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10/27/09
While she was enjoying her "post-feminist" privileges and denigrating the radical actions, litigation and legislative campaigns that made her success possible, others of us continued the fight against all the gender inequities Ms. Lipman seems to have just discovered — unequal pay, the glass ceiling, job ghettos, media sexism (not to mention rape and violence against women) — none of which is very funny. Yet she trots out the old canard that women need a sense of humor before they can demand their rights.
[www.nytimes.com] #joannelipman
10/26/09
The others (aka, "size 8 and over," "not white"): fat, lazy, eat at McDonald's. #joannelipman
10/27/09
But I agree with your points. Although I'm an XX female I did not feel included and was tempted to quote Tonto.
There was a distinct whiff of upper-middle-class-white-woman entitlement to it.
10/25/09
[jonswift.blogspot.com]
"But Dowd was not just crying for herself. She was crying for all of the pundits and journalists and bloggers who worry that another Clinton Administration will turn us into Clinton-hating hacks. She was crying for all of us who remember how the peace and prosperity of the Clinton era led directly into the war and economic downturn of the Bush years, something we don't want to happen again. She feels our pain."
For a good laugh:
[jonswift.blogspot.com]
This is not the first time Ms. Shaidle, has taken on the menace of the poor. "The so-called poor have cars and cable tv and free medical," she wrote last year. "They live in America in the 21st century, where school is free and libraries are free and a bus ticket to a better town costs less than a bag of crack. If they're 'poor' it's because they were too lazy and stupid to a) finish high school and/or b) keep their pants on. Jesus had something to say about folks who didn't properly manage their money or other people's." Although I am not familiar with Jesus' admonitions against poor accounting practices, she has a point. Instead of waging class war against the wealthy who worked hard for their money, we should be attacking the poor. After a lot of unsuspecting investors were lured by the poor into putting their hard-earned money into credit defaults swaps and tricked into giving deadbeats subprime mortgages, which ruined our entire economy, haven't poor people done enough harm to this country? #joannelipman
10/25/09
Relative free riders like Lippman kept their mouths shut, understanding that it wasn't in their interest to rock the boat. Then when the boat capsizes, they're a martyr to the cause.
The 9/11 point isn't completely nuts. I'm saying I agree, but I remember reading an interview with Susan Faludi in which she attributed the success of "Backlash" in part to its having been published before or after the Gulf War (I can't remember when the book came out.) The Gulf War was "Boy's Time," I think she called it; peacetime was "Girls' Time."
Lippman seems to be saying that in national security emergencies such as 9/11 the rights of women [and others, I might add] are subsumed by the immediate crisis -- We'll get back to you girls/minorities later.
10/27/09
Nytpicker's right, she's ignorant of basic facts.
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It's a pity, cause she does have some good points towards the end (like the "women don't ask" section, which I firmly believe in)....but it's lost in her sorry rhetoric and bizarre logical fallacies. #joannelipman
10/25/09
I've never really heard anyone go to bat for Ferraro as a substantial, game-changing figure, due to her extremely modest political talents I suppose...but I'm willing to believe that the time is ripe for a little contrarianism on this topic.
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10/25/09
Can we spell out the joke, here? The one way Lipman's completely wrong about men and women meeting in the middle is the example she set: that they both possess the capability to be equally as disgustingly vapid when it comes to the captain punching holes in their sinking ship. Both men and women, hand in hand, can disregard integrity for grossly incompetent, morale-shuttering selfishness!
I suppose I might be exceedingly dense, but I'm not sure what you're spelling here. I offer this one example because I badly want to understand you. #joannelipman
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I read this post at 5 in the morning after pulling an all-nighter. I thought maybe my fog of comprehension was caused by fatigue. #joannelipman
10/25/09
The ironic peak of Joanne Lipman kvetching about equality between the sexes is: she's an awesome example of how far the women's equality movement has actually come. In 2009, both Graydon Carter and Joanne Lipman, man and woman, can completely fuck their respective media properties over through out-and-out selfishness and naivity.
10/25/09
No more "pathbreakers have to be 10x better" and such.
By that standard, she has taken several steps in that direction.
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Well, it's certainly going to come off that way when many of the writers, especially the recent guest writers, think an incoherent, one-sided rant is an argument. Or they have a leaden style with completely predictable ideas.
And the arbitrary way in which they go after certain commenters while ignoring the obnoxious and dumb is migraine-producing. #joannelipman
10/25/09
"migraine-inducing."
Sorry. #joannelipman
10/27/09
10/25/09
Judith Regan, Arianna Huffington, you can pick your poisoned pen. And none of them ever seem to blame the fact that, you know, they sort of sucked at their jobs, which was never clearer than in Lipman's case.
I love finance magazines; I read them the way other people watch lifestyle porn real-estate shows. I'm an addict. I literally squealed with joy when I saw the word "Swindler" on last month's VF (not enough how-to's, in case you're reading, Graydon). But even I must say (see, I said I would say things, and here I am, saying them) that Portfolio sucked donkey dick. On Sunday. #joannelipman
10/25/09
Judith Regan, Arianna Huffington, you can pick your poisoned pen. And none of them ever seem to blame the fact that, you know, they sort of sucked at their jobs, which was never clearer than in Lipman's case.
I love finance magazines; I read them the way other people watch lifestyle porn real-estate shows. I'm an addict. I literally squealed with joy when I saw the word "Swindler" on last month's VF (not enough how-to's, in case you're reading, Graydon). But even I must say (see, I said I would say things, and here I am, saying them) that Portfolio sucked donkey dick. On Sunday. #joannelipman
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Meanwhile my coworker was back on the job a few days after throat surgery, unable to carry her own weight and perpetually hunched over a shopping cart, because the people who were supposed to be there for her didn't think she deserved sick leave.
Maybe when I finally make it to the world of high end art I too can be a privileged sack of shit.
Also please don't ever use the statement "People are people" again. It makes you look absolutely retarded.
10/25/09
Some of them talk about wage gaps and all that jazz but sometimes people should just say something to their human resources people instead of bitch about it.
Maybe they've tried, or they realize it's futile? Sometimes bitching and consciousness raising and making a public issue out of things en masse is the only way to bring about change.
Compared to equal pay, the name issue is small, but perhaps you don't remember the days when society pages had captions with "Mrs. Lambert Crodnick," "Mrs. Victor Jones," and "Mrs. Gary Meadows."
And personally, I think that if you're wearing shoes so high that in an emergency you have to take them off to run and save your life you're an effing idiot, but that's just me. #joannelipman
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We need to start looking at this instead of woman or man and move it on to "person." Neither gender is superior at all. #joannelipman
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Is Lipman having her feminist cheesecake and eating it, too?
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Also, per a comment from a previous thread, I have embraced Capitalization, thinking perhaps that was a request to Tidy Up in case Visitors are coming, despite my fondness for the Oldschool WebCred of LowerCase. #joannelipman
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