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Did people get mad about this?:
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this is a beautiful ad.
tragedy happens to all of us, in one form or another. i was mugged and badly beaten on the subway within the first six months of moving to NYC by no fault of my own except being in the wrong place at the wrong time. am i offended every time i see political cartoon using a mugging as a metaphor? no. and i didn't leave NYC screaming in fear. i rode the same subway line for 10 years.
9/11 happened to me too, and i've moved well beyond it. in fact i conduct a media moratorium every year on 9/11. turn off ALL the media, because i'm over it. it's about time 9/11 stop being used as a crutch and a misery exploit and start being used as a moment in history to learn from... not weep from. move up and onward.
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Did 911 "happen" to you because you were right there (at or right near the WTC), or because you happened to be somewhere in the NYC area that day?
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my story would not be much different than the thousands of others like myself who felt it, saw it, heard it and smelt it in person.... and knew people who didn't live past that day. not the point here. i don't want your saracastic sympathy. nor do i choose to relive that entire day as the media thinks is should be. heal how you want. i don't agree on how it's used in the aftermath.
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Now I'm confused. First you were telling me to get over it, and now you're giving me permission to deal with it as I see fit.
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And it probably really ran.
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They (the Russians that made this ad) are not as sensitive to the issue as you are. But I doubt they were trying to get YOU to buy a subscription to the Moscow News. So, they really don't give two rat farts about what you think. I may be wrong, commence your paint-chip chewing.
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@LeeMarvinsPants: I know you were making a rhetorical point, but I found it to be a completely invalid comparison and chose to respond to it. I think (at least some) Russians are about as sensitive to this issue as I am (read my above response). Some might even be more sensitive if they had relatives who were directly affected.
At what point did I imply that this ad was in any way aimed toward me? You completely missed my point. Also, you sound like an idiot relying on the old paint-chip-eating insult.
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@Spirit Fingers: That photo always gets my goat and I certainly wasn't alive during the Vietnam War. I wish it were better known that it was taken by a Vietnamese-born photographer, Nick Ut, who still works for Associated Press.
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I might be the polar opposite in some ways and maybe not so much in others. I don't make a very good follower of any particular ideology.
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NY, U.S.: Get over yourselves.
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That said, what a crass way to express your admittedly valid point.
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What's that? Oh, okay, cause they "don't exist". Whatever you say, crybabies.
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I may be a little rusty on my math here but I'm pretty sure that the formula (Tragedy + Time) = Comedy is only valid if Time ≥ 1 generation.
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Does anybody stop to think that this incessant need to believe our tragedies outrank other people's tragedies is sorta why we keep getting into these wars?
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And I think you missed who was being made fun of in that Fawlty Towers clip.
Hasta, Jose.
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End of earnest.
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Does it occur to you that it might be possible to be *for* civil rights, *against* the illegal & senseless wars done in the name of 9/11 and still mourn our fellow citizens who were senselessly slaughtered on that day (in DC, PA *and* NYC) and grieve with their families who survive them? You know, like every time you pass a fire station and see the photos of the young men who needlessly died on that day?
Because the above description actually describes most New Yorkers. There are polls and everything that show that whatever "countrymen" you are accusing of these horrible crimes deserving of your scorn are not actually in the majority here.
But hey, I'm for freedom of speech even for assholes & I hope they find their target market with these tasteful ads. Your pointless bitterness is your own pill that won't wash down my friend. Enjoy it in good health.
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One more time, so that I'm absolutely clear.
Go fuck yourself. Sideways.
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OK, how's this? I think there's a fundamental error in trying to find moral equivalency between an act of God, over which we have no control, like the 2004 Asian Tsunami, and an act of man, over which we have ample control, like the attacks of 9/11.
There wasn't any room for moral outrage with the Tsunami itself. The outrage came with the inaction of the governments of Burma and Indonesia. Whereas there was ample room for outrage with the all-to-human powers that caused 9/11 to happen.
Also, just so we're clear, I'm more outraged and upset by Hurricane Katrina (act of God) and what this country's gross neglect and racism allowed to happen after that tragedy occurred (act of man), than I am by the events of 9/11.
For full discolsure, I happened to live a mile downwind from the TWC, and my downstairs neighbor was a fireman who didn't come home that day.
So, to you I also say, go fuck yourself.
Is that "literally" enough for you?
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Mind you, I only stated my personal connection with all this for the sake of disclosure (read: honesty).
You, obviously, didn't absorb anything else I said.
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Adfreak links to a 2003 campaign for MTV that, like the WWF one, compares death tolls while using 9/11 imagery. It also was done by an agency in Brazil, which raises the question: WTF, Brazil??
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