@Swifter: It will be fascinating to see if Republicans try to make this Max Baucus thing a huge deal, as was their wont in the past. By the way, he's a DINO - Democrat in name only. He's been bought and paid for by the insurance industry for years, and you deep thinkers are known for letting industries regulate themselves. It worked out so well with the banking and energy industries, I can't imagine it won't work out with the health insurance industry. Because in the long run we all know that businesses always do what's best for freedom, public health, economic security, and the little autistic Palin children.
Haven't most actual experts on health policy agreed that higher subsidies are both more important and more effective than the toothless public option they were going to pass?
It's also highly possible that she couldn't stand the thought of being in a state populated almost exclusively by non-Americans with phony birth certificates.
...that or she wasn't considered hot there. Happens when you leave a state with a 6 to 1 male to female ratio and venture into a multi-ethnic paradise.
Speaking of dads, my own wingnutty one (god bless him--he once told us kids that Bill Clinton had killed lots of people...) went to the Palin book signing in AZ and observed that only white people were there.
Also, when I expressed outrage that he went in the first place, he tried to hang up the phone on me.
@misslinda: he tried to abruptly end the conversation and hang up, so I changed the subject a bit and then softened my tirade. (This is the typical dance with him.)
@Banjo-Sea Kitten: Try very very hard. And sorry about your father. I'm sure as you got older you realized that Bill Clinton was a lover, not a fighter.
@misslinda: ah. We were already grown and debating him at a family gathering. You're always "the kids" with your parents I guess. (Yes, I still need lots of therapy when it comes to him.)
"lover"...hee hee. I love Bill even without the pun intended. :-)
My racist sister-in-law and her also racist husband were stationed in Hawaii while in the navy and before my husband and I went on vacation there, they warned us that the locals were really nasty towards white people so other than the main tourist areas, it's a miserable place. Needless to say, the locals were perfectly lovely, and it was the military who were particularly nasty towards the locals. Funny how that got all twisted around in their heads.
@Tammany_Fall: Perhaps. I definitely don't think it was the affinity for Spam. I think she kinda lives there when making spam-dogs for the kiddies. She's yokel tough!
Some brave senator needs to attach a rider to the health care bill mandating that Congress health plans are voided for any congressmen voting against the Public Option.
Since Government-Paid Health care is such an abomination, of course.
I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing for Medicare recipients supporting plans to kill the Public Option, same rationale.
@sarrible: Senator Franken has already made the GOP senators sad by mocking them for their support for the Contractor-Rapist Protection Bill. It'd be great if he made them downright unhappy.
@Trai_Dep: God, I love that. It'll make my year if he gets up on the floor and tells the gentleman from Texas to pull up his big-boy pants and stop crying like a slapped child because votes have consequences.
The uncoupling of insurance from employment and some type of public option are absolutely INEVITABLE in the long term.
The only questions left are how we get from here to there. Getting those things will be a lot easier if we can get some kind of reform accomplished this year.
So don't go jumping off bridges just yet, libtards!
Art of the possible my eye, Rahm. This is why you needed to go big, or go home. A psuedo-agency birthed out of a failure to realize a comprehensive state-run solution is exactly what everyone fears, the exact opposite of the transcendant social commitment to health care that a real reform would have represented. They should have dug in on a single-payer plan or done nothing; declaring victory over a private subsidy requiring that everyone pay for care will be as hollow as it gets.
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Show us your real birth certificates, Hawaiians!
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In other words, Alaska-hot but not Hawaii-hot.
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Also, when I expressed outrage that he went in the first place, he tried to hang up the phone on me.
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(If you don't get the reference, please watch Jersey Shore. You will thank me later.)
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I will try and catch JS.
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"lover"...hee hee. I love Bill even without the pun intended. :-)
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And yokels from Wasilla are glamorous?
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Since Government-Paid Health care is such an abomination, of course.
I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing for Medicare recipients supporting plans to kill the Public Option, same rationale.
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The only questions left are how we get from here to there. Getting those things will be a lot easier if we can get some kind of reform accomplished this year.
So don't go jumping off bridges just yet, libtards!
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