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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/18/09

    In reply to Reality Check: 80% Won't Pay for Online Content (And the Other 20% Are Probably Lying)
    When I was a child, movie theater marquees were emblazoned with the slogan 'STOP PAY TV!" That didn't work, and pay TV seems to be doing just fine. #newscorporation
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reality Check: 80% Won't Pay for Online Content (And the Other 20% Are Probably Lying)
    The death of print is not a good thing, nor is it progress. The internet itself is not free. You don't have to pay to browse titles at a newsstand. We don't yet have the answer to the question: what replaces print news?

    People are NOT meant to sit and stare at electronic screens all day. They just aren't. #newscorporation
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    11/17/09

    @unclevanya: Honestly with the advent of E-paper like Kindle, I don't think the difference between reading news on paper versus screens will be very big. #newscorporation
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    11/17/09

    @ostartero: NASA spent millions developing a pen that would write in space. The Russians took pencils.

    The story may be apocryphal, but the lesson isn't. People who still can't access (or afford) the internet or own digital cable still have no idea what a Kindle is, or why it is allegedly better than picking up a newspaper or book.
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reality Check: 80% Won't Pay for Online Content (And the Other 20% Are Probably Lying)
    Whether or not people say they're going to pay is irrelevant. The will pay, and it'll just be some tough shit if they don't want to. Because they won't have anything to look at otherwise.

    That's the great thing about being a media mogul. You can make people do stuff "just 'cuz".

    Also, it needs to be reiterated every time this story appears on this site (which is maybe two or three times a week), Gawker has a vested interest in content not going behind a paywall. Articles like these are opinion pieces more than anything resembling journalism (I know, it's Gawker, journalism doesn't come into it). #newscorporation
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    Image of Joe Mitchell's Secret Joe Mitchell's Secret
    11/18/09

    @lionel-mandrake: Let's all hope so. #newscorporation
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reality Check: 80% Won't Pay for Online Content (And the Other 20% Are Probably Lying)
    The hook to sell paywall stuff is "Quality" but does anyone remember the big, expensive studies that Chris Whittle ran which determined that people would not pay more for literary or journalistic quality?

    Just me then?

    Also: since when have those been hallmarks of the Murdockian realm anyway? #newscorporation
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    Image of themediatrix themediatrix
    11/18/09

    @raincoaster: The New Yorker costs more than Vanity Fair. #newscorporation
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/18/09

    @themediatrix: Does it really? I wouldn't know; haven't bought it in years. #newscorporation
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    Image of themediatrix themediatrix
    11/18/09

    @raincoaster: Yes - I have a press subscription but even with that it's more. So -- I'm curious -- what is it that you pay more for in order to get that "literary or journalistic quality?"
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/18/09

    @themediatrix: I have a terrible crush on Michael Lewis, and I have always loved the rich douches up on charges beat that used to be Dominick Dunne's.

    If I want literature, I read Granta. If I want creative, interesting nonfiction, I read Maisonneuve.
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    11/19/09

    @raincoaster: Dunne's beat = guilty pleasure.

    Most memorable piece I read in Granta was in fact, creative non-fiction: "Death of a Harvard Man" by Simon Schama. I'll never forget it.

    Not familiar with Maisonneuve. I'll never give up my New Yorker, though. I'll always love it.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/19/09

    @themediatrix: Maisonneuve is really one of the best things out there, but it's a Canadian rag and subject to funding cuts. Pick it up if you see it somewhere. It's blissfully free of that wistful/Existential/prairie childhood reminiscences disease that most other creative nonfiction mags are enslaved to.

    I used to pay for the Tatler, a huge premium, but that was back ten years or more, when it was, you know, good.
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    11/19/09

    @raincoaster: Will definitely keep an eye out for it.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/19/09

    @themediatrix: [maisonneuve.org]
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    11/17/09

    In reply to Reality Check: 80% Won't Pay for Online Content (And the Other 20% Are Probably Lying)
    It is a matter of public record that in the Earp household in Tombstone, circa 1880, Wyatt took every regional newspaper and sat down in the den upon the pile not to include the one he was scanning. He was looking for his own name. That's all. He would release the Epigraph and the Benson Bugle to the household when he had searched them, and not before, and this on the authority of Mrs Virgil Earp herself.

    Back when news was a nickel, he could do that with just his poker winnings. But if prices went up, he, like the rest of us,would study just how much of the papers he actually read. Not much. Nobody reads it all, and most skip quite a bit, like browsing online, which is why it would be hard to sell Wyatt on paying a higher price when all he wants to see is two words, and if they ain't there, the paper's worthless. #newscorporation
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    Image of Shadowlayer Shadowlayer
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    He's actually right, about ads: if you take all of the spammer shit out (which is low-yield anyway) there's just not enough ad money to fuel every news site on the internet.

    Of course you can work things out, but that would require entire sites like gawker and such to be run by no more than 5 guys as a side-business from their homes, without offices, parties or any fancy shit like say a salary.

    And BTW, it's PROTIP, havent you ever read a Gamepro?
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    I am all for less availability of NewsCorp. web sites. Starting today. #rupertmurdoch
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    Image of kimsama kimsama
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    You can use this genius strategy even if you have a bricks-and-mortar store:

    1. Destroy all the roads to your store
    2. Eliminate signs/GPS signal that might lead people there
    3. Raise prices
    4.????
    5. PROFIT #rupertmurdoch
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    I am interested always in the proposition that nothing can be lest it first appear in Dilbert. Like, the pointy-headed boss orders: "Run me a hard copy of the internets; I'm gonna do some serious browsing tonight." #rupertmurdoch
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    Image of xyzpdq xyzpdq
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    1. That hottie interviewer is totally lickable.

    2. I detest Murdoch, but the Aussie accent humanizes him.

    3. I hope power is the greatest aphrodisiac, because Wendy Deng probably needs a lot of it to do the horizontal bop with Rupert. #rupertmurdoch
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    This is perhaps the saddest day ever. First we learn that Sex Goddess Andrea Peyser is only being read by a mere 500,000 people, and now we are being threatened with the possibility that Sex Goddess Andrea Peyser might not appear on Google searches. Oh the humanity! #rupertmurdoch
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    Will my next Sapartacus Guide be covering faygeleh favelas? #myspace
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    Image of Jackson West Jackson West
    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    Is favela chic sort of like heroin chic, but with more rhythm? If so, I'm in. #myspace
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    We are all favelas now. #myspace
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    Image of BunnySkull BunnySkull
    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    What's this future crap? MySpace has been a shantytown for the unemployed (& aesthetically impaired) for ages. #myspace
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