The NSA has a long history in advising to non-government security standards. Schneier's "Applied Cryptography" notes that several of the fundamental constants of the DES algorithm were contributed by the NSA; they were viewed with some suspicion until many years later, when it was discovered that they made the algorithm suspiciously resilient in the face of a cryptanalytic attack that was not publicly known at the time of the standard's creation.
apart from the privacy aspects - and I have no doubt the collaboration did not enhance privacy - why does the government cooperate with some companies and not others? Why does the NSA get to choose which ventures to provide its expertise to? This is just the powerful helping the powerful, on our dime and at our expense.
Based on the 'takes one to know one' principle, I reckon the NSA should have had some important insight on maintaining privacy. Maybe they also collaborated with Microsoft in planting a few 'backdoors' for national security purposes...
My husband works for the Navy, and my understanding is that each branch of the military has it's own ISP, and that traffic into the military networks is highly controlled for security reasons. My husband cannot use an internet-based email account, for example. He is also unable to access many websites from work.
This NSA monitoring seems like a way to create a similar set of security parameters for civilian agencies who are working with the military, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm not a cybersecurity expert either, but the description you've provided doesn't seem that sinister in light of what I know about how the military systems are run.
Or, this could be just another step towards BIG BROTHER!!!!! I'm keeping my tinfoil hat on the shelf for the moment, though.
@I Love New Jersey: You hate the Obama administration. You defend the most asinine crap from the right. You didn't even bother to attempt an understanding of this issue. Your comment is irrelevant.
mmm i'll be the first to say 'hey, none of your business, back off' but the fact that obama just isn't wiping this whole thing out, the fact that he's carefully looking at what to keep, what not to keep, says something.
he said something a while back about how 'sobering' it was to finally get those presidential security briefings.
let's just hope we got the right captain steering the ship.
Congratulations. Of all the Bush administration policies the Obama administration has opted to continue, you've found the one I don't really care about.
I was just wondering what the invention of the term "Hashtag" had done to the internet-monitoring, particularly searches for drug-related terms. For at least a while, I'm sure we broke the NSA's program, if only by accident.
I listened to the NPR interview in the car yesterday and almost drove off the road I was laughing so hard. "We don't know if there was a phone call" is pure gold.
But, Republican or Democrat, this hack should resign. But not before she tells us which AIPAC agent has the power to dole out congressional chairs. Much more so than any communist conspiracy Joe McCarthy ever dreamed up, AIPAC truly is the enemy within.
@CountryClubRepublican: Of course, it's troubling that the Obama administration has gone along with that venal fuck George Bush's gutting of the Constitution. But let's face it, that gutting was enthusiastically embraced by dumb fucking assholes just like you at the time. Because why? You always thought your party would be in the executive so it just didn't matter?
But that's not why I called you out. I called you a dumb fucking shitheel because you juxtaposed that classy one-liner with a post completely unrelated to the Obama administration. So, yeah, you're still dumb.
Harman also told Siegal that she was pissed that she wasn't given a heads up about the wiretap -- she actually insinuated that people can't be wiretapped until they're aware that they're under investigation. Siegal was like, "Wha??"
It's a problem when AIPAC can bribe some tanker with a charimanship if she uses her White House contacts to protect their spies, but only one. I'll bet that happens all the time. I'm more concerned that the Likud Lobby can decide when and if we go to war. Our foreign policy is dictated by AIPAC. One corrupt shill more or less isn't a major story.
Meanwhile, in other news, there were five (5) senators with the guts to refuse to sign on to the resolution honoring the brave troops who made a stand against terrorism in Gaza. It's the most craven legislature this side of the Kremlin, and I wonder if that will change.
11/20/09
More recently, there was this: [en.wikipedia.org]
The purpose of this collaboration is unknown, but it is not new news.
11/20/09
Corps and end users really don't care where their data will end up -- at least our wonderful government *does*.
This evolutionary move just warms my blackened heart.
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This NSA monitoring seems like a way to create a similar set of security parameters for civilian agencies who are working with the military, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm not a cybersecurity expert either, but the description you've provided doesn't seem that sinister in light of what I know about how the military systems are run.
Or, this could be just another step towards BIG BROTHER!!!!! I'm keeping my tinfoil hat on the shelf for the moment, though.
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07/02/09
he said something a while back about how 'sobering' it was to finally get those presidential security briefings.
let's just hope we got the right captain steering the ship.
07/02/09
Who's Next?
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delayed for months as the Obama administration determines what elements of the Bush plan to preserve
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If you're going to save American lives you need to sit on a story sometimes.
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But, Republican or Democrat, this hack should resign. But not before she tells us which AIPAC agent has the power to dole out congressional chairs. Much more so than any communist conspiracy Joe McCarthy ever dreamed up, AIPAC truly is the enemy within.
04/22/09
@Mediahohoho:
"We'll have to find out when it happens, dumb fuck."
ORLY?
"Obama Administration Embraces Bush Position on Warrantless Wiretapping and Secrecy"
[www.eff.org]
"Attorney General Eric Holder went to the national security court to seek a renewal of the surveillance program ..."
[www.politifact.com]
If I'm a dumbfuck, and I know more than you, what does that make you?
04/22/09
But that's not why I called you out. I called you a dumb fucking shitheel because you juxtaposed that classy one-liner with a post completely unrelated to the Obama administration. So, yeah, you're still dumb.
04/22/09
04/21/09
Meanwhile, in other news, there were five (5) senators with the guts to refuse to sign on to the resolution honoring the brave troops who made a stand against terrorism in Gaza. It's the most craven legislature this side of the Kremlin, and I wonder if that will change.