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    Image of Alaska Miller Alaska Miller
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    College kids are funny.
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    Image of Mo MoDo Mo MoDo
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Plagiarism lesson: Write for years, get a NYT column, win a Pulitzer and THEN start stealing from people. Kids today just don't want to put in the time.
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    Image of eeeradicator eeeradicator
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    She is a second year college student, and I am supposed to be surprised that she cheats on assignments? Not so much. What happened to that other young woman who did not graduate from her journalism program because of a snafu over submitting the same work to two profs? These two need to hook up.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    07/08/09

    @eeeradicator: What's that supposed to mean? If you're trying to say all college students cheat on assignments, no, they don't.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    That Talese interview sounds really, really made up. Like... seriously made up.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    07/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Agreed 100%. Too bad the blog's now private:


    [hlmacarthur.wordpress.com]


    Can't find anything on Google, but if I were at home with my stack of old Spy magazines, I'm relatively sure I'd find it somewhere in there, maybe with Henry Kissinger?

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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    07/08/09

    @raincoaster: No I just think the whole interview itself is made up. Maybe for an assignment, maybe just for her own kicks. At best she had a couple of minutes with him on the phone.


    But I've done a LOT of interviews, with a lot of people, and no one has ever "turned the tables" on me with personal, salacious questions. Especially not another professional.


    And to use your interview to insinuate that Talese - who's married to the fabulous Nan Talese - is interested in you and suggests a "meet up" seem to me to be the height of egotism and asshole journalism. Making journalism touch on the personal is endearing in stories. I do it too. But then there's this bullshit, where the journalism becomes about you.


    This is fake. The more I read it, the more I'm convinced it's absolutely fake.

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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    07/09/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Surely someone at Gawker who gets paid for this sort of thing could just PHONE Talese and ask?
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    Image of robrob9 robrob9
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Really? A whole post dedicated to the dismissal of an intern -- intern -- at some middling newspaper in Colorado. Really? And she's worthy of national humiliation ...why? Is this someone's ex-girlfriend at Gawker?


    Cajun Boy, you're an asshole.

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    Image of robrob9 robrob9
    07/08/09

    @robrob9: Okay, so, I just read her blog bio. Maybe a national frying pan to the face was in order after all. Still not totally convinced this merited the esteemed Gawker snarkification (you've got her sandwiched between items about Sarah Palin and Michael Jackson, for chrissakes), but that bio definitely makes me want to yell at her. If that was what pushed you over the edge to post this, well, I guess I can understand.


    I'm sorry Ole Miss fired your dad.

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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    07/08/09

    @robrob9: So if someone famous does something stupid and dishonest they should be grilled for it, but if someone unknown does it it's okay? I wouldn't accept that in reverse, so I don't know why I should accept it forwards. Being an intern is hardly an excuse for egregious plagiarism; grade school kids know you're not supposed to copy other people's work.
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    Image of TedSez TedSez
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    One of the passages she stole was from a writer's first-person account of what it was like when his own daughter died.


    That's a level of wrongness beyond plagiarism, and beyond unforgivable.

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    Image of Richard Lawson Richard Lawson
    07/08/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Gainesville and Colorado Springs? I'd start plagiarizing too if meant getting the hell out of those burgs.
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    Image of Satyrica Satyrica
    07/07/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Pore, not pour.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    07/08/09

    @Satyrica: Thank you.
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    Image of jorel845 jorel845
    07/07/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Amazing how your digital footprint doesn't quite expire in equal measures.


    She definitely can write, but the underwear bit is pathetic. Her savy is questionable, as she plagarised the NYT, and not something smaller and less well known.

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    Image of The Cajun Boy The Cajun Boy
    07/07/09

    @jorel845: I think you have to give her a bit of a pass for the underwear bit. She's young, a second-year student, and quite naive. She's obviously got some growing up to do.
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    Image of aLostLady aLostLady
    07/07/09

    @The Cajun Boy: She hasn't grown out of the cutesy, I-think-I'm-being-refreshingly-honest-wh... kind of thought process. Unless she thinks of herself as the next Carrie Bradshaw.


    For the most part, her writing was brisk, showed a lot of personality, and was interesting. It's a shame she felt she had to lift from another publication.

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    Image of ThatMother-Chucker ThatMother-Chucker
    07/08/09

    @jorel845: Never have I ever... written about my underwear in J-School.


    I don't care how cute you think you're being, or how young you are. Age shouldn't be a pass for an interview piece with serious gag factor. And anyone who gets into writing to be the next Carrie Bradshaw should quit now.

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    Image of badass-boi badass-boi
    07/08/09

    @ThatMother-Chucker: Not so fast chucker. This ain't your dad's journalism; writers and bloggers with colorful writing styles rule the day -- the 5 Ws and beat checks are dead. Before this cluster-chuck, she would have likely gone further playing the spunky, passionate, young writer than being a hard-bitten reliable newshound. Right? No. Realistic? You bet yur ass.
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    07/08/09

    @jorel845: That was my thought, too: dilettante. Thus is not how you rip sh*t off. You grab a foot-tall stack of Playboys and Esquires from the 60s and 70s--where some of the most brilliant American long-form journalism or criticism ever has been published--and steal from there. Or lift off ideas for heds, ledes, etc. None of that stuff is archived online so it's practically untraceable these days. Plus, it's brilliant.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    07/08/09

    @snugbug: Hey, hey I said it first! Look at the timestamp!
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    raincoaster was starred raincoaster was unstarred
    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    07/07/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Have you plugged the Talese interview into Google and seen if it matches up with a 10-year-old Playgirl interview with Tom Wolfe or something?
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    07/07/09

    In reply to Small Town Newspaper Intern Canned For Plagiarizing New York Times
    Maybe they're the same homeless, who winter in Colorado Springs. Anyway, it's not Grand Theft, mere shoplifting.
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    Image of ifstone ifstone
    06/25/09

    In reply to The Case Against Chris Anderson
    Anderson should be given his due for what he's accomplished with Wired. It is ... a formidable title.


    Whew. Sounds like someone wants to work at Wired.


    Wired was Tired fifteen years ago. Formidable? Maybe compared to Gawker and Gizmodo, Wired might seem formidable. The rest of us see it as vacuous pap.

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    Image of El Matardillo El Matardillo
    06/24/09

    In reply to The Case Against Chris Anderson
    If he puts Julia Allison on the cover it'll be a bestseller.
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    Image of metropolitan metropolitan
    06/24/09

    In reply to Wired Editor Steals Content for Book About How Content Should be Free
    i'm sorry, but you're missing the point. it's not ironic when someone takes free content and uses it on a book about free content. it's practicing what you preach.

    we live in a copy and paste world and that's that.
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    Image of Stefanie Kechayas Stefanie Kechayas
    06/23/09

    In reply to Wired Editor Steals Content for Book About How Content Should be Free
    Actually, I'm doing my masters in new media communications and I regularly use Wikipedia as a reference to find primary sources.


    Most people don't realise that it is becoming common practice for experts in given fields to contribute to their field's Wikipedia entry. Often its expected that PhD students contribute something. Yes, Wikipedia is open to everyone, but there are pretty strict editorial policies that the site has to deal with spamming and uncited sources.


    When looking at an entry, use your brain. Does it have have an extensive reference list? Are these references solid? How is the writing style of the entry? These things will tell you about the quality of the entry. A well-written, well-researched Wikipedia article can be extremely useful to scholars. Of course, like any reference, they should not be relied on exclusively.


    Anyone who thinks the Internet and wikis are the first media texts to undermine 'facts' and critical thinking are in for a shock.

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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    06/24/09

    @Stefanie Kechayas: Often its expected that PhD students contribute something.


    Really? Does your source on this assertion happen to be...Wikipedia?

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