I think it's the fact that Utahns go on missions. They travel all over the world. So the idea that someone could have father who is a Kenya and travel to Indonesia in his childhood isn't as, um, foreign as it is to most Americans. Scratch the surface of a birther and guarantee you a rabid xenophobe.
@Mediahohoho: I think you hit the nail on the head there. TheMormon communityis probably the only one where a large number of the members, across all economic strata, visit foreign countries for an extended period of time. And these aren't nice school trips to Europe, but extensive missions to Asia, Africa, South America where they live or try to live as part of the community and not as tourists. There's no elitism atached to the practice, and so no barely hidden fear or resentment of President Obama as someone who did something wierd or unamerican.
@ArgusRun: I'd only amend my original statement to add that I meant to say Mormons because I know that Utahns and Mormons aren't the same thing. Just close.
I may be completely misremembering, but during the elections wasn't there some study showing that states with nearly non-existent black populations and states with large black populations were generally less racist than states where blacks were a visible-but-not-too-populous minority? Or at least that was what was extrapolated from Obama's numbers in the primaries? Oy, I dunno - any Nate Silver groupies out there know what I'm talking about?
@Wendy_Kroy: Oh I am such a Nate Silver groupie. But I never paid attention to the numbers and words on his website...I just would click over there for the pictures...and that lovely, lovely map that turned a beautiful shade of blue as the election got closer.
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@Wendy_Kroy: You're mostly right, I believe. It was that Obama did well in states with no significant black population or a large one. In the former case, it was theorized that Obama did well with whites because there were hardly any black people to resent, however, in the latter case, Obama did just as poorly with white voters as he did in the mid-level states; it's just that there were comparatively less of them, and obviously, he crushed Hillary in the black vote.
@meechybee: Exactly! That's what I was expecting when I clicked on the link. Experts in genealogy know a real Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth when they see one ;)
@cassiemajestic: You know what this means? They have his b-certificate, they know he's an American citizen...and Obama's a secret Mormom. Romney just kept quiet because he thought the Muslin rumors would keep the zenophobia spotlight off of himself.
I think Bill Maher is right that we can't let the birthers gain traction. When 9% of a population believe batshit craziness, that's still a lot of people.
States that have larger percentages of birthers should just be chopped off the map and floated out to sea.
What's the most racist state in America? That's got to be marginally as interesting as The Most Annoying Liberal Arts School In The U.S. I'm veering towards Oklahoma, West Virginia or South Carolina. One of that Despicable Trinity.
My mind is saying the Okies (homogenous and ill-educated), but my guts remind me of Obama's dismal vote totals in WV during the primary and again during the general election.
@RonMwangaguhunga: Like the above report says, "It is harder for conspiracies based on racial resentments to build steam when, you know, there aren't any minorities around to resent." A homogenous population is actually less likely to be racist in many ways because their world consists of very few minorities. A segregated heterogenous population would probably be the most racist. So maybe South Carolina would work. I would also agree with the rust belt argument, but stereotypes tell me it's gotta be a southern state.
@misslinda: Never been there, Miss Linda. But looking at President Obama's totals in those three states gives me a queasy "Make-it-Stop" feeling.
Some parts of this country really scare me.
@nozer: South Carolina has a pretty large African-American population. The Democrat primary is strongly influence by that vote. But it took decades to pry the Confederate flag from their statehouse.
You might have a point.
@antisocialite: Public Enemy would agree. And, of course, this:"Former Arizona Governor Evan Meecham created a furor when he said that he did not believe that the term 'pickaninny' was offensive .."
@antisocialite: I'd vote for AZ, and I'm white and from California.
The majority of the 'zonies that come out to San Diego in summer are not only racist, but also belligerent drunks and generally unwelcome. They have not done much to engender the goodwill of the locals.
@Nice Beaver: Grew up in Michigan, now live in Ohio, brief period of childhood spent in Mississippi.
1) South Eastern Michigan = Not very racist at all. We have Muslim neighbors! We like them! I cannot vouch for Northern Michigan.
2) Southern Ohio = More racist than Michigan. But less overtly racist than some parts of California.
3) Mississippi = Hella racist. So racist they still hate northerners (They called me a Yankee. I was 6. So were they). So racist that white children do not attend public schools.
@RonMwangaguhunga: Clearly none of you have been to Boston, in fair ol' librul Taxachusetts. Boston also had to be forcibly desegregated...in the 1970s!
God, I hate Boston, it's an entire city of drunken, ignorant douchebags.
@antisocialite: Arizona is still under strict voting rights supervision because they won't quit trying to dis-enfranchise the Hopi and Navajo. (Alaska is the other non-Southern/Conferate state, also over Native American voting.)
Then there's Sheriff Joe...
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States that have larger percentages of birthers should just be chopped off the map and floated out to sea.
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My mind is saying the Okies (homogenous and ill-educated), but my guts remind me of Obama's dismal vote totals in WV during the primary and again during the general election.
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You might have a point.
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The majority of the 'zonies that come out to San Diego in summer are not only racist, but also belligerent drunks and generally unwelcome. They have not done much to engender the goodwill of the locals.
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1) South Eastern Michigan = Not very racist at all. We have Muslim neighbors! We like them! I cannot vouch for Northern Michigan.
2) Southern Ohio = More racist than Michigan. But less overtly racist than some parts of California.
3) Mississippi = Hella racist. So racist they still hate northerners (They called me a Yankee. I was 6. So were they). So racist that white children do not attend public schools.
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God, I hate Boston, it's an entire city of drunken, ignorant douchebags.
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Then there's Sheriff Joe...
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