Haven't most actual experts on health policy agreed that higher subsidies are both more important and more effective than the toothless public option they were going to pass?
Some brave senator needs to attach a rider to the health care bill mandating that Congress health plans are voided for any congressmen voting against the Public Option.
Since Government-Paid Health care is such an abomination, of course.
I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing for Medicare recipients supporting plans to kill the Public Option, same rationale.
@sarrible: Senator Franken has already made the GOP senators sad by mocking them for their support for the Contractor-Rapist Protection Bill. It'd be great if he made them downright unhappy.
@Trai_Dep: God, I love that. It'll make my year if he gets up on the floor and tells the gentleman from Texas to pull up his big-boy pants and stop crying like a slapped child because votes have consequences.
The uncoupling of insurance from employment and some type of public option are absolutely INEVITABLE in the long term.
The only questions left are how we get from here to there. Getting those things will be a lot easier if we can get some kind of reform accomplished this year.
So don't go jumping off bridges just yet, libtards!
Art of the possible my eye, Rahm. This is why you needed to go big, or go home. A psuedo-agency birthed out of a failure to realize a comprehensive state-run solution is exactly what everyone fears, the exact opposite of the transcendant social commitment to health care that a real reform would have represented. They should have dug in on a single-payer plan or done nothing; declaring victory over a private subsidy requiring that everyone pay for care will be as hollow as it gets.
I don't know about everyone listed, but Arlen Specter was on television last Sunday and to me, he sounds unequivocal in his support for the public option.
@formergr: Yeah, right after I wrote that, I thought, "Oops. Well, someone will call me out on this shortly." I just really like writing "Diane Savino rules" wherever possible, and I feel creepy doing it on Facebook now because we're FB BFFs.
Commentators have been calling the death of the public option for months and months. And yet, it lives. You're being led astray by noise and shadows and people who make a living out of making things dramatic. Look back at what's happened since this all started, appreciate the process and come to the only reasonable conclusion: there will be a robust public option in the legislation Obama signs.
@marin79: Warner was a cap in many NoVa people's cap but he's a business man first.
Mark hasn't made much noise since he's been inaugurated and he's never been much of a liberal. This seems like a clear attempt to maintain his centrist credibility (Virginians love them some moneyed centrists!) and considering his lowly position, and his longer term goals, he's not going to start calling out for single payer.
@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: my friend just went down south for a $1500 nose job (very subtle, well done) and he still has his kidneys and he didn't have to dodge any bullets.
@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.:
The Mexican government is working on making their public insurance plan available to Mex citizens for treatment in the US next year. After all the fuss about "illegals", many will have a public option. Too bad for the rest of us.
In the meantime cross over to Mexico with a bag of cash or credit card for the treatment you need. Or buy into public insurance with a resident visa in Mexico.
I appreciate John Waters, but I don't understand pursuing any relationship or friendship with these women - on any level. I know that he embraces and celebrates the seedier and more transgressive elements in our culture in his films, but these individuals or neither marginal nor misunderstood, they did a very evil thing, as evil as evil can be.
They tortured and murdered seven innocent people, and expressed no remorse nor fully admitted to their wrongdoing in a public forum. My mother was 9 months pregnant with my older brother,her first child, in August 1969, and I cannot help imagining her murder in the place of Sharon Tate.
I understand that John Waters keeps a painting by John Wayne Gacy above the bed in his guest bedroom, so that "guests do not stay too long". I don't find the humor in this, nor I'm sure do the families of the 33 boys found murdered underneath his floorboards.
Call me humorless... but this extends beyond embracing bad taste. I find it disturbing.
@SudeviUsopp: I honestly don't understand John Waters' motives on a logical level either. But I do admire him greatly, as an artist, which is why I pay attention to what he says and don't discard it off-hand as rubbish. I thought Waters' Leslie Van Houten book moved beyond his usual provocative MO--it's a sincere effort to understand and try to absolve a very, very terrible person who did a terrible, terrible thing, but has since atoned for it. I dunno, it's an interesting thing to contemplate. It brings up interesting questions about the nature of evil, and society's default rules to forgive vs. forget.
@snugbug: I don't think it's rubbish, either, and I agree that the nature of mercy, the capacity for evil and for good, the concept of redemption, etc. are all very worthwhile things to think about and debate.
What bugs me about the excerpts I read is that Waters can't seem to understand why people can't just see the BEAUTY of LVH and let go of that nasty little incident in the past . . . his capacity for compassion for the survivors seemed so much less than his capacity for compassion for the killer. That strikes me as very wrong.
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Since Government-Paid Health care is such an abomination, of course.
I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing for Medicare recipients supporting plans to kill the Public Option, same rationale.
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The only questions left are how we get from here to there. Getting those things will be a lot easier if we can get some kind of reform accomplished this year.
So don't go jumping off bridges just yet, libtards!
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Mark hasn't made much noise since he's been inaugurated and he's never been much of a liberal. This seems like a clear attempt to maintain his centrist credibility (Virginians love them some moneyed centrists!) and considering his lowly position, and his longer term goals, he's not going to start calling out for single payer.
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Yes, but... I think it's all just a big scam to harvest organs.
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The Mexican government is working on making their public insurance plan available to Mex citizens for treatment in the US next year. After all the fuss about "illegals", many will have a public option. Too bad for the rest of us.
In the meantime cross over to Mexico with a bag of cash or credit card for the treatment you need. Or buy into public insurance with a resident visa in Mexico.
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They tortured and murdered seven innocent people, and expressed no remorse nor fully admitted to their wrongdoing in a public forum. My mother was 9 months pregnant with my older brother,her first child, in August 1969, and I cannot help imagining her murder in the place of Sharon Tate.
I understand that John Waters keeps a painting by John Wayne Gacy above the bed in his guest bedroom, so that "guests do not stay too long". I don't find the humor in this, nor I'm sure do the families of the 33 boys found murdered underneath his floorboards.
Call me humorless... but this extends beyond embracing bad taste. I find it disturbing.
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What bugs me about the excerpts I read is that Waters can't seem to understand why people can't just see the BEAUTY of LVH and let go of that nasty little incident in the past . . . his capacity for compassion for the survivors seemed so much less than his capacity for compassion for the killer. That strikes me as very wrong.