous. It's not a new story.
05/22/09
Being selfishly in love with a spendthrift golddigger short on options isn't virtuous. It's not a new story.
There.