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Anticipation for Sex That Never Comes Is Highlight of Twilight
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11/17/08
Srsly, hours and hours of hysterical laughter await you here. I love Cleolinda like biscuits and gravy. SO. MUCH.
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The most inspired twist on vampire backstory came packaged in B-movie schlock. The 2000 version of Dracula, with the guy who played Leonides in 300 playing Dracula, portrayed him as Judas Iscariot condemned to hang around earth for his misbehavior in the bronze age Middle East. Like the Wandering Jew. Clever!
As for this Twilight business, teen girls would do better to read Byron and listen to Nick Cave for a taste of real-deal Romantic immortality.
11/15/08
is the choice for most tweens between Byron and Meyers though honestly? Most likely it's between Meyers and crap on Nickelodeon.
I can't help but wonder if us jaded adults are sorta missing the point of why young girls are so into these stories. We see the less-than-stellar writing and uptight moral themes.
But think about a young girl of 13 however. Where a lot of girls her age already expected to give boys bjs the way I gave out kisses at that age 15 years ago. Where sex is expected with so little effort or connection for the most part. I have next door neighbor girls who tell me what middle school is like. And if you aren't giving the bjs out, you are seen as uptight.
If that's what a girl's world is like nowadays, where sex is treated like a social bargaining chip in middle school, Edward effing Cullen is probably looking really good to them. He's the bff/bf who isn't gonna ask them to go down on their knees in the bathroom of a friend's house while you've got 8 other friends on the other side of the door goading you on(actual story from said neighbor kid, and she's like the honor classes type of kid, not the "fast" gal).
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I don't know if I find it more or less depressing than the fact that there are people who adore and idolise Sarah Palin.
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That said--what's wrong with a 15 or 16 year-old not having sex, so long as they are informed (or at least, can honest-to-God tell themselves, "Before ANYTHING happens I am going to have a map to avoid getting STIS/pregnant, and going to deal with my GF/BF")?
Considering that the whole relationship is predicated on Edward as inhumanly handsome and brooding, while Bella is...what?...there must be sexuality and sexual tension.
Not every sixteen or seventeen year-old (girl, at least) wants to lose it in high school.
That said...the two leads look f*cking hot in that photo with the formal wear. And off-camera, Kristin is beautiful and Robert is...stinky.
11/15/08
I can't believe I know that, and yes, that would be the problem. It's like Romeo and Juliet except they both become annoying eternal beings?
11/15/08
My 12 yr old and I had a long talk about the series after a couple of comments here said that there were no strong female characters in the books. Sex (age appropriate, I don't want Penthouse in the books) I can deal with, Bella as a constant damsel in distress w/no other females to represent? That I can't condone. However, my too-smart-for-her-own-good daughter informed me that in this latest book, Bella does in fact become the hero.
Plus, they've already moved on. Now the new thing is The Dark Night series. Sorry, Alex, you know how kids are!
11/15/08
I just finished Twilight right now. I don't know if it would have honestly appealed to me as a tween or teen(I took myself way too seriously back then and would have probably been too much of a snob to like them)...BUT I actually find the females strong in the book. The lead character is physically weak, but she's hanging out with supernatural beings in comparison. But she's actually the stronger and more resilient between the two lovers. The vampire guy is an emotional wreck and going back and forth about what to do, and she's the one to basically challenge him to step up. And at the end, she basically takes on a vampire who wants to kill her to save her mom. I think the "damsel in distress" characterizations are somewhat bogus after reading it.
It's not required reading by any stretch, but I think it's more unhealthy to read Wuthering Heights than this book.
11/15/08
@maude_flanders: Thank you! I've got quite an extraordinary kid. Though she's team Taylor Swift all the way in the battle against the Jonas kid, she also can't stand most of the stereotypical "girl" things that she's supposed to like. She's far too literal to buy into most romanticized things, so her enjoyment of Twilight is actually a bit of a surprise to me.
11/15/08
The book is TOTAL porn. But, not the scary kind with dicks. The kind that's PERFECT for teenage girls, which is all about getting off on the pain of loving someone so hard and not being able to have him. Which is a sexual feeling, even though that makes no sense to dudes. But in reality, you cannot have your idol because you are hideous and unpopular, not because HE LOVES YOU TOO MUCH TO EVER ENDANGER YOU WITH HIS LOOOOOOOVE, but the good/bad feeling is much the same.
I don't think this is healthy at all. But if you are raised to fear men as rapey, etc and be ashamed of your sexual feelings as making you dirty and worthless, you end up liking this book. Yaaaaaaay.
Hopefully, now that we have elected our first sexy president, this will change, or, Change.
11/16/08
You've actually made me think.
11/16/08
I love this. I love this because it's true. *vivid flashback to high school*
Another teenage girl thing dudes don't get: dry humping.
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I realize it's weird to others who didn't grow up in such conservative settings, but I did.
And the interesting thing is when young people aren't getting laid, the sexual energy is pretty electric--it makes you thinkg about it more.
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1.) Turn the Rubik's cube until all the faces are the same color
2.) Set your Rubik's cube on your desk and never touch it again.
3.) Occasionally look at the cube, sigh, and say "Isn't this nice?"
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(Yeah, that's the way we did things in my family. Old habits die hard.)
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Pass.
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I haven't read these books (from a lot of what I've read, they seem to be kinda anti-female, and I'm not a self-loathing tween girl anymore, so I don't need that), but this seems to be the case with this author.
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I am not kidding.
11/15/08
I also haven't read the books and I skimmed this post (Really, how much time do I have in the day?) but I think they should rename that TV old series that's being remade into a movie:
Very Light Shadows.
It seems to pale by comparison with this.
And is Alex a teenage girl? I had no idea.
11/15/08
I know. They should turn to pulverized gray-silver dust like Kirsten Dunst and the surrogate Mommy vampire in Interview with the Vampire.
11/15/08
And crosses.
And silver stakes.
And returning each day to a coffin buried in the soil of your craggy Carpathian birthplace, even if it had to be specially shipped to ancient English abbey.
I have to read the book one day and see how much of this is Stoker.
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Probably very little of this is Stoker, hence all the lameness.
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