It is shameful that neither this story nor the links have a picture, so that we can determine his guilt or innocence by how hot (or not) he is. #robertmormando
I love these guys who say they "regret a life of crime," like that magically fixes all the havoc they created.
I tend to wonder if they are waiting for us to say, "Oh, well as long as you regret it then all is forgiven! All we wanted was an apology and that's that! Carry on."
@MsMuffinMcGuffin: Actually, right or wrong, you'd be surprised how much our justice system is based on remorse and penitence. Whether one expresses these things can have a huge impact during the sentencing phase of a criminal trial. #robertmormando
@MsMuffinMcGuffin: You'd be surprised how many people don't show remorse at all. For very heinous crimes. So yes, sincere remorse can help with sentencing. #robertmormando
The restraint that causes people to stay silent is not a rarity at all. It only seems that way if you look at a lot of websites and social media sites that cater to people who want to express themselves.
Most people do not have Twitter, and of those who do, most are not active on it. Most people don't comment on blogs. Most people don't go to parties that are documented by photo blogs. Many people don't have Facebook, and of the ones that do, only a minority use it actively or post photos of themselves all over the place.
newmediadipshit: Standing @ punch bowl. Sklar just ate her 6th crab cake!
blogR4life: went to nerve shindig last night @ chelsea. no porn or nudity. just young professionals talking about HBO programs. Yawn.
XMLhottie: Gawker party in the LES. Nick on balcony doing rail off rail.
OMG. So much to say here, I'll try to keep it close to the point:
This "Protocols" thing... I know 4 of these 5 people quite well, and they're all very smart and talented, and maybe you should know that they have all been so enthusiastically prolific online that I can't resolve the inconsistency here. Jafurry DOES SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS for a living. Lux ONCE RAN AND MODELED A PORN SITE. Malice co-founded Overheard in NY, created in a format so eerily similar to Twitter that it would have been smartly started on Twitter had it been invented today. Molly Crabapple has a strong online presence and promotes herself enthusiastically on Twitter. So, are these people really eschewing Twitter or are they just starting a secret whisper club in general?
This is all conveniently left out of the article. He states professions for all of the Protocols organizers, but is very selective and incomplete in doing so... and I'm sure that not only helps his point, it serves the privacy/PR of his friends who he's writing about! They're happy to give him what he wants as long as he covers them in a flattering way and doesn't point out any of their potential philosophical inconsistencies.
(I mean, even with this information... you get the feeling that the club itself has some sort of honest purpose consistent with their careers, but I'm not convinced at all that the club is necessary. What is everyone so paranoid about that they can blather all day on the Internet for the last 8 years, but they feel there are things they can't speak about if they might be posted on Twitter? Are we reading aloud the results of our HIV tests? It's a sort of controlled exhibitionism, a phenomenon about which a more interesting article could have been written.)
So now that Salkin's error of omission is corrected, let's talk about where this article goes... NOWHERE! Omg, there are people who want PRIVACY! And the thing about the privacy that these people want is that it does not really do anything except feed their vanities and their PR strategies! So you can't blog from Milk and Honey... well guess what, not even most NYTimes readers are members of Milk and Honey, but thanks for the free name drop of an exclusive club in the Styles section! Let's take a look at that list of namedrops: Tenjune, some reading series at Southpaw, "Notes on a Party"... the rest of the article is some people talking about a common experience with something uncomfortable that happened online. Right, so that means it's a trend to both ban Twitter (it's not) and, in general, to explicitly tell rude people not to go too far with the overshare (which is no story at all). No trends, lots of good PR... and nothing worth actually thinking about. Hey, anyone going to Milk and Honey tonight? We should all go and buy lots of drinks. Someone mentioned it today and I want to check it out.
This article is so intellectually bankrupt that it rivals AIG in enormity. This is why I subscribe to the New Yorker and not the Times.
(Disclosure: It's not the first time I've been disappointed or irked by this author, admittedly. Or vice versa! As a matter of fact, he hates Gawker and hates Gawker commenters and dislikes me personally because I'm a known Gawker commenter. He is mostly dismissive, which I'm sure serves his agenda quite well. Well, these articles are still shitty and empty no matter who's commenting on them. Write better stuff if the scorn gets under your skin. BRING IT OR GO HOME, SALKIN.)
(And BTW, I'm posting a link to this on my Twitter.)
@BrianVan: You might be talking about Allen Salkin, but your wordy, impassioned and blustery tome is reminding me of Aaron Sorkin.
*rimshot*
Seriously folks, tip your waitress because I won’t.
*rimshot*
Truly folks, this is the end of the act. Go home!
@if_i_only_had_a_heart: Salkin? Or me? Talk of my peen is tragically muted, here. Feel free to move forward with it. Salkin's peen will inevitably have a holiday given to it and will make for a great NYT Sunday Mag cover story.
Hey, just curious, what precisely did Salkin get right? The pink-unicorns-galloping-through-fields-o-grass truism that "there’s something magical about a life less posted"? Or was it this stop-the-presses insight: "..there are signs that some are tired of living their lives on the Web"?! (Said insight very convincingly shored up by quotes from two of Salkin's NYC media friends + three anonymous Manhattan sources + a club owner.) No, the truest part has gotta be Protocols' manifesto: "We are fighting against this whole idea that everything people do has to be constantly chronicled." While the whole lot of them are on Twitter!
PS: Major LOL @allensalkin "blocking gawkerdotcom from following my tweets." Uh, esteemed NYT poet-philosopher, your Twitter is set on public--the whole InterNerds can see what you tweet.
@snugbug: I haven't the faintest idea. Is this thing even on? Try the tags, sure, why not. In defense of Protocols (which, the more I say it, reminds me of the most famous with the word 'Protocols' in the title, which is creepy), they said everything was Twittered, and that this specific place was a free zone, which is funny because they gave quotes to the Times about it. Then again, I wish I knew more people who could turn down giving a quote to the Times, so I could say I know them, but other than the wayward entertainment industry slave (who all talk to, in theater, Reidel, and film, Finke) I don't. The part Salkin got right was the delicious irony that the guy whose life was "a product to be harvested" ended up in a farm and in Ethiopia. That's hysterical.
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I tend to wonder if they are waiting for us to say, "Oh, well as long as you regret it then all is forgiven! All we wanted was an apology and that's that! Carry on."
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How can we out Hunter Walker if we can't contact him? #robertmormando
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Most people do not have Twitter, and of those who do, most are not active on it. Most people don't comment on blogs. Most people don't go to parties that are documented by photo blogs. Many people don't have Facebook, and of the ones that do, only a minority use it actively or post photos of themselves all over the place.
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blogR4life: went to nerve shindig last night @ chelsea. no porn or nudity. just young professionals talking about HBO programs. Yawn.
XMLhottie: Gawker party in the LES. Nick on balcony doing rail off rail.
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This "Protocols" thing... I know 4 of these 5 people quite well, and they're all very smart and talented, and maybe you should know that they have all been so enthusiastically prolific online that I can't resolve the inconsistency here. Jafurry DOES SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS for a living. Lux ONCE RAN AND MODELED A PORN SITE. Malice co-founded Overheard in NY, created in a format so eerily similar to Twitter that it would have been smartly started on Twitter had it been invented today. Molly Crabapple has a strong online presence and promotes herself enthusiastically on Twitter. So, are these people really eschewing Twitter or are they just starting a secret whisper club in general?
This is all conveniently left out of the article. He states professions for all of the Protocols organizers, but is very selective and incomplete in doing so... and I'm sure that not only helps his point, it serves the privacy/PR of his friends who he's writing about! They're happy to give him what he wants as long as he covers them in a flattering way and doesn't point out any of their potential philosophical inconsistencies.
(I mean, even with this information... you get the feeling that the club itself has some sort of honest purpose consistent with their careers, but I'm not convinced at all that the club is necessary. What is everyone so paranoid about that they can blather all day on the Internet for the last 8 years, but they feel there are things they can't speak about if they might be posted on Twitter? Are we reading aloud the results of our HIV tests? It's a sort of controlled exhibitionism, a phenomenon about which a more interesting article could have been written.)
So now that Salkin's error of omission is corrected, let's talk about where this article goes... NOWHERE! Omg, there are people who want PRIVACY! And the thing about the privacy that these people want is that it does not really do anything except feed their vanities and their PR strategies! So you can't blog from Milk and Honey... well guess what, not even most NYTimes readers are members of Milk and Honey, but thanks for the free name drop of an exclusive club in the Styles section! Let's take a look at that list of namedrops: Tenjune, some reading series at Southpaw, "Notes on a Party"... the rest of the article is some people talking about a common experience with something uncomfortable that happened online. Right, so that means it's a trend to both ban Twitter (it's not) and, in general, to explicitly tell rude people not to go too far with the overshare (which is no story at all). No trends, lots of good PR... and nothing worth actually thinking about. Hey, anyone going to Milk and Honey tonight? We should all go and buy lots of drinks. Someone mentioned it today and I want to check it out.
This article is so intellectually bankrupt that it rivals AIG in enormity. This is why I subscribe to the New Yorker and not the Times.
(Disclosure: It's not the first time I've been disappointed or irked by this author, admittedly. Or vice versa! As a matter of fact, he hates Gawker and hates Gawker commenters and dislikes me personally because I'm a known Gawker commenter. He is mostly dismissive, which I'm sure serves his agenda quite well. Well, these articles are still shitty and empty no matter who's commenting on them. Write better stuff if the scorn gets under your skin. BRING IT OR GO HOME, SALKIN.)
(And BTW, I'm posting a link to this on my Twitter.)
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*rimshot*
Seriously folks, tip your waitress because I won’t.
*rimshot*
Truly folks, this is the end of the act. Go home!
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PS: Major LOL @allensalkin "blocking gawkerdotcom from following my tweets." Uh, esteemed NYT poet-philosopher, your Twitter is set on public--the whole InterNerds can see what you tweet.
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