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    Image of LelandDarnsies LelandDarnsies
    05/14/09

    In reply to Peter Thiel's Richer Than You, But Not as Rich as He'd Like You to Think
    There's a great chance that this analysis is totally wrong. Peter probably has a chunk of money is his fund through a General Partner account. That's what would receive the 20% performance fee (if they have positive investment returns). Many times, that money just stays in the Fund.
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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    05/14/09

    @LelandDarnsies: Wrong on two accounts. Clarium takes a 25 percent performance fee, not 20 percent. And Clarium had a disastrous year last year, which means it made essentially no money. Thiel has earned fees in the past, when his fund was much smaller.
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    Image of ADismalScience ADismalScience
    05/14/09

    In reply to Peter Thiel's Richer Than You, But Not as Rich as He'd Like You to Think
    I'd be shocked if you're right.


    1.) 2006 is a faraway time. Most hedgies have seen the wisdom in putting less of their money where their mouth is. I would be very surprised if Mr. Thiel has retained this approach.


    2.) As you disclosed, liquid net worth. Other, harder-to-value assets like the Facebook stake likely pepper his portfolio. I'd be shocked if that was Mr. Thiel's only venture, after all!


    The presence of that statement document doesn't make such a blindered analysis credible. You can get the pitchbook and the marketing materials pretty easily, even from the most cloistered of funds. Hell, the only reason you aren't bombarded with them is because of marketing and disclosure laws that identify you, Mr. Thomas, as neither an Accredited Investor nor a Qualified Purchaser.

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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    05/14/09

    @ADismalScience: According to my sources at Clarium, he still keeps his assets at the firm. He no longer runs his personal finances through Clarium, however -- that's how his employees caught him making a donation to NumbersUSA, the anti-immigration lobbying outfit.
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    Image of ADismalScience ADismalScience
    05/14/09

    @Owen Thomas:


    Color me shocked. Foolish and vain, though I suppose it fits the profile.

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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    05/14/09

    In reply to Peter Thiel's Richer Than You, But Not as Rich as He'd Like You to Think
    I love that this analysis exploits the psychology of a libertarian crackpot to shame him for not being a billionaire.
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