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    Is the Tragic Love of Bobby and Jackie a Hoax?

    Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy

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    Image of Baroness Baroness
    07/26/09

    In reply to Is the Tragic Love of Bobby and Jackie a Hoax?
    To answer the question, yes. It's a sensationalistic angle for someone to pick the Kennedy bones, but woeful and placing way to much weight on rumor.

    Despite her tabloid fame (and secret enjoyment of it), sex seems to be the last thing ever on Jackie's mind. If she drew close to Bobby, it was because the entire nation demanded family continuity with the Kennedys. She'd had a pretty tenuous and mercenary connection with the family to begin with. While I believe Jackie did grow fond of JFK after many bumps in the road, Jackie exulted in being First Lady.

    I disbelieve rumors of an affair with RFK sheerly because he was such an unattractive wee bantam of a man. He wasn't Jackie's type at all. But after JFK's murder, I can see them drawing close- but as family. It must be the most underrated and underexplored trope of life and literature, the (non-sexual) bond that a man can have with his brother's wife. And heightened to the extent of the Kennedy dramas of those years- well yes, I can see a bond forming. They'd already been through a lot together, Bobby and Jackie were canny allies. They weren't fools. They probably talked and coordinated the aftermath of JFK's hundreds of infidelities.

    I think they had a bond there, they were friends. Imagining a romance in a tabloid way, - well people will do that. But Bobby was such a boring grind, Jackie eager to flee to her new life- I don't think it's likely. They had deep and fond affection for each other, as inlaws can. And when Bobby was killed, Jackie fled to Onassis for protection. She realized what a dangerous family she was linked to. What a sick deja vù Bobby's murder must have been.
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    Image of dtopping dtopping
    07/26/09

    @Baroness: I can't tell who does a better job of talking out of their ass, you or Heymann. You should totally write a book!
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    Image of PandoraSpocks PandoraSpocks
    07/27/09

    @dtopping: Oh piss off.
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    07/27/09

    @Baroness: Whatever, lady! I want to believe in Bobby awkwardly fingering Jackie by the pool. I've already commissioned a painting of it -- it better be true or this painting will be silly!
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    Image of SaraRueful SaraRueful
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    How on earth did He-Man go from Dolph Lundgren (swoony drooly mmmm) to this guy? Sorry, man, you're no He-Man.
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    Image of depardoo depardoo
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    Judging from that photo, he reads more newspapers than Sarah Palin.
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    Image of onebadclam onebadclam
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    Is he the first confirmed specimen of hipster hobos?
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    "Daddy, is that a Village Person?"


    "No darling, that's what we call a sponge."

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    Image of Baroness Baroness
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    "Pretty soon he was taking up to 16 hits (of LSD) a day. One day the cops were after him so he gobbled all of the 48 tabs in his pocket. It took him a year to recover, he said. Lost his speech. Had trouble walking. It was during this time that he reasoned he should get into weight training and nutrition."


    Yeah, or just stop scorching your brain with tons of acid every day. Jesus fucking Ca-hrist.

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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    05/20/09

    @Baroness: I don't really think there's a middle ground for this kind of person.
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    HamNo! How did you miss this gem:


    "It takes both youse to have great sex," [He-Man] said. "Foreplay is the main thing with women; you gotta warm them up."

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    Image of Kitten_Witawip Kitten_Witawip
    05/20/09

    @BookishLookish: Or the even more astute preceding paragraph:


    "Mr. Nelson said that great sex requires patience and communication. Which is impossible in a coffee shop bathroom or under a blanket in the park."


    this guy rocks.

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    Image of Hydroceph Hydroceph
    05/20/09

    @Kitten_Witawip: Well, of course not in a coffee shop bathroom. I mean, Starbucks? How detumefying.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    I bet HIS moustache isn't ironic.
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    Image of depardoo depardoo
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    Super Squats!


    [gawker.com]

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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    I saw this guy on the subway yesterday. Total urban attention seeker. Even though there were seats he was standing, ostentatiously, in the middle of the car with a flimsy shirt on. Roccoco.
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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    05/20/09

    @RonMwangaguhunga: I wonder why a guy like that wouldn't just settle in a place like Omaha where he could truly be the shit.
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    Image of City_Dater City_Dater
    05/20/09

    @Mama Penguino:


    Because he doesn't need to be "the shit" -- he simply is the way he is, and he lives here because New York is still home for those who probably belong no where else in America. And the floods of dickheads who come here to act out in public because they go to art school or whatever (before they move back to Omaha to be "the shit") cannot begin to equal his casual, odd, majesty.


    *tears up* I love this city...

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    Image of jrhys jrhys
    05/20/09

    @City_Dater: Awww. Also, I heard he's going to eat JA- not eat her out but eat her - when she gets back into town.
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    Image of Mymoustache Mymoustache
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    So he's basically Lennie from Of Mice and Men...
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    05/20/09

    @Mymoustache: HA! or that Looney Tunes Abominable Snowman.
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    Image of depardoo depardoo
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    We should introduce this guy to Kari Ferrell.
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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    Is it wrong that I became slightly flushed and warm as I read that last sentence? Because he's not my type at all, but really, there's one's type and there's one's TYPE.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    05/20/09

    @Mama Penguino: Got a thing for one-eyed junkie douchebags with mullets and a penchant for grave-robbing, huh?


    Well you're just going to have to keep searching because this gem of a man is taken.

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    Image of smartastic smartastic
    05/20/09

    @Mama Penguino: my ex boyfriend was like that, and i mistakenly assumed ALL men were like that given the chance. oh, how wrong i was.
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    05/20/09

    @smartastic: When you find one "like that," grab onto him and hold tight, with whatever appendages you deem appropriate.
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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    05/20/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: To be fair, I'm stranded in Kansas, so I think He-Man is safe, but I have seen a lot of his kind, albeit clothed, in small-town taverns. Sometimes I think Kansas is the only place in the world where the mullet is still the latest thing.
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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    05/20/09

    @Mymoustache: Except he looks like he doesn't give a shit anymore about tending the rabbits.
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    He makes money as a wingman for gays.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    05/20/09

    In reply to Drifter He-Man Not Such A Bad Guy
    What a charming little enchanted glen! Why, who's that I spy!? Why, it's Pan - demigod of fuckwits.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    05/20/09

    @HiredGoons: wow, that's bitchy even for me.
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    Image of i'm a bottle i'm a bottle
    05/20/09

    @HiredGoons: Bitchy, but funny, and that's why you are forgiven.
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    Image of BookishLookish BookishLookish
    05/20/09

    @HiredGoons: Darling, I count on you to bring it. Bravo.
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