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    Image of Shadowlayer Shadowlayer
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    BTW, Chow if you're reading this, your book is on teh torrentz now
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    How did mr.assclown get 10M in VC monies?
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    I follow John Chow, in part because he's a funny, smart guy and in part because I generally bump into him once a week at least at some Social Media Gabfest. Whatever else he is, he's a brilliant man.

    He is absolutely the most unabashed capitalist you will ever meet, and that includes the entire staff and management of Haliburton. His "Black Hat Tips for Making Money Online" talk last year at WordCamp Fraser Valley was jaw-dropping. The tagline of his blog is "I make money online teaching people to make money online." And it's true.

    It's kind of like watching Conrad Black...you can't help but be fascinated, even if you hate yourself for watching.

    I'm surprised, actually, he put the (ad) on there. Most of the ads I get are either DM spam from people who are too dim to realize their accounts are compromised because they gave their password to "get your blog's birth sign" apps OR they're not identified as ads. Kudos to him for doing it, and no, it's not going to cost him any followers. His crowd just wants to know how they get that deal (kinda like Gawker reporting on Emily's book).
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    Image of ted008 ted008
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    Wait. Doesn't Gawker run sponsored posts... three years after I started PayPerPost? Don't be mad because you were late to the game : ) [bit.ly]

    Your VP seems to think that sponsored posts will bring in the majority of revenue one day. Call me what you like, but the concepts I have helped pioneer are paying your paycheck.
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    11/22/09

    @ted008: Gawker's been running sponsored posts as long as I've been reading it. Four years, give or take. And I remember the advertiser shout-outs so well because they were clearly marked as such. I'll defer to Gabriel's quote on this one:

    "What’s advertising should be called advertising and what’s edit should be called edit. It hurts both to blur the distinction."

    Which is what you're in the business of: convincing people that content is advertising, and vice-versa. They say you can't polish a turd; your business model is evidence that while it shouldn't be done, when there's a will, almost always, there might be a way.
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    Edited by Foster Kamer at 11/22/09 7:18 PM Foster Kamer was starred Foster Kamer was unstarred
    Image of Anthony De Rosa Anthony De Rosa
    11/22/09

    @ted008: Your service is the equivalent of sitting down to dinner with a friend who in mid-conversation blurts out "act now and get the second slap chop for free!"

    I will say this, you're making it easy to figure out which people i'm following on twitter are genuine and which ones are marketing drones.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/22/09

    @Anthony De Rosa: Ah, the Arianna Huffington Maneuver.
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    Image of Taylor Sternberg Taylor Sternberg
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    I don't think the downfall of Myspace were the "obnoxious ads". People still used the service. What really happened to Myspace was the fractionation of the service. It was no longer about Social Networking, but so many other things. The social networking part of the service went away, and while they were away, Facebook came in, and became the social networking killer app. Myspace neglected what made it so popular: creating your own pages and music. They had their hands in so many different places that they could not devote resources to the "killer app". Twitter succeeds because they know they're a communication app, and they aren't fractionating. Google has fractionated, but still pump most of their energy into search.
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    Image of GlasgowRose GlasgowRose
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
     
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    Image of themediatrix themediatrix
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    Were you paid to repeatedly use the word "assclown" in this post?
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    11/22/09

    @themediatrix: Yes. By the Assclown Lobby of America.
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    Edited by Foster Kamer at 11/22/09 7:11 PM Foster Kamer was starred Foster Kamer was unstarred
    Image of themediatrix themediatrix
    11/22/09

    @Foster Kamer: I knew it! They have a huge advertising buttget.
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    Ironically, of John Chow's 50,000 followers bombarded with ads, 20% are spambots with photos of hot girls for avatars.

    And the cycle continues...
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    Image of Maura Johnston Maura Johnston
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    "We are not trying to turn Facebook and Twitter into one giant spam network. All we are trying to do is get consumers to become marketers for us."

    Cognitive dissonance, ladies and gents!
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/22/09

    In reply to The Return of Pay Per Post and the End of Twitter: Internet as One Long, Subversive Ad
    1. "trusted" "friends" "recommend" "products they use"
    2. profts!!!!!
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    Image of tonilost tonilost
    11/22/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: I'm so busted right now that this sounds like an easy way to make money, so I cant hate on Chow.
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    If_I_Had_a_Poodle promoted this comment tonilost was starred tonilost was unstarred
    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/22/09

    @tonilost: Do you have 200k followers?

    #tips
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/22/09

    @tonilost: He's not hard to find:

    [johnchow.com]
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