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daveyjonesisdead
11/03/09

In reply to Wall Street Journal Takes on Local News
Well, I have been wondering what's going on at Community Board meetings in Ridgewood.

But seriously - why take a perfectly good business and finance paper and turn it into something else? #wallstreetjournal
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TheBusinessGuy
11/03/09

@daveyjonesisdead: Yes, the city is hungering for another general interest newspaper. Just ask the former employees of New York Newsday and the Sun. #wallstreetjournal
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TheBusinessGuy
11/03/09

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Wait: are you implying that the Times has serious local news coverage? That's a much bigger story! Who knew? #wallstreetjournal
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
07/09/09

In reply to Rupert Murdoch's UK Papers in Huge Phone Hacking Scandal
So is this why Rupert and Vivi Nevo are friends?
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skahammer
07/09/09

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What exactly does "cellphone hacking" involve, anyway? Can't you pick up cellphone transmissions with shortwave radios and the like?
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gooneruk
07/09/09

@skahammer: What they actually did was get into the voicemails of a mobile phone. They couldn't listen to calls live, see what numbers were called/calling, nor read incoming/outgoing text messages.

The private investigator(s) hired by the journos simply dialled the mobile phone number, and then when it went to voicemail they used the network standard PIN to log in as if they were the phone's owner. Most people don't change that PIN (or know how to), so the investigator then had access to all of the voicemails for that mobile phone.

Then it was a simple case of logging in every day or so to listen/transcribe, and then use that info for stories.

At no time were live phone calls bugged or eavesdropped on. And it's not really a hack. It's taking advantage of people not changing their PINs, the same as people who use "password" as their, erm, password.
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Aaron Altman
07/09/09

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Any bets that an investigation is already underway here in the US as to what Murdoch's news ops are up to? I mean, I DOUBT that, say, any decent Post or Fox News reporter would let this happen if they knew it was going on, but the HP "pretexting" case has surely made the Feds less tolerant about this sort of thing.

Either way, oy veysmir.
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Limitedappeal
07/09/09

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So our newspapers are keeping phonetapping secrets and the head of MI6 is putting everything on facebook. What a hilarious mix-up!
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BBooms
07/09/09

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Looks like this summer is shaping up to be the age of reckoning for the hypocritical lowlifes who make up the conservative movement. About fucking time.
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Choire
07/09/09

@BBooms: Seriously. Except Murdoch & Co. may get off easy-peasy free. It's astounding though, isn't it? To see a media company operating like the NSA? I have to say, I am really jaded and my mind is BLOWN over this.
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Pope John Peeps II
07/09/09

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Hmm. A Baron of Business found to have so much hubris that they start to simply flout the law, believing themselves to be untouchable. After the Conrad Black case, there's a lot of reason to think that if this actually does go to trial then maybe even Murdoch himself will be held accountable.
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aMagnificentBasterd
07/09/09

@Pope John Peeps II:

Who is going to arrest Murdoch? He will be deep in his bunker underneath Ayers Rock.
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Xylo
07/09/09

@aMagnificentBasterd: It's aboriginal land nowadays, isn't it? It'd be expensive to be beholden to them, heh heh.
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fileunder
07/06/09

In reply to Washington Post Screwed Up Bad, Reports New York Times Over and Over
Fight, ombudsmen, fight!
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Aaron Altman
07/06/09

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I think the Post should just order up a Weekender sub and be done with it.
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Perhaps Not
07/06/09

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I honestly don't remember - did the Post shit a brick over Judy Miller? Somebody should have, certainly.
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J. Henry Waugh
07/06/09

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When in doubt, blame the flier.
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MisterHippity
07/06/09

Damn those overzealous underlings! They cause so many big organizations to screw up!

Remember the Abu Graib torturings? Overzealous underlings ... again! They're everywhere, and their screwups are legendary!
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SidAndFinancy
07/06/09

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NYT: "WP went (morally) bankrupt first!"
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naugahydeinplainsight
07/06/09

In reply to Washington Post Screwed Up Bad, Reports New York Times Over and Over
And Pinch and the edit side of the Times will give the Post plenty of opportunity for payback. "Suck my hot type and die"? Revenge is a dish best served in cold type.
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MisterHippity
07/06/09

In reply to Washington Post Screwed Up Bad, Reports New York Times Over and Over
To the Times' credit, this stance on Washington Post's apology (not strong enough) is consistent with the way the Times has historically behaved when it has to apologize itself.

When the Times does one of it's own "sorry statements," it goes all out. It apologizes profusely, and then apologizes some more. It wears a three hair shirts, grovels and says "we are not worthy of being read by you ever again, we are so ashamed and VERY SORRY!" Then it bangs its head against the floor repeatedly.

When it comes to apologies, the New York Times is kind of like the Dobby of newspapers.

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