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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    I think it's the fact that Utahns go on missions. They travel all over the world. So the idea that someone could have father who is a Kenya and travel to Indonesia in his childhood isn't as, um, foreign as it is to most Americans. Scratch the surface of a birther and guarantee you a rabid xenophobe.
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    Image of ArgusRun ArgusRun
    08/10/09

    @Mediahohoho: I think you hit the nail on the head there. TheMormon communityis probably the only one where a large number of the members, across all economic strata, visit foreign countries for an extended period of time. And these aren't nice school trips to Europe, but extensive missions to Asia, Africa, South America where they live or try to live as part of the community and not as tourists. There's no elitism atached to the practice, and so no barely hidden fear or resentment of President Obama as someone who did something wierd or unamerican.
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    08/10/09

    @ArgusRun: I'd only amend my original statement to add that I meant to say Mormons because I know that Utahns and Mormons aren't the same thing. Just close.
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    Image of Wendy_Kroy Wendy_Kroy
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    I may be completely misremembering, but during the elections wasn't there some study showing that states with nearly non-existent black populations and states with large black populations were generally less racist than states where blacks were a visible-but-not-too-populous minority? Or at least that was what was extrapolated from Obama's numbers in the primaries? Oy, I dunno - any Nate Silver groupies out there know what I'm talking about?
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    Image of Hockeymom Hockeymom
    08/10/09

    @Wendy_Kroy: Oh I am such a Nate Silver groupie. But I never paid attention to the numbers and words on his website...I just would click over there for the pictures...and that lovely, lovely map that turned a beautiful shade of blue as the election got closer.
    Memories.
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    Image of msquared msquared
    08/10/09

    @Wendy_Kroy: You're mostly right, I believe. It was that Obama did well in states with no significant black population or a large one. In the former case, it was theorized that Obama did well with whites because there were hardly any black people to resent, however, in the latter case, Obama did just as poorly with white voters as he did in the mid-level states; it's just that there were comparatively less of them, and obviously, he crushed Hillary in the black vote.
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    Image of ChillbearLatrigue ChillbearLatrigue
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    In Utah 9% translates to three people.
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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    08/10/09

    @ChillbearLatrigue: but belive me, those three are fucking nuts
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    Image of meechybee meechybee
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    Isn't that Church of Latter-Day Saints the same ones who keep all those birth records?

    [www.pbs.org]
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    Image of cassiemajestic cassiemajestic
    08/10/09

    @meechybee: Exactly! That's what I was expecting when I clicked on the link. Experts in genealogy know a real Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth when they see one ;)
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    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    08/10/09

    @cassiemajestic: You know what this means? They have his b-certificate, they know he's an American citizen...and Obama's a secret Mormom. Romney just kept quiet because he thought the Muslin rumors would keep the zenophobia spotlight off of himself.
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    Image of BxgrlJeri BxgrlJeri
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    I think Bill Maher is right that we can't let the birthers gain traction. When 9% of a population believe batshit craziness, that's still a lot of people.
    States that have larger percentages of birthers should just be chopped off the map and floated out to sea.
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    Image of schatzepage schatzepage
    08/10/09

    @BxgrlJeri: I will miss sweet tea and grits.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    08/10/09

    @BxgrlJeri: Um, do you think maybe that could wait until Big Love is over? A girl's gotta prioritize.
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    Image of notsofresh notsofresh
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    Um, hello?! Karl Malone?!
    Oh, yeah. He's a Republican.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    08/10/09

    In reply to Only 9 Percent of Utahns Think Barry Obama Was Secretly Born in Kenya!
    What's the most racist state in America? That's got to be marginally as interesting as The Most Annoying Liberal Arts School In The U.S. I'm veering towards Oklahoma, West Virginia or South Carolina. One of that Despicable Trinity.
    My mind is saying the Okies (homogenous and ill-educated), but my guts remind me of Obama's dismal vote totals in WV during the primary and again during the general election.
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    Image of Nice Beaver Nice Beaver
    08/10/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: Don't sleep on Michigan or Ohio, Ron. Rust Belters are ANGRY, and they don't like to blame GM or Ford.
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    Image of nozer nozer
    08/10/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: Like the above report says, "It is harder for conspiracies based on racial resentments to build steam when, you know, there aren't any minorities around to resent." A homogenous population is actually less likely to be racist in many ways because their world consists of very few minorities. A segregated heterogenous population would probably be the most racist. So maybe South Carolina would work. I would also agree with the rust belt argument, but stereotypes tell me it's gotta be a southern state.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    08/10/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: You've clearly never been to Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. Never underestimate the combination of stupid and humid.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    08/10/09

    @Nice Beaver: Thanks. I forgot the rust belt. The 2008 campaign interviews in parts of Ohio were profoundly disturbing.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    08/10/09

    @misslinda: Never been there, Miss Linda. But looking at President Obama's totals in those three states gives me a queasy "Make-it-Stop" feeling.
    Some parts of this country really scare me.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    08/10/09

    @nozer: South Carolina has a pretty large African-American population. The Democrat primary is strongly influence by that vote. But it took decades to pry the Confederate flag from their statehouse.
    You might have a point.
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    Image of WhiteMan'sBourbon WhiteMan'sBourbon
    08/10/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: I'm going to vote for Arizona, just based on entirely subjective personal experience. And I'm white.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    08/10/09

    @antisocialite: Public Enemy would agree. And, of course, this:"Former Arizona Governor Evan Meecham created a furor when he said that he did not believe that the term 'pickaninny' was offensive .."
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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    08/10/09

    @antisocialite: I'd vote for AZ, and I'm white and from California.
    The majority of the 'zonies that come out to San Diego in summer are not only racist, but also belligerent drunks and generally unwelcome. They have not done much to engender the goodwill of the locals.
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    Image of cassiemajestic cassiemajestic
    08/10/09

    @Nice Beaver: Grew up in Michigan, now live in Ohio, brief period of childhood spent in Mississippi.
    1) South Eastern Michigan = Not very racist at all. We have Muslim neighbors! We like them! I cannot vouch for Northern Michigan.

    2) Southern Ohio = More racist than Michigan. But less overtly racist than some parts of California.
    3) Mississippi = Hella racist. So racist they still hate northerners (They called me a Yankee. I was 6. So were they). So racist that white children do not attend public schools.
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    08/10/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: Clearly none of you have been to Boston, in fair ol' librul Taxachusetts. Boston also had to be forcibly desegregated...in the 1970s!
    God, I hate Boston, it's an entire city of drunken, ignorant douchebags.
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    Image of La Mareada La Mareada
    08/10/09

    @antisocialite: Arizona is still under strict voting rights supervision because they won't quit trying to dis-enfranchise the Hopi and Navajo. (Alaska is the other non-Southern/Conferate state, also over Native American voting.)
    Then there's Sheriff Joe...
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    They can sit him down and tell him all about how the curse of Cain that has blackened the skin of his sinful people was finally lessened in 1978!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_and_Mormonism#The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_...-day_Saints
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    Image of FattyCatty FattyCatty
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    Why doesn't he just turn out the lights and pretend not to be home when they ring the doorbell like the rest of us?
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    He is our first lamanite president!
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    07/20/09

    @Botswana Meat Commission FC: Someone's been up late studying his Pearl of Great Price while eschewing caffeine and self-pleasure, I see.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    didn't they also go and baptize a bunch of dead jews and then have to officially apoligize and all
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    Image of Artie Fufkin Artie Fufkin
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    Their idea of helping the economy bounce back by installing a trampoline in the ground was rejected by Obama.
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    Image of Dominant Glee Club Dominant Glee Club
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    Part of me is glad that Obama is truly trying to involve everyone in his administration, and part of me wants to ask if the Monson will be taking notes on flatware at the meeting.
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    Image of Weegee's bored Weegee's bored
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    I just found out that the Mormons baptized my career.
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    Image of LUV_TRUK LUV_TRUK
    07/20/09

    In reply to Mormons To Have Awkward Sit-Down With Prez
    They'll reminisce about that time that God created the blacks from evil white people that fought for Satan in a war against God.

    Ahhhh memories.
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    07/20/09

    @LUV_TRUK: 'So, Mr. President, have you visited the ancestral homestead in accursed Canaan yet?'
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