As for the "Christianity" on display here, it's an awful religion and here's why I no longer subscribe: the proper response for a Christian when confronted by a gun is supposed to say, "I love you," to the person shooting them.

As I say, it's an awful, horrible, stupid, fucked up and communist religion. Were Christ alive on 9/11 he would have said something retarded like, "Love you enemy, pray for those who persecute you and turn the other cheek."

And we would have slapped that bitch into Guantanamo Bay and waterboarded him so fast his head would spin.

As for his choice of weapon, would he get a discount from Israeli Military Industries for giving them so much business?

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"Die Religion ist das Opium des Volkes." Communists are not big fans of religion.

Who exactly do you think we have in Guantanamo Bay being waterboarded? I only know of three people and none of them were even close to being profits or the Son of God or anything of that nature.

The guns are discounted, but thats with a three year contract for the ammo. It's like buying an iPhone.

I actually had to look up that gun on line. I'm not a huge gun person.

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Though I would certainly not agree that Christianity is particularly Communist (most organised religion does have similarities with totalitarianism in general in that questioning things is not welcome), most Communist and other totalitarian regimes do use religious tactics. Blind patriotism and blind faith are rather similar.

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What must one do to be saved? Jesus, not a big believer in accumulating wealth said, "Sell all that you have and give it to the poor."

My father was a Baptist minister, and if that's the standard for what a Christian is, I have yet to meet any. Still. But you're right, someone as radical as the guy who commanded us to forgive, love and pray for the 9/11 hijackers wouldn't have been sent to Gitmo. He would have been marginalized, demonized and ignored. And in fact, that's just what Christ did command Christians to do. Massive. Global. Fail.

Suckers.

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If this seems difficult to understand, I encourage you to talk to people who can speak comparatively about the probable and usual outcomes of attacks using guns, knives, or cars as weapons. Police officers and E.R. doctors would be able to help you out with this.

You could also imagine a game in which you have to choose in advance one of these three things, though once the game begins, you will be totally unaware of what will happen and when it will happen:

(1) A person near you will suddenly produce a gun and shoot you;

(2) A person near you will suddenly produce a knife, rush at you, and attempt to stab you;

(3) A person in a car near you will suddenly veer toward you and attempt to hit you with their car.

Are you telling me that the probability of death — or, alternatively, the probability or your being able to defend yourself — would be equal in each case?

Of course not. A random or unexpected attack using a firearm is far more likely to be fatal.

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(4) A person will toss a Komodo Dragon at you.

(5) A person will place you into a decompression chamber and release your oxygen.

(6) A person will drop an anvil on your head.

(7) A person will saw a hole in the floor around your feet.

(8) A person will place you in a chamber where the walls close in and crush.

(9) A person will play mariachi music until you feel sad enough to commit suicide.

(10) A person will dangerously overestimate the amount of loads that they can safely place in your exploding cigar and blow you up.

I used to be an E.R. doctor and I've seen all of these things.

I'm not being a dick. Your post just seemed like fun.

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@ChillbearLatrigue: If you really used to be an E.R. doctor, I want your best "patient comes in with OHMYGOD up his ass" story. Stat.

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So T.s. Ediot's point is still pertinent.

(BTW, it's homicide, NOT homocide )

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Cars aren't designed precisely to kill human beings. And nobody is saying ban dangeorus things. What people are asking for is for that WELL REGULATED MILITIA so clearly demanded by our Constitution.

A drunk Billy Bob firing his legally owned handgun into the air from his pickup ruck in Bumfuck, Mississippi is not what I call a well regulated militia.

PS: You can legally own a gun before you can legally drive, suggesting that cars are regulated more than weapons.

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Which I only kind of agree with. Guns in the hands of trained people, I'm not so worried about. I'm in graduate school in Virginia right now, and there was a big hubbub in the state legislature this year because there was a bill on the table that would allow college professors to carry concealed weapons (because of what happened at Virginia Tech). I have a serious problem with that. So did a lot of others, as the bill failed.

Also, how much is it REALLY a threat to have a madman come into a church with a gun, and how much of the threat is only perceived, like the threat of most kinds of crime anymore, thanks to the nightly news? Violent crime has declined a great deal in the last 15 years.

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Now if your fear is that a gun toting professor might go into a rage and kill someone, I'm sure that same professor would have the means to bring a gun onto campus just like every other homicidal maniac does. So prohibiting the professor from carrying a gun doesn't protect you from him, but it does give him a chance to protect you from a sociopathic nut.

Violent crime has declined in the past 15 years, but that doesn't mean that I want to be legislated into a statistical anomaly. Oh, Chillbear was the only person shot this month. Relatively speaking that's pretty good. Thanks.

I appreciate the kind words. Thank you for leaving off the 10 millionth and 100 millionth 9 digits in your 99.999999% approximation.

@Balsa Wood: I'm assuming varying reaction times from the churchgoers, but the John Woo Scenario cracked me up.

@purn: I don't know if you realize how embarrassingly weak you look when you don't really have anything to say and yet leave three posts.

Please, review this fact sheet before posting to me. I'll wait patiently:

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I think the difference we have here is fundamental--I think fewer guns make us more safe, and I gather you think the opposite. It irks me to think that an educator could have a weapon because it makes the balance of power in the classroom wholly in favor of the professor, where I don't feel this should always be the case. Education should ideally be collaborative (and I realize in a freshman bio class, there isn't much room for debate, so I'm not saying this applies to all classes) but throwing a firearm in the mix might mean that some people are less likely to engage in debate with the professor. And not necessarily because s/he has a gun and might shoot a student, but just because the power dynamic is so skewed. Maybe that seems like an academic objection, but I don't like to have professors only pontificating and not engaging students, which I feel like happens too often.

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"Anyone who wants to force their gun mentality on me by saying its for my own benefit: fuck you." And I could respond by saying that anyone who wants to remove my gun from me to say that is for my neighbors benefit, fuck you. Aside from traffic infractions I've never committed a crime in my life - violent or otherwise. How does taking my gun away from me make anyone safer, since I am both law abiding and trained?

So if the public safety argument doesn't hold any sway for you and you are speaking for all of society, what about the individual law abiding citizen's right to protect himself or herself?

Incidentally, I'm not a member of the NRA, nor do I subscribe to all of their positions, but its not as though there are 20 or so lobbying groups trying to defend gun rights. I have no issue with gun registration or limited the sale of things like armor piercing rounds and I could give a shit up hunting, but I do know that a gun within arms reach is worth 100 cops two blocks away.

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@momof3wildkids: I don't care for Glocks. See gawkimo's explanation. I do like the Python. Especially if I just have to shake the controller to reload it. It's good for blowing the heads off of zombies in Raccoon City.

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Why. You gonna shoot me with your penis extension?

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