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    Image of atlasfugged atlasfugged
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Three words: Charles Fucking Krauthammer.

    PS: Pareene, now you've done it. Expect another Op-Ed accusing Gawker of destroying print journalism in tomorrow's Post. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Seeräuber Jenny Seeräuber Jenny
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Older, but still shameful:

    As I recall, Fred Hiatt made an extremely lame apology after Valerie Plame's name was published in the WaPo. #washingtonpost
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    applause. the post is sliding over to foxland #washingtonpost
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Paul Fussell in his book Class says that the Washington Post can never be considered a serious newspaper because it carries comics and a horoscope.
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    10/16/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: I love old-school comics, but I concur on the horoscope. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Anthony De Rosa Anthony De Rosa
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Well that's just your opinion. #washingtonpost
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    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Brad DeLong put you up to this post, didn't he. #washingtonpost
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    Image of sympathyforthebasementcat sympathyforthebasementcat
    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    Don't give yourself too much credit, blogs. Sometimes Tennessee is behind the times, but my hometown newspaper was riding this "irresponsible and not caring about the truth" trend long before Al Gore even invented the internets. #washingtonpost
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    10/16/09

    In reply to The Washington Post Has the Worst Opinion Section in America
    No. Wall Street Journal. Argument over. #washingtonpost
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    10/16/09

    @Unsolicited Advice: No op-ed section featuring Thomas Frank AND Peggy Noonan can be the worst in the country. It's a SCIENTIFIC FACT. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    10/16/09

    @Pareene: I agree. Without Peggy Noonan, how would we know to let our freak flag fly?
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    Edited by Matt Cherette at 10/16/09 12:47 PM Matt Cherette was starred Matt Cherette was unstarred
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    10/16/09

    @Unsolicited Advice: I don't know. The Wall Street Journal's editorial board is evil, but the WaPo's is stupid. Stupid is worse than evil, I think. #washingtonpost
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    10/17/09

    @mattchew03: Do you realize I find myself loving her for that statement, it is disturbing but true #washingtonpost
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    Image of Carol Gardens Carol Gardens
    07/28/09

    In reply to Of Grownups, Mascots and the New York Observer
    Also, I'm likely to give it up (just got the renewal notice) NOT because it is too trendy and I don't understand it, but because there's hardly anything in it and they fired all the sharp funny writers.
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    07/28/09

    In reply to Of Grownups, Mascots and the New York Observer
    The crabby old NYO guy I miss more is Hilton Kramer!
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    Image of Nic Fit Nic Fit
    07/28/09

    In reply to Of Grownups, Mascots and the New York Observer
    I'm 40 years old and hip hop will never be "unspeakable", to me. To the generation before you rock and roll was "unspeakable". Times change, pops.
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    07/28/09

    @Nic Fit: Agreed - he completely lost me there. It's one thing to say "I will never understand hip-hop," but to disparage it in such broad strokes when it's been one of the only musical genres that's shown much artistic growth since Kurt Cobain died cheapens his argument, and makes him look less like an elder statesman leaving a no-longer-"serious" paper than an old fuddy-duddy who's pissed about life passing him by.
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    07/17/09

    In reply to Why So Much Hand-Wringing Over TechCrunch's Decision to Publish 'Hacked' Twitter Documents?
    @Michael Bauser:

    I think you've hit on the key point: what really matters is newsworthiness, not primarily the way the info was obtained (again, assuming that the journalist did not play a role in the illegal activity (which TC didn't)).

    In both a leak and a hack, the company's proprietary information or documents were taken from the company against the company's will. The only difference is whether the info/docs were taken by an employee (acting against the interests of the company, and possibly civil or criminal law), or by an outsider, before being given to the reporter.

    It seems to me the real issue isn't how the news org. obtained the info, but whether it is newsworthy. For example, assume these weren't business plans from Twitter, but instead were docs from a meatpacker revealing the presence of deadly bacteria in its ground beef -- info that the company planned to keep secret. I think just about everyone would agree that a news org. should publish the info -- whether the docs were passed along from leaker to reporter, or forwarded by email to the reporter by a hacker who broke into the meatpacker's email system.

    I agree that, at some level, printing leaked or hacked info or docs does "encourage such activity. And I don't know anyone who, as a general matter, says that people should break company policy or the law. But I also think that having a free and aggressive press is vital, and that prohibiting publication of unlawfully obtained info (assuming that the reporter played no role in the illegality) would be a very dangerous development.
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    07/17/09

    @BenSheffner:

    With unsavory methods of newsgathering comes a stiffer test of newsworthiness. If a reputable news source publishes stolen information, it has to be able to justify it.

    Saving lives and preventing gross injustice are justifications. Spreading private corporate information and possibly trade secrets aren't.
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    07/17/09

    @BenSheffner: What's to prevent all reporters from using illegal means like hacking and then claiming they received the info anonymously?
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    07/17/09

    @SNForrester:

    If the reporter himself uses illegal means, he can and should be prosecuted. I don't think anyone argues otherwise. The question is whether a reporter can print info/docs where someone else obtains it through illegal acts, in which the reporter played no role. I think he can.
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    Image of RosalieNumski RosalieNumski
    07/17/09

    In reply to Why So Much Hand-Wringing Over TechCrunch's Decision to Publish 'Hacked' Twitter Documents?
    You are missing the point entirely. Publishing these documents just glorifies the Hacker's actions. Its the same reason sports broadcasts refuse to show people who have ran onto the field of play. They don't want to inspire others to do the same action.
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    Gabriel Snyder promoted this comment RosalieNumski was starred RosalieNumski was unstarred
    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    07/17/09

    @RosalieNumski: Sports broadcasts are entertainment and streakers ruin the show. Journalists generally want to -- or should -- encourage people to come to them with information, documents, news.
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    Image of SNForrester SNForrester
    07/17/09

    In reply to Why So Much Hand-Wringing Over TechCrunch's Decision to Publish 'Hacked' Twitter Documents?
    I think it's unethical because there was a crime and the proceeds of the crime went directly to TechCrunch. This is not the case of a whistleblower or tipster. This is info from a criminal.

    What I want to know is if TC is going to help the investigation or are they going to protect their source/criminal?
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    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    07/17/09

    @SNForrester: As long as journalists want to keep getting good scoops, they protect their sources.
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    07/17/09

    In reply to Why So Much Hand-Wringing Over TechCrunch's Decision to Publish 'Hacked' Twitter Documents?
    umm, i think it's more complicated than that. a dude broke into twitter's network to obtain the documents. can you imagine if a wsj ran documents that were stolen from, say, a senator's locked office? wouldn't fly.
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    Gabriel Snyder promoted this comment SomatraSea horse was starred SomatraSea horse was unstarred
    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    07/17/09

    @SomatraSea horse: The WSJ regularly runs stories based on documents that can be considered "stolen." They just can't do the stealing.
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