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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    This whole thing is reminding me of Carrie Prejean attempting to walk off Larry King Live. Why do right wing freak-a-zoids always have to sit and whine and moan and shriek about "get off my property" and "I'm leaving!" and then never really leave? #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    @manchops: Bcause deep down, they can't live without knowing that somebody is watching them. That's what makes them matter. #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    George Pataki is alive and well and living in Rupert Murdoch's basement. #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    News Corp. has a core audience that cares about it. That core audience is mostly older people who are less tech-savvy in the first place and thus less likely to use Google anyway. Furthermore, it's not like there aren't literally thousands of other media sources with the exact same information as News Corp. sources, often with far less of a bias.

    I disagree about the revenue thing. This is all about Rupert Murdoch's quest against fair use. He's pretty much said as much. See here: [www.techdirt.com]

    Why he is so against fair use, I'm not sure, since without it, his newspapers and TV networks could literally not do their jobs. #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    @Arken: Huh?

    Newscorp is one of the largest content providers and content deliverers (SkyTV, etc.) in the entire world.

    I'm not sure NewsCorp has a "core audience" per se. They supply cable TV to most of China ferchrissakes.

    Try to separate their newspaper content (a relatively small piece of the pie), from the other stuff. The company really is big enough to buy the government of a large country. #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    In reply to Why News Corp. Keeps Threatening to Leave Google
    When a consumer enters a query into Google (and just about any other search engine), they can get hundreds of results. If a News Corp site isn't part of the search result, consumers aren't going to switch to Bing. They're just going to click the most relevant search result that's still there, and 90 percent of the time that's going to be just as fine and dandy for the consumer as it would have been otherwise. Google's probably just laughing at this whole thing. Or am I missing something here? #newscorp
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    11/13/09

    @DennyCrane: One or the other of the linked pieces mention the old workaround, where non-WSJ subscribers get just the first couple of paragraphs from an article via the WSJ site, but they get the whole thing, if they go through Google.

    I've never actually looked at the mechanics of this anomaly, but since the WSJ has a paywall, if the Google trick is unauthorized, I wonder why they don't plug the leak because one assumes it is costing them money.
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    Otherwise, I like how the hint from the AP that Microsoft may be willing to favor the story originator in search results, something important to some members of the media results in several comments about the AP being antiquated and how Google could put them out of business, if they wanted.
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    11/13/09

    @DennyCrane: Nope, you're not missing anything. This is just another example of executives not liking the terms that the big distributor gives them, and therefore signing a contract with the little new guy (which in this case, at least, is the role MS is playing), even though the little new guy has less than 1/10 the reach. It happens all the time, both on the internet and off it. And it almost never works out.

    This is kind of like a record label saying they're dropping iTunes because Apple takes too much of the profits, and instead they're going to distribute all their stuff through eMusic. #newscorp
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Über-Programmer Ditches Yahoo Over 'Lame' Microsoft Deal
    Someone "invented" PHP? I'd always assumed it had plopped out of the collective asses of a thousand webmonkeys. Seriously, if I'd invented PHP, I wouldn't be bragging about it. #yahoo
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    11/11/09

    @ifstone: I wish you didn't have a star so I could promote your comment. #yahoo
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    11/05/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    No more MSN.xxx? #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    Another victim of "Spring Forward, Fall Back on Platitudes" I see. #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    Dear Mr. Arrington, you are not as important as you perhaps think you are. #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    Well, his dad's important. #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    John Candy is turning up everywhere these days. #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    who the %$&* is up at midnight waiting to see how much blue is on MSN? sweet jesus, people, reach around and pull your heads out of your asses.
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    Image of dreweverett dreweverett
    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    After reading John Cook's earlier article about the coziness between the NYT reporters and this article about "deals" or "embargos" between reporters and corporations, really, why would anyone trust the media. There should be no deals, not between politicians and reporters and not between tech companies and reporters!!! Yeah, yeah, the argument is that, that is how you get cooperation and information, but trust me, the information would get out - it might be harder, but isn't that the job of a reporter. And in this case, a "lighter blue," it would have been obvious - no need to worry about the missing minutes there (obligatory Nixon reference due to issues of coverup and reporting). #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop

    You're my boy, Blue!! R.I.P. #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Microsoft Flacks Banned 'Forever' Over a 'Significantly Less Blue' Scoop
    Significantly less blue? Somebody call Redd Foxx! #mikearrington
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    11/04/09

    In reply to Sluggish Microsoft to Fire Hundreds This Morning
    I mean, what did all those people really do? They already admitted they let average dipshits with "ideas" design Windows 7. #microsoft
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