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    How Does It Feel When We Call You a Cunt, Jimmy Cayne?

    Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan

    Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes

    Liz Smith's Writing Continues to Appear on Electrically Powered 'Inter-Net'

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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    03/16/09

    In reply to How Does It Feel When We Call You a Cunt, Jimmy Cayne?
    Vaginas worldwide abjure any comparison with Jimmy Cayne.
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    Image of thatsrealbutter thatsrealbutter
    03/16/09

    @Smitros: and they call him a choad
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    03/16/09

    @thatsrealbutter:


    Now choads are looking for a lawyer.


    Perhaps Harlan Ellison's.

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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    03/16/09

    In reply to How Does It Feel When We Call You a Cunt, Jimmy Cayne?
    That is one kid who will never own a scooter.
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    Image of saythatscool saythatscool
    03/16/09

    @SidAndFinancy: or any sense of self worth.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    03/16/09

    In reply to How Does It Feel When We Call You a Cunt, Jimmy Cayne?
    But an email won't help you tickle a foot or play with a cat.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    03/16/09

    @Smitros: Yikes. For a moment I thought you were talking about Liz Smith, and not her writing implement.
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    Image of GuyBitchy GuyBitchy
    03/02/09

    In reply to Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan
    Call me sentimental... but that actually made me like Warren for a moment there.
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    Image of SultanaEleusis SultanaEleusis
    03/02/09

    In reply to Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan
    Liz and Helen Thomas could put out their own newspaper. Call it "Two Old Chicks From Big Cities," or something like that. Buck the trend!
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    03/02/09

    @SultanaEleusis: Grumpy Old Newswomen?
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    Image of gladys_kravitz gladys_kravitz
    03/02/09

    In reply to Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan
    She may not know the inter-nets but her midsection looks fabulous in a t-shirt for someone her age.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    03/02/09

    In reply to Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan
    Let's see...Liz just got fired. Candice Bergen's show just got cancelled. Langella just lost the Oscar. Groban embarrassed himself singing a TV theme medley at last year's Emmy train wreck.


    How about: Own Your Age, Fire Your Agent.

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    Image of Kid Twist Kid Twist
    03/02/09

    In reply to Josh Groban, Candice Bergen, Frank Langella, Other Stars Love Liz Smith More Than Col Allan
    Big deal. I once got mail from Ed McMahon himself.
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    Image of BlinkyMcChuck BlinkyMcChuck
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    She was the first reason I ever read the Post, back in 1991. And she's right, the Post is like Aliens came down. Go Liz!
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    Image of SaraRueful SaraRueful
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    Can one "emasculate" a woman???
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    Image of belltolls belltolls
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    I have always found Gawker kind of literary. There is a book I had for many years which fell apart from use called: The Literary Life, A Scrapbook Almanac of the Angle-American Literary Life. In it there was a quote which I will now butcher (didn't I tell you, my copy fell apart) which goes something like: "all novels at heart have a bit of the tittle-tale in them."
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    Image of Richard Lawson Richard Lawson
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    The funniest thing about being told your job means nothing is when you agree.


    But since when have things needed to mean something? I'm so sick of this qualifying and deal-making with some unseen power. It's a new kind of religion, isn't it? This fear of being held accountable for all these terrible things people have done on the internet in the last fifteen years. But the funny thing is that it really doesn't matter. It's idle, silly chatter. Idle, silly chatter that gets lots of us through the drudgery of the day, through that sad sort of fattening laziness of dissatisfaction that, in years past, made people drink and cheat and drive cars to the edges of town, not sure what to do, after they'd punched out. I dunno. I feel like we move beyond ourselves through the internet, for good and for the awful, awful bad.


    And, hey. Maybe that does mean something. It's astral projection, is what it is. All of us are having out-of-body experiences here, online. Liz Smith knows that. She's just sort of scrambling to make that junk, John Edward science something old and traditionally accepted. But the new world is moving faster than we can ever hope to move. We can't hope to keep up. We're just nagging and nipping and grasping for its heels. That's the internet. That's this blog. It's an ugly fact, but a fact nonetheless.


    Oh, drinking.

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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    02/26/09

    @Richard: Bravo.
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    Image of lacieca01 lacieca01
    02/26/09

    @Richard: I'm not sure that Liz said that gossip or the gossip business mean nothing. It seems like she is being cranky about the messiness and unreliability of online gossip, which, as she points out, is in many cases not well fact-checked or even spell-checked.


    Her other point seems to be fairly straightforward too: with so many sources of information, and so many of them new and unproven, it's hard for a reader to know whom to trust. Liz is saying that a columnist who's been around for 20 years is going to be very conscious of her reputation and so is not going to jump at a story unless she's got a strong sense it's true. So readers can trust that what they read in a Liz Smith column is reliable because Liz is a proven brand. Liz suggests that a lone blogger who's been in the business for two weeks can't offer that same kind of brand reliability, and who can disagree with that?


    Mostly, though, Liz is old and understandably sad that a chapter in her life is ending. It surely must be tough to be forced out of a job when you're 80-something.

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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    02/26/09

    @lacieca01: But the readers don't necessarily care whether it's true or not, and that's what's sticking in her craw. The value she brought to the gossip business is lost on the internet audience.
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    Image of Private Hangnail Private Hangnail
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    When I am old I'll be working in a Burger King, stockpiling stolen ketchup while trying to orchestrate some sort of welfare fraud. Frankly, I think Liz is handling her golden years with a whole bunch of quiet dignity.
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    Image of WackoJacko WackoJacko
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    when there is no internet i will be hoarding my RSS feed all to myself!!!!!
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    02/26/09

    In reply to Fired Columnist Unloads on Foes
    Wow. Harsh final paragraph. Why get up in her face about putting herself out to pasture? The woman is in her 80s and wants to keep working. To me, it's not something to be overanalyzed. Let her find a new shingle until she's ready to go on her terms.


    I hope people aren't so ready to push you out with a broom when you hit your 80s...

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