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    Image of Shadowlayer Shadowlayer
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    He's actually right, about ads: if you take all of the spammer shit out (which is low-yield anyway) there's just not enough ad money to fuel every news site on the internet.

    Of course you can work things out, but that would require entire sites like gawker and such to be run by no more than 5 guys as a side-business from their homes, without offices, parties or any fancy shit like say a salary.

    And BTW, it's PROTIP, havent you ever read a Gamepro?
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    I am all for less availability of NewsCorp. web sites. Starting today. #rupertmurdoch
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    You can use this genius strategy even if you have a bricks-and-mortar store:

    1. Destroy all the roads to your store
    2. Eliminate signs/GPS signal that might lead people there
    3. Raise prices
    4.????
    5. PROFIT #rupertmurdoch
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    I am interested always in the proposition that nothing can be lest it first appear in Dilbert. Like, the pointy-headed boss orders: "Run me a hard copy of the internets; I'm gonna do some serious browsing tonight." #rupertmurdoch
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    11/09/09

    In reply to Old People Talking About the Internet: Rupert Murdoch Edition
    This is perhaps the saddest day ever. First we learn that Sex Goddess Andrea Peyser is only being read by a mere 500,000 people, and now we are being threatened with the possibility that Sex Goddess Andrea Peyser might not appear on Google searches. Oh the humanity! #rupertmurdoch
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    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    Will my next Sapartacus Guide be covering faygeleh favelas? #myspace
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    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    Is favela chic sort of like heroin chic, but with more rhythm? If so, I'm in. #myspace
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    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    We are all favelas now. #myspace
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    Image of BunnySkull BunnySkull
    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    What's this future crap? MySpace has been a shantytown for the unemployed (& aesthetically impaired) for ages. #myspace
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    11/03/09

    In reply to MySpace's Future: Online Slum for Depression Refugees
    Depends. How's the MySpace feijoada? #myspace
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    11/03/09

    @BadUncle: It's impossible to find farofa on Facebook. #myspace
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    10/22/09

    In reply to Pretty Boy MySpace CEO Has Dumb Surrender Plan
    I've been saying this for years. MySpace accidentally became the choice place for bands but they took so long to develop that.

    The challenge is however, joining both worlds of user profile and band profiles. I would rather only have bands on MySpace because it can be a powerful marketing tool.

    Lastly, I would probably change the name because MySpace is synonymous with failure since the rise of Facebook. #myspace
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    10/22/09

    @Cheap Shot: I think the name thing is key. If they insist on retaining personal profiles, those that are for musicians would need their own clean & cultivated name, and it had better not be MyMusic. #myspace
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    10/22/09

    In reply to Pretty Boy MySpace CEO Has Dumb Surrender Plan
    There is no way Myspace can even hope to compete with anybody unless they completely overhaul their site so it (a) works and (b) doesn't look like junk.

    Even if they do this, I think they're far, far too late to (their own) party. #myspace
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/22/09

    In reply to Pretty Boy MySpace CEO Has Dumb Surrender Plan
    They also have a market for crazies who inevitably end up killing someone or doing something outrageous and gossipy sites post things found on their myspace as proof. That's the real reason for myspace. #myspace
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    10/22/09

    In reply to Pretty Boy MySpace CEO Has Dumb Surrender Plan
    This is good but you are omitting the stuff-white-people-like element. NPR had that this morning: "'I have friends who are white,' says 19-year-old Diego Luna. 'They are my white people friends and they are mostly on Facebook. That’s why I use Facebook. My brown people are on MySpace.'" #myspace
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    Image of Wrapitup Wrapitup
    10/22/09

    @Peter Feld: This is very interesting. Do you think it's a race thing or a class thing? In my experience, Facebook is more of a white-collar, professional space, perhaps because of the founder's background and outlook? It did start out as a place for college kids.

    MySpace has more of a blue collar, working-class ethos. Which is not to say something false like people from working-class backgrounds are content with shitty design. I wonder if it's more like design plays avery strong role in defining the socioeconomic class of a place. And people's backgrounds play a really strong role in defining which places they feel uncomfortable in.

    It may be that a lot of working class people are put off by Facebook's design because while it is clean, it doesn't seem welcoming and inclusive. There is something exclusive about the severe and stark white and blue color scheme and the serif-less fonts. #myspace
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    Image of Peter Feld Peter Feld
    10/22/09

    @Wrapitup: Everything you said makes sense - not everyone dislikes the cluttered but flexible MySpace design. Certainly professionals do, but other people might find it appealing or fun to work with. (Certainly that was its original appeal.) But the main driver of using a social network is: where are your friends? If everyone you know is on MySpace (or FB or wherever), that will be a more important consideration than design. #myspace
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    Image of Wrapitup Wrapitup
    10/21/09

    In reply to Pretty Boy MySpace CEO Has Dumb Surrender Plan
    Thanks for an interesting post, Ryan. While I disagree that dropping out of college is necessarily evidence of incompetence, I agree with the rest of your post. I agree with Uncle Billy about why Facebook kicked MySpace's ass. So why didn't the bigwigs at MySpace just design a whole new layout and cancel the option for users to design their own (ugly-ass) pages? For me, the question is why on earth MySpace is so wedded to their failing design concept. Do you have any thoughts on that?

    It may be that the MySpace head honchos understand the music business better than they understand how to provide a coherent and attractive visual experience for their viewers. But then again, their stubbornness in sticking with a failing system and resistance to necessary change is cause for concern. #myspace
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    10/21/09

    @Wrapitup: It could be a case where they realize they've simply missed the boat. At this point if they drop the user-controlled layout scheme, they will drive away those eggheads who prefer such ugly design while at the same time trying to woo back people who were already driven away by the clutter. The customizable pages are awful, mind-numbing burdens on the senses, but I'd be willing to suspect that the reason that most of the teenagers who still use MySpace over Facebook do so because of this option.

    The company is definitely grasping at straws, but I think they're playing to their one strength, which Betty Draper mentions below: it's just easier to look for music on MySpace than Facebook. It's all they've got, and frankly, as someone who has no investment or faith in the company to begin with, the fact that that makes me nervous says tons about where MySpace is at these days. #myspace
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    Image of Betty Draper Betty Draper
    10/22/09

    @ampersandparade: Regardless, the fact that any of us could have told Van Natta a few years ago what he is just realizing now, is not a good sign. #myspace
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