There will be nothing like snorting up the factory fumes and puffing on a blunt as I head into Newark to get my other illegal activities on. As a New Yorker, I'm jealous of the ridiculous corruption and stories flowing from the Dirty Irzy this year. Good times!
So New Jersey is ready to trust people to use marijuana responsibly, and yet they still won't let you pump your own gas. Makes sense. (New Jersey sense.)
@Sonar Jose: Being from the Midwest, full service confuses and angers me. I will fill up in Pennsylvania or New York just so I don't have to stop in New Jersey. I think part of this is panic about tipping propriety. Is my cost built in? Is it not built in, and the dude is living off my tip? Is the cost built in, but it's decent to tip anyway? What the fuck do I do?!
@Yahweh Took My Prepuce: I've never tipped a gas station attendant in my 35 years. It's not expected. Also, you're paying more in PA and/or NY AND pumping the gas yourself. Assuming you know which side your gas tank is on, there's really no reason to panic. If you're still worried, we'll have something to calm your nerves in a few months.
The two Governor races has to be as bad for Obama, as Democrats Jim McGreevey and Mark Warner winning the same offices in November '01 was for Bush. #barackobama
@intime: Well. the first problem is that asking people why they did something is not useful. People are notoriously bad at explaining their own rationale for anything. But asking those kinds of questions makes for a good (manufactured) story. #barackobama
Pareene your point of view here is as simplistic and incomplete as the point of view that says these gov elections were referenda "about Obama."
Things, particularly politics, can be complicated, and it's not helpful to understanding an election to reduce it to a single narrative.
It's definitely true that both dem candidates in NJ and VA sucked.
And that (ergo / e.g.) in VA Deeds pretty much failed to turn out the Obama coalition, specifically young people and African Americans.
And it's definitely true that both elections (particularly NJ) focused on local issues.
However -- and I can speak with more specific knowledge to VA than NJ -- "national" issues like big government, tea bagging, etc also came into play.
Obama has definitely lost ground with indp voters. (Rightly or wrongly. I personally think wrongly / unfairly but it's still a problem.)
My bottom line is that while it would have been nice to win NJ and VA gov, we're talking about shitty candidates who deserved to lose. I have more sympathy for Deeds than for Corzine (former Goldman CEO who was on ok senator but a craptastic gov), but they both ran terrible campaigns.
And my hope is that these losses will serve as a wake-up call for 2010, both for the DNC/DCCC/DSCC and (more importantly) for we "grass roots" and the "Obama coalition" overall. #barackobama
@jackbarber: p.s. Typing in these comment windows has become an excruciating experience. (the cursor keeping up with my typing.) Is this problem specific to me / my browser or is this a known issue. #barackobama
@jackbarber: Thanks for this comment.
One note about the independent voters: the number of people identifying as independent has boomed in part because of disaffected GOPers joining their ranks. It seems like at least some of the independent shift to the right is coming from these voters, many of whom were still identifying as Republican prior to the '08 election.
It's difficult to compare the level of independent voter support from then to now when the population of independent voters is increasing and the ID of "independent" is not affiliated with any specific political viewpoint. The strategists are going to have to get to work on the problem, since there are now more independents than either Democrats or Republicans. #barackobama
The New Jersey election results show that Obama needs to work harder to appeal to suppressed fat people. Maybe he should try putting on a spare tire. #barackobama
@Steverino Begins: The folks who really, reeeeeaaallly want this to be about Obama will find a way to explain those away. Don't you worry! #barackobama
Some how when Democrats won the governorships of NJ & VA in 2001, right after 9/11, no pundits called it the end of Bush or that the Democrats were resurgent. They're two states, that for their own peculiar local reasons, ALWAYS switch to the opposite party. #barackobama
@La Mareada: I posted a similar comment before reading all the threads, but yours does bring up another point: If the pundits didn't jump on Bush, it could've been out of respect for the recent tragedy and because back then, pundits might have tried staying closer to the middle of the road.
Earlier, I tried to find Bush's reaction to the 2001 election, but after 15 minutes, I had to give up.
@Magister: I think you're right about the pundits.
I'll add that if there was any time that VA and NJ were going to break their pattern of choosing the opposite party, one month after 9/11 would have been that time. But they didn't. #barackobama
On the East Coast, elections aren't really about voting along party lines. We're pretty confident that nobody is going to impose some whackadoo policy like banning abortions for anyone who gets grant money from the NEA, so it's really about who's going to make our lives easier. For homeowners, that tends to be the Republicans. For renters, that tends to be the Democrats. At least that's how it works in NYC. I'm a hardcore Democrat but I voted for Mayor Mike cause he's got my back as an upper middle class homeowner. Even when Rudy was mayor, once the liberals got a whiff of his conservative social policies, we beat him back into submission, all the while thoroughly enjoying the new, safe, clean verison of NYC he helped create. So yeah, this all means nada, but let the loons have their moment. They worked so hard, and that's really what elections should be all about, who worked the hardest. #barackobama
@misslinda: Which East Coast are you referring to? The EC of the US or the EC of your imagination?
The Newark Star Ledger had a picture of a Hoboken Condo (where the Gov lives???) with a banner draping virtually the entire building with the tag line of "Column A All the Way"
Essex, Hudson, Bergen, Camden, etc. counties traditionally vote for democrats. They did so last night. Essex and Hudson were 68% Corzine.
Union shocked most people when it went 51% Corzine and 43% Christie. Union was expected to have a 30 point gap. Similarly, Bergen, the most populous county, was about 50/50.
Yes property tax was the main issue. However, many voters saw Gov Corzine's progressive policies as the source of the skyrocketing rates. [I got it, most ppty tax is municipal, not state]. For example, the NJ legislative budget office put a $20,000,0000,000 price tag on his COAH initiative.
His inability / unwillingness to address the key issues of his 2004 election also sealed his fate. 1) Did not bring transparency. He actually went to the NJ Supreme Court to shield his email to his ex-girlfriend labor leader. 2) He failed to rein in corruption. Instead, he (and his foundations) contributed to organizations and/or campaigns managed by many of the indicted. 3) He did nothing for property tax. Hew was seen as the person who piled on more programs. Before responding, I am not judging the merits of his programs -- many I support.
It was his arrogance that alienated many democratic voters. #barackobama
@stacey.f.jaffe: Yes but my neighborhood improved tenfold under Mayor Mike, in safety and appearance. Also improved for me was subway service, bus service, the local parks, the local schools...I don't mind paying as long as I see results, which he delivered. #barackobama
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I'm not really clear on why the news media is conveniently ignoring this fact. #barackobama
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Things, particularly politics, can be complicated, and it's not helpful to understanding an election to reduce it to a single narrative.
It's definitely true that both dem candidates in NJ and VA sucked.
And that (ergo / e.g.) in VA Deeds pretty much failed to turn out the Obama coalition, specifically young people and African Americans.
And it's definitely true that both elections (particularly NJ) focused on local issues.
However -- and I can speak with more specific knowledge to VA than NJ -- "national" issues like big government, tea bagging, etc also came into play.
Obama has definitely lost ground with indp voters. (Rightly or wrongly. I personally think wrongly / unfairly but it's still a problem.)
My bottom line is that while it would have been nice to win NJ and VA gov, we're talking about shitty candidates who deserved to lose. I have more sympathy for Deeds than for Corzine (former Goldman CEO who was on ok senator but a craptastic gov), but they both ran terrible campaigns.
And my hope is that these losses will serve as a wake-up call for 2010, both for the DNC/DCCC/DSCC and (more importantly) for we "grass roots" and the "Obama coalition" overall. #barackobama
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One note about the independent voters: the number of people identifying as independent has boomed in part because of disaffected GOPers joining their ranks. It seems like at least some of the independent shift to the right is coming from these voters, many of whom were still identifying as Republican prior to the '08 election.
It's difficult to compare the level of independent voter support from then to now when the population of independent voters is increasing and the ID of "independent" is not affiliated with any specific political viewpoint. The strategists are going to have to get to work on the problem, since there are now more independents than either Democrats or Republicans. #barackobama
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More like buffalo-winger with tangy blue cheese on top. Yummie. #barackobama
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Earlier, I tried to find Bush's reaction to the 2001 election, but after 15 minutes, I had to give up.
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I'll add that if there was any time that VA and NJ were going to break their pattern of choosing the opposite party, one month after 9/11 would have been that time. But they didn't. #barackobama
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The Newark Star Ledger had a picture of a Hoboken Condo (where the Gov lives???) with a banner draping virtually the entire building with the tag line of "Column A All the Way"
Essex, Hudson, Bergen, Camden, etc. counties traditionally vote for democrats. They did so last night. Essex and Hudson were 68% Corzine.
Union shocked most people when it went 51% Corzine and 43% Christie. Union was expected to have a 30 point gap. Similarly, Bergen, the most populous county, was about 50/50.
Yes property tax was the main issue. However, many voters saw Gov Corzine's progressive policies as the source of the skyrocketing rates. [I got it, most ppty tax is municipal, not state]. For example, the NJ legislative budget office put a $20,000,0000,000 price tag on his COAH initiative.
His inability / unwillingness to address the key issues of his 2004 election also sealed his fate. 1) Did not bring transparency. He actually went to the NJ Supreme Court to shield his email to his ex-girlfriend labor leader. 2) He failed to rein in corruption. Instead, he (and his foundations) contributed to organizations and/or campaigns managed by many of the indicted. 3) He did nothing for property tax. Hew was seen as the person who piled on more programs. Before responding, I am not judging the merits of his programs -- many I support.
It was his arrogance that alienated many democratic voters. #barackobama
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