"After which he must have sat staring blankly at his forensic pathology degree in the semi-dark as he felt a shade drop around all of his previous accomplishments."
This is a great sentence! And a good post overall Adrian Chen! #sad
When we buried my grandmother (at the age of 91), her only living friend was too far gone to make it to the graveside. The burial party totaled five: her surviving son, her daughter, her daughter's GF, my mother (a daughter-in-law), and me. That was a terribly lonely graveside. #sad
@Cynical Media Bitch: And somehow, having a much larger crowd would have been better for your grandmother how? She lived to a wonderful old age. I hope you helped her enjoy her later years. #sad
@JudyPaceFace: All I'm saying is that in my view, the only thing that sucks more than being the last one standing is being the last one breathing.
If it matters, I'm told that my cousins who lived in the area were somewhat of a comfort to her, but that Grandmother H. had pretty much checked out for her last few years. My dad's family wasn't terribly close to begin with, and I was 2400 miles away, so there wasn't a lot that I could do. #sad
@Cynical Media Bitch: It's the juxtaposition of Balsitis' quote against the editorialized transcription of the anonymous "church employee" quote that chiefly comes across as mockery to me.
Furthermore, the overall tone of the post is snarky. Snark is fine and good in the correct circumstances--we're on Gawker--but we're talking about innocent, hitherto anonymous people who didn't actively seek fame or notoriety. They have just had a death in the family. It seems obscene to drag their names in the mud if all you're going to do is make fun of them. #sad
@snugbug: Well, I agree with you that these people weren't seeking fame, notoriety, or whatever, but I would say the mockery's being dispensed kind of evenhandedly. I don't see "names being dragged in the mud," I see unnamed relations failing to show up because of a senseless fear.
I'm not sure who expects 400 people to show up at a funeral service, unless a cop, firefighter or major community figure is being sent off. In my experience, I would say that 65 is a pretty good turnout. #sad
@snugbug: I agree, and I'm hearting you for your humane defense of the people in this story and your indictment of pointless snark from "fly-by-night writers" trying to make their mark. I don't think, however, that the family was a target here; at least, not until we snark-sniping commenters got our crack at them. I think this piece just suffers from the shaky writing of a first-time poster. #sad
Actually the H1N1 virus is amazingly transmissible, and being around the family of someone who had the H1N1 virus and presumably visited is a pretty good way to catch it. My job right now is in media with a large Canadian Health organization, and the news up here is pretty severe. It's never "1 new case in saskatoon" but is "26 new cases reported in saskatoon", followed of course by "saskatoon sucks". #sad
@Pope John Peeps II: Like all viruses, it's an obligate biotroph (meaning, it needs a living host to survive) and can only survive in a "dormant" encapsulated form for at most 24 hours outside of a living host. Flu is mostly transmitted by aerosol spray from coughing and sneezing or direct contact with infested bodily fluids (like shaking someone's hand after they have sneezed on it). The woman passed away a lot longer ago than that - no reason to fear.
@Pope John Peeps II: Originally they told those of us in healthcare to stay away from the hospital for 7 days from the onset of symptoms if we were diagnosed with the H1N1 virus. I was also required to document my temperature for 7 days after my child came down with it. Then it was lowered to "24 hours fever free", like all other facilities, including the public schools. Now they're all like... "OOPS, you're shedding that virus a lot longer than we thought!" #sad
@saya: But family meets family, people meet people and the incubation cycle starts over every time someone new is infected. It's not like anyone's being crazy by saying that people get infected more when they're around larger groups. #sad
@Pope John Peeps II: My understanding is that the only "amazing" part is that people are shedding virus for a few days longer than usual. After a week, it seems like things are all clear. #sad
@pollyannacowgirl: It's no surprise to me that this is happening in West Michigan, which is trying desperately to become a center for health care, but is still trying to reconcile science with Calvinism.
Also, Adrian gets extra points for using "Michiganders" and not the bastardized formation "Michiganians." #sad
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Ooh! I thought the same thing when I read 'Michiganders', though I believe that if Adrian wanted to score the most points, he would have used 'trolls', as this is a story about people from downstate. Not that I think of that every time I meet someone from downstate (I totally do).
@Cynical Media Bitch: IIRC, it was in a post about Michigan's economy, and I commented that West Michigan/the GR Metro Area was doing better than the rest of the state because of its focus on health care and not-as-strong ties to the auto industry. Then, you (if it was you) made a comment about Herman Miller, Steelcase, etc. At any rate, I agree with you re: the lingering desire for people in West MI to reconcile science with Calvinism, and also that it's ironic when considering the growth of the medical industry in GR. Did you see the story from a couple of days ago about how Hope College (in Holland) invited Lance Black to speak in its screenwriting class, but barred him from a campus discussion on sexuality (that he didn't even ask to be a party of) because of his "divisive" views, AKA ~gay agenda~ and whatnot? I was livid. #sad
@GeraldineHyperion: The only people who can get away with using "trolls" to refer to inhabitants of the Lower Peninsula are Yoopers.
Also, there's no such place as "downstate" in Michigan. There's civilization (everything south of a line running from Muskegon through Midland), The Thumb, "Up North" (the top half of the Mitten) and "Da U.P." #sad
@Adrian Chen: A-Squared is a nice place, I almost went there myself (U of M was my safety school). My youngest brother went there for his underclass years, but he went on Junior Year Abroad to UC-Irvine and never came back. #sad
@mattchew03: Wow, I am from Southwest Michigan and I had no idea that Calvin was more than a little nut-job compound in Grand Rapids. In fact, I always thought that the GR area was slightly more liberal than the otherwise super hardcore conservative western side of the state. #sad
And you're right -- GR is a bit more liberal than some of the other areas in West MI -- but the entire area is still quite conservative.
It was Hope College in Holland, actually, that is dealing with the controversy re: Lance Black, but Calvin College is mentioned in the article about it, too:
Basically, it mentions that the Calvin faculty voted earlier this month to recommend that the Board of Trustees withdraw a memo that was issued to professors and instructed them not to advocate for any homosexual issues -- at least they got it right the second time? #sad
@mattchew03: I'm from the St. Joseph area. What about you? Actually, the fact that they invited Black is already leaps and bounds above what I am used to down here. We are the proud people who hosted Bush's first major speech after he left office and have had enough racial issues to really earn our nickname "St. Johannesburg". #sad
@IpsoFacto: St. Joe is beautiful. I'm from Grand Haven (10 miles or so north of Holland). And re: Black, I'm sure the fact that he's currently here filming his movie had more to do with the invitation than Hope's regard for him or his work/activism. I thought maybe I overreacted a bit to the story, as I'm sort of friends with him, but -- ultimately -- I think anyone with even a rudimentary sense of understanding or compassion would find Hope's actions to be quite reprehensible. #sad
@IpsoFacto: There's at least one batch of Lutherans on the east side of GR that is still fighting the Thirty Years' War. One of my cousins (we're all Catholic) married a woman from this church, and on some major occasion where the immediate family was expected to attend (I think it was a baptism), the minister devoted the sermon to a diatribe on how awful the Church of Rome was, and so on.
You just don't hear that kind of smack being talked during a homily at a Catholic church, period. All I can assume is that there are still plenty of Protestants in GR who believe that the Peace of Westphalia was a compromise with the devil. #sad
@Adrian Chen: Just an FYI, U of M is about 130 miles east of Grand Rapids, so attendance there would tell you nothing about the people of West Michigan #sad
@Cynical Media Bitch: Well hey, we've got some people here to whom I could not only say I grew up near Bay City, but who might even know "Essexville."
Anyway, on topic - I'm really distressed by how the government is handling the flu health issue. Even while we're being scared out of our minds about it, my county health dept. in suburban Detroit ran out of the seasonal flu vaccine in early October.
The excuse offered? The Fed govt. didn't send enough because it's focusing on the H1N1 vaccine. Which we also don't have anywhere near enough of. I'm not optimistic I'm ever going to be able to get the latter shot. (Even though I spend a lot of time around young adults, one of the hardest hit populations.)
Meanwhile, tho' the government agencies don't have any seasonal vaccines, I can go to local retail pharmacies to get a shot there - for a higher cost. What's wrong with this pic? #sad
@NorthernLite: I heard the Dukes were having a good season this year, congratulations.
Back to topic: the systemic failure to manufacture enough vaccine is just another drawback of our only-for-profit health care system. We don't have to rely on growing the stuff in chicken eggs the way we did ten or twenty years ago, but to do anything that would come off the production line more quickly isn't as profitable.
So, we're rationing flu vaccine again. I'm happy to forgo my shots so that people like you who could really use them can get them. Unfortunately, I can't send them via FedEx from SF to Detroit. #sad
@Cynical Media Bitch: If you are from the U.P., 'downstate' refers to everything south of the Mackinac, including the area that is hilariously referred to as 'up north'. Way to forget about your condolence prize from that little war with Ohio, guys.
The same thing happen during the early days of AIDS!! Remember? Funeral homes refused to embalm; cemetaries refused to allow burial. Also, remember how that little boy who got AIDS from tainted blood suffered when people found out and he couldn't go to school?
This hysteria happens everytime a new disease or whatever comes along. There are a lot of ignorant people out there but even the intelligent ones tend to think twice!! #sad
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This is a great sentence! And a good post overall Adrian Chen! #sad
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When we buried my grandmother (at the age of 91), her only living friend was too far gone to make it to the graveside. The burial party totaled five: her surviving son, her daughter, her daughter's GF, my mother (a daughter-in-law), and me. That was a terribly lonely graveside. #sad
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If it matters, I'm told that my cousins who lived in the area were somewhat of a comfort to her, but that Grandmother H. had pretty much checked out for her last few years. My dad's family wasn't terribly close to begin with, and I was 2400 miles away, so there wasn't a lot that I could do. #sad
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Personally interviewing a bereaved source only to mock his quotes?
Bunk x 10. #sad
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Furthermore, the overall tone of the post is snarky. Snark is fine and good in the correct circumstances--we're on Gawker--but we're talking about innocent, hitherto anonymous people who didn't actively seek fame or notoriety. They have just had a death in the family. It seems obscene to drag their names in the mud if all you're going to do is make fun of them. #sad
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I'm not sure who expects 400 people to show up at a funeral service, unless a cop, firefighter or major community figure is being sent off. In my experience, I would say that 65 is a pretty good turnout. #sad
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Also, Adrian gets extra points for using "Michiganders" and not the bastardized formation "Michiganians." #sad
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Ooh! I thought the same thing when I read 'Michiganders', though I believe that if Adrian wanted to score the most points, he would have used 'trolls', as this is a story about people from downstate. Not that I think of that every time I meet someone from downstate (I totally do).
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I just have cousins over there... my family's from Grosse Pointe, and I grew up towards the Thumb. #sad
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Also, there's no such place as "downstate" in Michigan. There's civilization (everything south of a line running from Muskegon through Midland), The Thumb, "Up North" (the top half of the Mitten) and "Da U.P." #sad
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I missed the story about Hope, but that sounds about par for Holland, which I consider to be this continent's answer to Johannesburg.
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And you're right -- GR is a bit more liberal than some of the other areas in West MI -- but the entire area is still quite conservative.
It was Hope College in Holland, actually, that is dealing with the controversy re: Lance Black, but Calvin College is mentioned in the article about it, too:
[www.hollandsentinel.com]
Basically, it mentions that the Calvin faculty voted earlier this month to recommend that the Board of Trustees withdraw a memo that was issued to professors and instructed them not to advocate for any homosexual issues -- at least they got it right the second time? #sad
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You just don't hear that kind of smack being talked during a homily at a Catholic church, period. All I can assume is that there are still plenty of Protestants in GR who believe that the Peace of Westphalia was a compromise with the devil. #sad
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Anyway, on topic - I'm really distressed by how the government is handling the flu health issue. Even while we're being scared out of our minds about it, my county health dept. in suburban Detroit ran out of the seasonal flu vaccine in early October.
The excuse offered? The Fed govt. didn't send enough because it's focusing on the H1N1 vaccine. Which we also don't have anywhere near enough of. I'm not optimistic I'm ever going to be able to get the latter shot. (Even though I spend a lot of time around young adults, one of the hardest hit populations.)
Meanwhile, tho' the government agencies don't have any seasonal vaccines, I can go to local retail pharmacies to get a shot there - for a higher cost. What's wrong with this pic? #sad
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Back to topic: the systemic failure to manufacture enough vaccine is just another drawback of our only-for-profit health care system. We don't have to rely on growing the stuff in chicken eggs the way we did ten or twenty years ago, but to do anything that would come off the production line more quickly isn't as profitable.
So, we're rationing flu vaccine again. I'm happy to forgo my shots so that people like you who could really use them can get them. Unfortunately, I can't send them via FedEx from SF to Detroit. #sad
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The consolation prize from the Toledo War was the western half of the U.P.; the eastern half had always been associated with Michigan Territory. #sad
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This hysteria happens everytime a new disease or whatever comes along. There are a lot of ignorant people out there but even the intelligent ones tend to think twice!! #sad
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