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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    They grow bad so fast.
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    Image of Miss Anita Manbadly Miss Anita Manbadly
    11/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    I've always said it, and I always will say it. The name of their state is not pronounced Miz-sur-ree, it's pronounced Misery. And the people who live in Misery are Miserables. Les and otherwise.
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    Image of toweringinferno toweringinferno
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    Are we just hearing more about incredibly violent kids under 16...or are kids under 16 a hell of a lot more violent than they used to be?
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    Aidan_ promoted this comment toweringinferno was starred toweringinferno was unstarred
    Image of Aidan_ Aidan_
    11/23/09

    @toweringinferno: I'm usually inclined to think option A, but seeing as I'm neither a sociologist, a psychologist or a criminologist that means about fuck-all.
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    If anything, give her the chair for her usage of Comic Sans.
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    11/23/09

    @lobstr: Genius. Twisted genius, but genius nonetheless.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    I guess we can look forward to another Ellen Page vehicle.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    11/23/09

    @iplaudius: Comments like this make me want to switch out my brain for a new model. I'll never think this quickly.
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    What I find even more interesting is the model Missouri has for incarcerating its youth:

    "[If Bustamanate is convicted] of first-degree murder, it's still possible she will end up in the care of the state Division of Youth Services.

    "That's because Missouri is one of 22 states to have what is called a 'dual jurisdiction' system. Under state law, if Bustamante was found guilty, a judge could consider keeping her under the care of the juvenile system — which is heavy on rehabilitation — until she is 21. At that point, another hearing would be held to determine if she was ready to be released, or sent to adult prison for the remainder of her sentence."

    Basically, despite being charged as an adult, she could still only serve a minor's sentence.

    People who are pro-rehabilitation can cite that "of the 46 juveniles who have completed the state's rehabilitation program as part of a dual jurisdiction sentence, only 10 have ended up going back to prison, said Heberle. That's nearly an 80 percent success rate, which is much higher than traditional corrections programs."

    People on the opposing side can cite that of those 46 juveniles, only 5 have ever been girls, 1 of which has re-offended, and none were charged with first-degree murder, though the system has worked for boys of similar background.

    Given her background, I think she's most likely to commit suicide before anyone has a chance to figure out what to do with her.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/23/09

    @Poop Cooper: Sounds something like Canada's system. That sure is an impressive success rate; there's only one program I've heard of here that approaches that rate for violent offenders, and it's restricted to Aboriginal participants.
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    11/23/09

    @Poop Cooper: Yes, but of those 46 juveniles, how many were convicted of manslaughter vs. just being a douchebag arsonist/troublemaker? That makes a difference.
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    Image of CrayonSmoothie CrayonSmoothie
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    This story is just so goddamn sad...I hope nobody tries to sensationalize it.
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    Image of RandomLunatic RandomLunatic
    11/23/09

    @CrayonSmoothie: Too late. If it hasn't been done yet, it's on its way.
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    Image of Astroblack Astroblack
    11/23/09

    @CrayonSmoothie: Yeah, this is the sensationalization right here. She's already a star. There really is no such thing as bad publicity anymore.
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    11/23/09

    @CrayonSmoothie: Ha ha ha, ha ha ha. Ha.
    Oh. Wait. You were serious.
    Poor thing, that train has since LONG left the station.
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    Image of CrayonSmoothie CrayonSmoothie
    11/23/09

    @Trai_Dep: I forgot to use the irony tag.

    #tips
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    I guess they never heard of Nick Cave's Curse of Millhaven, or any of the kids listed here eh?

    [www.trutv.com]
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/23/09

    @raincoaster: Or this 14-year-old girl, wanted for murdering a homeless man:
    [www.cbc.ca]

    This 15-year-old girl , charged with murdering a 78-year old man :

    [network.nationalpost.com]

    Or the Reena Virk swarming case:

    [www.cbc.ca]

    And that's just Canada, which had a total murder count of 594 in 2007.

    It's not rare. It's just rare that there's one so well-documented.
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    Edited by raincoaster at 11/23/09 2:08 AM raincoaster was starred raincoaster was unstarred
    Image of RandomLunatic RandomLunatic
    11/23/09

    @raincoaster: Thank you. I was getting so annoyed in general with people acting as if this story was something new. I wish it was. It is not - not by a long shot.
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    Image of mimilove mimilove
    11/23/09


    @raincoaster: Actually, in the scheme of things, female juvenile murderer numbers are rather low when compared to male juvenile murderers. And I expect when the type of murder is taken into account (meaning premeditated, seemingly motive-less, and non-firearm-related), you could probably count the annual female offenders on two hands. The latest numbers I could find were from 2006: that year, about 7% of known juvenile murderers were female (88 out of 1253) ([ojjdp.ncjrs.org]).

    Actually--I just found this website where you can search very specific crime-related terms. It appears that in 2006, 47 non-firearm-related murders were committed by females under the age of 17: [ojjdp.ncjrs.gov] That's compared to 305 committed by juvenile males. So about 13% of non-firearm-related (and, in my mind, far more personal and brutal) murders in 2006 were committed by juvenile females.
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    raincoaster promoted this comment mimilove was starred mimilove was unstarred
    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/23/09

    @mimilove: Thank you, yes. I know that (well, not the specific integers, but the trends, yes). What I'm trying to show is that this is such an unthinkable occurrence that, although it does occur with some regularity and predictability, the collective memory blocks it out.

    Females, by the way, are far more likely to be poisoners. So think of that the next time you ask some pissed-off woman to make you a sandwich.
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    Image of RandomLunatic RandomLunatic
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    Azaria, people have been doing stuff like this with really interesting cases - like this one - for years now, including the crowd-sourcing part of it. The preserving of the "evidence" is nothing new, and it's ridiculously easy to do.

    Neither is the level of psycho this kid shows. A Google search for ya - Sarah Kolb was at this game years ago:

    [www.google.com]
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/23/09

    In reply to Nobody Knows What to Do with a Female Teen Killer, Other Than Watch Her Creepy Videos
    I wish I hadn't watched that video. Not that there was anything graphic about it, but it was just... creepy.
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    Image of johnivdaly johnivdaly
    11/20/09

    Errrr nevermind, this was already posted. Damn night crew.

    [news.bbc.co.uk]

    Lookout, unemployed fat people! A Peruvian gang allegedly lured people "with fake job offers before killing them and extracting their fat.." to sell... as cosmetics.

    #tips #unemployment #fatties #murder
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    Edited by johnivdaly at 11/20/09 8:52 AM johnivdaly was starred johnivdaly was unstarred
    Image of Froggmann Froggmann
    11/13/09

    In reply to Detroit: Murder Murder Murder, Kill Kill Kill
    I never wanted to go to Detroit to begin with. For me it's right up there with prison. Except I would likely survive prison. #charlieleduff
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    Ben Wojdyla promoted this comment Froggmann was starred Froggmann was unstarred
    Image of Ben Wojdyla Ben Wojdyla
    11/14/09

    @Froggmann: Bollocks. I've lived here for a decade and it makes NYC and LA look like a filthy concrete canyons filled with self-important douche bags

    Has it got problems? You bet. Plenty in fact, but, if the city proper didn't have screwed up taxes and ridiculously high insurance rates I'd be living downtown.

    But since you've already passed judgment, please continue doing so and stay away. #charlieleduff
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    11/13/09

    In reply to Detroit: Murder Murder Murder, Kill Kill Kill
    2nd Amendment! #charlieleduff
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    Image of Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est Mr.choppers - Delenda Carthago Est
    11/13/09

    In reply to Detroit: Murder Murder Murder, Kill Kill Kill
    Is there a Green Zone? #charlieleduff
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    Image of onehotjuggler onehotjuggler
    11/13/09

    In reply to Detroit: Murder Murder Murder, Kill Kill Kill
    How bad is it, that read the headline as
    "Murder, Death, Kill"
    What an awful movie
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    A Message To Rudy promoted this comment onehotjuggler was starred onehotjuggler was unstarred
    Image of A Message To Rudy A Message To Rudy
    11/13/09

    @onehotjuggler: It's on a double bill with "Truly, Madly, Deeply" #charlieleduff
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