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    Image of Front_Towards_Enemy Front_Towards_Enemy
    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    I remember the fools I always encounter while hiking inside the Grand Canyon.

    There are signs posted at the edge of all the trails warning about the lack of water and NOT TO ATTEMPT to hike to the river & back in a single day.

    When we hike inside the canyon, each of us carry a backpack, emergency food & clothing, first aid kits, plus 2 gallons of water.

    On every trip, we pass morons who wear sneakers and are carrying a 16oz bottle of designer water liek they are out on a Sunday stroll.

    On our last trip at about a 3rd of the way down, we ran into a dad who was hiking in the canyon with his 4 precious snowflakes in-tow who was only carrying 1 canteen of water for all five of them. .

    During June.

    I had to stop him, take him aside and insist he go back up right now due to lack of water. He simply could not understand why we were so concerned about him & his brood. He figured if he got into trouble, he could call the rangers to help him out. He also assumed there was water readily available on the trail. (Mind you the signs at the trailheads tell you there is very little if any water inside the canyon in GIANT BOLD LETTERS. #nature
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    10/27/09

    @Front_Towards_Enemy: Of course you have to have read "Death in the Grand Canyon" yes? It's the guilty pleasure of northern Arizona. #nature
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    10/28/09

    @Tart of Darkness: I bought a copy on my last trip! #nature
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    Image of icedog icedog
    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    These are becoming a problem in Canada where the Yuppies and Euros are using these things just because they're getting tired of their "adventure" and want an easy way out. Our search and rescue system is built on civilian volunteers who are being forced to take unnecessary risks and give up work days and days off to rescue these rich idiots, who often can't be bothered to thank their rescuers. #nature
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    In the Alps, you're charged for helicopter rescues. So people buy rescue insurance before off-trail skiing, or glacier climbing. It's cheap, and it seems to level the playing field. #nature
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    "Daddy, I think you bought Evian instead of Fiji."

    "Oh, God, Eileen! Push the Bat (Mitzvah) Signal!" #nature
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    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    How is a device that costs $299.00 only for yuppies? Do the poors sleep w/out tents and hunt bears w/ spears for food? #nature
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/26/09

    @once: It's not. You split the cost with your camping buddies and it's pretty cheap. But it's the concept that is yuppified--that help is only a button away. Though you could also think of it as opening nature up to those who would not otherwise be able to. So it's really the non-yuppies who are being selfish by wanting to restrict yuppies to leaf peeping and apple picking. #nature
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    10/26/09

    @misslinda: What are flares for? This is simply an improvement on existing rescue devices. High profile rescue cases take days or even weeks to locate people - it would actually save money to find these people w/in a matter of hours. The problem is trigger-happy campers like the 2 idiots & their teenage sons who should have been fined for their 2nd & 3rd rescues. #nature
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    10/26/09

    @once: Flares...
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    Image of SpyMagician SpyMagician
    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    Maybe that other lady who had problems with the Park Slope Food Co-op could have used this device to help her? #nature
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    10/26/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    I want these people to die. I want them to die in pain. No: in agony.

    I just interviewed a professional explorer, Anthony Dalton, and he made it very clear to me that when he went on his adventures he didn't expect it to cost anyone anything when it went wrong (which it frequently did). When his boat capsized off Alaska in the fall, with icebergs around, he thought "oh shit, you've killed yourself. Now what?"

    He didn't think, "Oh god, this is inconvenient." #nature
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    10/26/09

    @raincoaster: By the way, that Into The Wild kid is the archetype of this kind of whiner. He ate poisoned plants, and blamed the planet. Dude was completely unprepared for the challenge he faced. If I learned nothing else from that book, I learned that great writing can be wasted on bad material.
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    10/26/09

    @raincoaster: As a Canuck, I've been known to define GPS devices as "Yuppie placation devices." #nature
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    10/26/09

    @raincoaster: As a biologist who has had to trek to some pretty remote field sites, I call GPS devices and sat phones "necessities". #nature
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    10/26/09

    @raincoaster: Gotta disagree about the Into the Wild Kid, he just made a mistake, albeit a deadly one. The poisonous plant he ate was almost identical to an edible plant. My brother dropped off the grid years ago and lives on his self-sustaining ranch in Colorado. He goes off for weeks at a time on his mule and lives off the land, and he told me it was a very easy mistake for the kid to make. #nature
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/26/09

    @Cicada: As someone who's driven around Bushwick, I agree. #nature
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    Image of filthy tongue filthy tongue
    10/26/09

    @fuckingoldman: It's my understanding that in addition to eating the poisonous plant, he was carrying an outdated map and was ill prepared for the harsh weather. This kid isn't a hero. He's not a complete dumbass, but he's not a hero, either. #nature
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    10/27/09

    @filthy tongue: His map was actually a roadmap so he could see highways and rivers, but he definitely would have been better off with a better map.

    And also it's important to consider that I think Krakauer's point about him was not that he was a hero or a dummy but just a guy who wanted to experience the world himself without the information filter that the rest of us rely on minute to minute. He didn't want to educate himself about what he couldn't do and in the end it cost him his life. He may have been overconfident but he wanted an experience that most people never obtain.

    In the continental United States there is no place left that is more than 25 miles from some kind of road. It's sad to consider that for some people who need and want wilderness, there really isn't any. #nature
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    Image of filthy tongue filthy tongue
    10/27/09

    @Tart of Darkness: Fair enough. I read the article and book years ago, but having seen the movie more recently left me with a messed up impression of what the original works were trying to accomplish.

    Also, I can empathize with people who want to experience wilderness. I just read an article about Google Wave, and all I want to do now is go live in the woods. #nature
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    10/28/09

    @filthy tongue: Ha! I hear that. And I refused to see the movie. I understand that now the bus is a very popular destination for teens and some have had to be rescued from it. Sigh.

    My true solution to the problem of people going out into nature and getting lost (particularly young men) is to ban Emerson. He wasn't even in the wilderness and he had a constant parade of guests at his place. In that sense Walden Pond was a shuck. #nature
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    Personal Locator Beacons--for when glamping gets too rustic. #nature
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    I think that as soon as agencies start to charge for rescues, there will be insurance agencies selling polices for just such eventualities. In fact, I imagine that if agencies would charge for rescues, insurance companies would give these personal locator beacons out for free. #nature
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    Image of Bindlestiffy Bindlestiffy
    10/26/09

    @Tart of Darkness: They do charge; taxpayers get socked again. Bet these guys worked for Lehman or some failed hedge fund... #nature
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    10/27/09

    @Bindlestiffy: Probably, yes. #nature
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    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    Next you gonna tell me that rich people have easier time getting the cops to show up at their place if someone tries to break in? #nature
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    Isn't a Personal Locator Beacon the poor man's Sat Phone?

    The Taliban is more advanced than this. #nature
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    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    "Yes, hi, when will the flight attendant be around with the hot towels?" #nature
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    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    do they also have a panic button when one gets suspended from shopping at Park Slope co-op? wouldn't be surprise if they do. #nature
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    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    "Yes, hi. We're at the bottom of the canyon and there's a sign here that says you have to climb back up to get to the top? Now is that for everyone or... what?" #nature
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    10/25/09

    @Airvault: we simply cannot find the series of canopied escalators! #nature
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    10/25/09

    @lobstr: "And where do you pipe this water in from? Brooklyn?" #nature
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    Image of Moff Moff
    10/25/09

    In reply to Yuppies' Magical Wussie-Rescue Beacons Starting To Piss Off Rescue Authorities
    This is surely unfair of me because I know none of the parties involved, but why do I have a sneaking suspicion that some of the assholes pulling this shit and abusing state and federal rescue services are big Glenn Beck fans with, you know, nothing but contempt for all those people who rely on the government too much? #nature
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    10/26/09

    @Moff: Why do you hate America? #nature
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