"if people want to enjoy a fundamental baseline of serious news media in this country, they will have to pay for it, somehow."
I agree with this, but feel like it misses a larger point. This isn't exactly the full picture of how it worked during the heyday of print journalism, is it? Subscriptions made up a small percentage of revenue, but the rest was comprised mainly of advertising and classifieds. There really is no successful subscription-only media model that has ever worked, as far as I know.
You still have to figure out some sort of successful advertising model to complete the picture.
But.... unless I'm missing something, while the original links won't turn up on Google, any story of any real interest will be linked to by a host of of blogs and other sites and the stories will therefore end up on google anyway.
It just means that if I'm searching for a Wall Street Journal story I'll just have to first click on some business blog that's linked to it.
The NSA has a long history in advising to non-government security standards. Schneier's "Applied Cryptography" notes that several of the fundamental constants of the DES algorithm were contributed by the NSA; they were viewed with some suspicion until many years later, when it was discovered that they made the algorithm suspiciously resilient in the face of a cryptanalytic attack that was not publicly known at the time of the standard's creation.
apart from the privacy aspects - and I have no doubt the collaboration did not enhance privacy - why does the government cooperate with some companies and not others? Why does the NSA get to choose which ventures to provide its expertise to? This is just the powerful helping the powerful, on our dime and at our expense.
Based on the 'takes one to know one' principle, I reckon the NSA should have had some important insight on maintaining privacy. Maybe they also collaborated with Microsoft in planting a few 'backdoors' for national security purposes...
Oh, c'mon Ryan, 'thanks' and 'good luck with that *is* 'Fuck You' in ValSpeak. Remember?
And Evangelists are the assholes who SHOULD be the first to be laid off.. but usually, due to politics and their innate assholier than thou attitudes and exec patronage are the last. #dondodge
This whole thing is reminding me of Carrie Prejean attempting to walk off Larry King Live. Why do right wing freak-a-zoids always have to sit and whine and moan and shriek about "get off my property" and "I'm leaving!" and then never really leave? #newscorp
When a consumer enters a query into Google (and just about any other search engine), they can get hundreds of results. If a News Corp site isn't part of the search result, consumers aren't going to switch to Bing. They're just going to click the most relevant search result that's still there, and 90 percent of the time that's going to be just as fine and dandy for the consumer as it would have been otherwise. Google's probably just laughing at this whole thing. Or am I missing something here? #newscorp
@DennyCrane: One or the other of the linked pieces mention the old workaround, where non-WSJ subscribers get just the first couple of paragraphs from an article via the WSJ site, but they get the whole thing, if they go through Google.
I've never actually looked at the mechanics of this anomaly, but since the WSJ has a paywall, if the Google trick is unauthorized, I wonder why they don't plug the leak because one assumes it is costing them money.
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Otherwise, I like how the hint from the AP that Microsoft may be willing to favor the story originator in search results, something important to some members of the media results in several comments about the AP being antiquated and how Google could put them out of business, if they wanted.
@DennyCrane: Nope, you're not missing anything. This is just another example of executives not liking the terms that the big distributor gives them, and therefore signing a contract with the little new guy (which in this case, at least, is the role MS is playing), even though the little new guy has less than 1/10 the reach. It happens all the time, both on the internet and off it. And it almost never works out.
This is kind of like a record label saying they're dropping iTunes because Apple takes too much of the profits, and instead they're going to distribute all their stuff through eMusic. #newscorp
Someone "invented" PHP? I'd always assumed it had plopped out of the collective asses of a thousand webmonkeys. Seriously, if I'd invented PHP, I wouldn't be bragging about it. #yahoo
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I agree with this, but feel like it misses a larger point. This isn't exactly the full picture of how it worked during the heyday of print journalism, is it? Subscriptions made up a small percentage of revenue, but the rest was comprised mainly of advertising and classifieds. There really is no successful subscription-only media model that has ever worked, as far as I know.
You still have to figure out some sort of successful advertising model to complete the picture.
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It just means that if I'm searching for a Wall Street Journal story I'll just have to first click on some business blog that's linked to it.
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More recently, there was this: [en.wikipedia.org]
The purpose of this collaboration is unknown, but it is not new news.
11/20/09
Corps and end users really don't care where their data will end up -- at least our wonderful government *does*.
This evolutionary move just warms my blackened heart.
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And Evangelists are the assholes who SHOULD be the first to be laid off.. but usually, due to politics and their innate assholier than thou attitudes and exec patronage are the last. #dondodge
11/17/09
Also, he looks a lot like Stephen Colbert with a hot poker shoved up his rear.
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Wining, dining, Vivek Wadhwa lingham and taking dictation:
[mindtaker.blogspot.com]
Seriously, this is the best PR fluff she's never written.
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I've never actually looked at the mechanics of this anomaly, but since the WSJ has a paywall, if the Google trick is unauthorized, I wonder why they don't plug the leak because one assumes it is costing them money.
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Otherwise, I like how the hint from the AP that Microsoft may be willing to favor the story originator in search results, something important to some members of the media results in several comments about the AP being antiquated and how Google could put them out of business, if they wanted.
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This is kind of like a record label saying they're dropping iTunes because Apple takes too much of the profits, and instead they're going to distribute all their stuff through eMusic. #newscorp
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