@propertius: He was a real man, that one. Some Housman is in order, I think, from Additional Poems:
II.
Oh were he and I together,
Shipmates on the fleeted main,
Sailing through the summer weather
To the spoil of France or Spain.
Oh were he and I together,
Locking hands and taking leave,
Low upon the trampled heather
In the battle lost at eve.
Now are he and I asunder
And asunder to remain;
Kingdoms are for others' plunder,
And content for other slain.
I remember how frigid Ann Coulter couldn’t help creaming herself over him: "Tillman was an American original: virtuous, pure and masculine like only an American male can be. The stunningly handsome athlete walked away from a three-year, $3.6 million NFL contract with the Arizona Cardinals to join the U.S. military and fight in Afghanistan, where he was killed in April. ... He died bringing freedom and democracy to 28 million Afghans -- pretty much confirming Michael Moore's view of America as an imperialist cowboy predator. There is not another country in the world -- certainly not in continental Europe -- that could have produced a Pat Tillman."
And, yet, according to his own mother and brother, he hated Bush, thought the Iraq war as illegal, and was planning on meeting Noam Chomsky. Something for everybody!
@propertius: Yes, yes, and yes. We are birds of a feather, we are.
My understanding is that he was preparing a volume on your namesake, but, as it was incomplete when he was on his deathbed, he ordered it to be destroyed. As I am sure you know, there are lots of notes he made on the editing of Propertius, some of which survive in various journals and in Collected Poems and Selected Prose (Penguin, link). Instead, he left us with his indispensible Manilius (sigh), which can be downloaded as a tidy PDF from Google books (link). Generations of Latin-reading historians of astronomy are grateful to Housman, and to Google, but the lovers among us would have preferred Propertius.
Incidentally, much in his missives to other scholars amounts to snark avant la lettre.
I think Tillman must have been an true American maverick (as opposed to an annoying talking head or an arthritic has-been). Everything I read about suggests that he was an independent thinker and a force to be reckoned with in the classroom, on the football field, and on the Fields of Mars. I can only imagine how he must have been received in Elysium.
@iplaudius: I didn't know about his deathbed deathwish, and it is unfortunate. He must have had Virgil in mind! You can find his emendations in the larger editions of Propertius. He was excellent at conjectures.
As far as snark, I'm not too surprised. Classicists tend to be a catty lot.
Thanks for casting a lovely Housmanian melancholy over the day. Nos puluis et umbra sumus.
I think Gates prefers effective soldiers that get the job done. Ineffectiveness is a reason that Pareene didn't mention in her short list of causes for dismissal. I have noted that there is a disturbing pattern of Irishmen emerging since McKiernan is being replaced by McChrystal.
Seriously, when a theater begins to fall apart, it's not uncommon to replace the commander. Lincoln fired about a half dozen commanders before he settled on Grant (an alcoholic but not gay as far as I know). Bush replaced a pile of commanders before Petraeus came into Iraq and kicked ass. Incidentally, it appears that this move has been made with the recommendation of Petraeus and Mullen.
The CINC has chosen an excellent leader in unconventional warfare to replace an excellent leader in conventional warfare. The issue here is whether the U.S. will be limited to playing whack-a-mole with Al Qaida in Afghanistan or will be able, with the permission (or, at least, tolerance) of the Pakistani military/intelligence complex to eliminate the terrorists that it is harboring in its own territory. If you really want to get exercised, why not attack this as a conspiracy of the USMA Class of '76?
@son of spam: Nope. Just following standard Gawker procedure of offering lemon squares to make nice. If you didn't like the cooking at Schade's, just give 'em away.
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II.
Oh were he and I together,
Shipmates on the fleeted main,
Sailing through the summer weather
To the spoil of France or Spain.
Oh were he and I together,
Locking hands and taking leave,
Low upon the trampled heather
In the battle lost at eve.
Now are he and I asunder
And asunder to remain;
Kingdoms are for others' plunder,
And content for other slain.
I remember how frigid Ann Coulter couldn’t help creaming herself over him: "Tillman was an American original: virtuous, pure and masculine like only an American male can be. The stunningly handsome athlete walked away from a three-year, $3.6 million NFL contract with the Arizona Cardinals to join the U.S. military and fight in Afghanistan, where he was killed in April. ... He died bringing freedom and democracy to 28 million Afghans -- pretty much confirming Michael Moore's view of America as an imperialist cowboy predator. There is not another country in the world -- certainly not in continental Europe -- that could have produced a Pat Tillman."
And, yet, according to his own mother and brother, he hated Bush, thought the Iraq war as illegal, and was planning on meeting Noam Chomsky. Something for everybody!
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I only remember a few bits of Housman:
That is land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot go again.
And on a less poignant key:
Malt does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
I've forgotten the poems, and I've probably misquoted something or other.
The fight over and use of soldiers' corpses is indecent isn't it?
I hadn't heard about his views or a meeting with Chomsky, but why should anyone be surprised that a soldier can think for himself?
One last bit: Housman was an expert on the text of one Sextus Propertius.
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My understanding is that he was preparing a volume on your namesake, but, as it was incomplete when he was on his deathbed, he ordered it to be destroyed. As I am sure you know, there are lots of notes he made on the editing of Propertius, some of which survive in various journals and in Collected Poems and Selected Prose (Penguin, link). Instead, he left us with his indispensible Manilius (sigh), which can be downloaded as a tidy PDF from Google books (link). Generations of Latin-reading historians of astronomy are grateful to Housman, and to Google, but the lovers among us would have preferred Propertius.
Incidentally, much in his missives to other scholars amounts to snark avant la lettre.
I think Tillman must have been an true American maverick (as opposed to an annoying talking head or an arthritic has-been). Everything I read about suggests that he was an independent thinker and a force to be reckoned with in the classroom, on the football field, and on the Fields of Mars. I can only imagine how he must have been received in Elysium.
VI
Ask me no more, for fear I should reply;
Others have held their tongues, and so can I;
Hundreds have died, and told no tale before:
Ask me no more, for fear I should reply --
How one was true and one was clean of stain
And one was braver than the heavens are high,
And one was fond of me: and all are slain.
Ask me no more, for fear I should reply.
VIII
Now to her lap the incestuous earth
The son she bore has ta'en.
And other sons she brings to birth
But not my friend again.
XX
I shall not die for you,
Another fellow may;
Good lads are left and true
Though one departs away.
But he departs to-day
And leaves his work to do,
For I was luckless aye,
And shall not die for you.
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As far as snark, I'm not too surprised. Classicists tend to be a catty lot.
Thanks for casting a lovely Housmanian melancholy over the day. Nos puluis et umbra sumus.
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Surgamus; solet esse gravis cantantibus umbra;
iuniperi gravis umbra; nocent et frugibus umbrae.
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Seriously, when a theater begins to fall apart, it's not uncommon to replace the commander. Lincoln fired about a half dozen commanders before he settled on Grant (an alcoholic but not gay as far as I know). Bush replaced a pile of commanders before Petraeus came into Iraq and kicked ass. Incidentally, it appears that this move has been made with the recommendation of Petraeus and Mullen.
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