I went to UNLV right at the ending cusp of LV's glory days (More classic hotels on the Strip than douchebag attractors, Tarkanian was still coaching, slots still dropped coins etc) and even in 1993, with under a million residents, LV still was a two-newspaper town.
In fact I still have my mint-condition copies of the LV Sun's farewell to the Dunes Hotel special issue .. though, little did the Sun know they were about to implode themselves :[] .. good times though.
@lobstr: I forgot! Yes! You're a UNLV grad. For the record, the Sun's still alive, it's just a fold-out in the RJ, now. A 20something year-old reporter at the Sun won the Pulitzer earlier this year for Public Service reporting on construction project deaths. Must've chapped some old asses at the RJ fairly well.
If the internet had been set up originally on a per-fee basis, maybe there wouldn't be resistance to the idea of internet-only news. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" comes to mind.
I was hoping for the death of print media if only to save the forests.
@Lysergic Asset: Compuserve, payable by the minute. Something called The Source offered all sorts of university (East Mississippi Barbers', I think) research opportunity at $7 per minute. Other deep resources offered a cover charge to the Inner Sanctum. This was connectivity in the late 80s, when I started. Even the local "tree board," the BBS which organized chatter so it went on forever like an organization chart, began charging.
Then somebody said, hey, everybody's still listening to radio and watching teevee. What's their business plan again?
Here's the problem with tagging your business model to one particular demo, especially a demo with as particular and flighty and as generationally specific an aesthetic as the Gen-Y hipster set. Eventually they get tired your product, or outgrow it, or somehow you start missing the boat on whatever whimsical bullshit the new trend is. Then you can't give your product away.
Hope those Vice guys are socking the money away, because I figure they have five years left, tops. Why five? Because that's when the main body of hipsters start having to go straight, start getting married, start having kids, start needing real jobs, and when the trust funds start running out.
@lionel-mandrake: If you've been paying any attention at all to what Vice has been doing (VBS, ahem) over the last few years, you'd know the level of "whimsical bullshit" is at an all-time low. The don't-give-a-shit tone is still there but the topics are heavy hitters.
@SunanditaSquirrel: Did you read the words "generationally specific" in what I wrote?
Meaning, once the very specific and narrow generation to which Vice pitches itself, outgrows the Vice product, they will no longer consume the Vice product.
Unless, of course, they can make the transition into staying relevant to next bunch of hipster twats who come along.
@lionel-mandrake: Don’t forget – its not just the population of Williamsburg reading it, it has a major global circulation (it’s actually hard to avoid in the UK, you find it stocked just about everywhere).
I totally disagree with your five year theory - When I was 16/17 I used to read Vice - I haven’t touched it for years now (I’d much rather read about it on Gawker), but now I find my little brother who’s 17 reads it avidly....and so on…
@lionel-mandrake: Hmm... Interesting that you have an opinion worth writing on something that you couldn't be less interested in. I do, however, like your name/icon so I"ll let it slide this time.
Seriously, though. Perhaps you should give it another go. It's not all tits and cocaine anymore. Just some tits and cocaine.
"The Apple Tablet has been something of a holy grail for gadget fiends."
Seriously though - there's lots of reasons to be suspicious of the Apple Tablet - not the least of which is that it's not going to be a tablet Mac... it's going to be a large iPhone.
Which means - you're getting an ebook reader for $700. :)
@Alfisted: I'm pretty sure the tablet will exist. If Conde is going to make this move then Wired is the obvious choice. Of all Conde's titles, Wired readers are the most likely to buy the tablet as well as use new technologies in general. I'm not sure if it will work for Conde but starting with Wired makes the most sense. It's what I'd do.
This is a pet peeve of mine, so please forgive me.
It's TOE the line, not "tow". It does not refer to hauling a rope, it refers to a bunch of guys standing next to each other with their toes on a line. It's probably got a military origin.
@lostarchitect: Before I even checked the comments I was going to write, "Cue long debate about 'tow' vs. 'toe' the line."
For what it's worth I think your pet peeve is entirely unfounded. Having spent a fair amount of time looking - including consulting with a linguist, there doesn't appear to be a consensus either on the proper form of "tow/toe" or, even, the appropriate metaphor given either form.
I take the fact that your reply didn't even attempt to forward any support for your position (nor, really, does this) as yet more evidence.
@Lizard_King: Huh? You don't mind appearing stupid in public? You don't care that the web sites you visit are badly written? You're not offended that Ryan Tate, someone who is paid to write, can't use language correctly?
By the way, by the way you pair it with "Not a big deal", you should probably have used the outright "I couldn't care less" rather than the sarcastic "I could care less."
@skierpage: That is one of my pet peeves actually. "Couldn't care less" should be the correct use because if you could care less, it stands to reason that you really do care.
Although from what I've heard, the two are becoming colloquially synonymous.
@mark.hunter.ca: Hi Mark. Thanks for your comment. I don't really need support for my position because it is the correct one, and it is almost universally accepted as such. Your linguist is wrong if he says there is no consensus; there is. Google is your friend here, and since you need support:
@Lizard_King: Ugh, it is a big deal. If your not good at english, especially when your reader's depend on your use of language to communicate ideas, you risk appearing to be an idiot in there eyes.
@SkonOfVulcan: In terms of the original phrase you are technically incorrect, but functionally you are *sort of* correct. The original usage is "champing" (perhaps *you* should look in a dictionary?). "Chomp" is a modern variant on "champ", so it also makes sense, but the original is, in fact, "champing". [www.word-detective.com]
Okay. I looked at their privacy policy. Greenbaum provided an IP address to the school. But the privacy policy states that the IP address shall only be used "to deliver our web pages to you upon request, to tailor our sites to the interests of our users, and to measure traffic within our sites." Notice that "Forwarding it to your employer because someone personally insulted our editor" is not included.
Also, what a gloating headline Greenbaum penned, "Post a vulgar comment while you’re at work, lose your job." This guy is off the rails.
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In fact I still have my mint-condition copies of the LV Sun's farewell to the Dunes Hotel special issue .. though, little did the Sun know they were about to implode themselves :[] .. good times though.
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And then, look the hell out.
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I was hoping for the death of print media if only to save the forests.
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Then somebody said, hey, everybody's still listening to radio and watching teevee. What's their business plan again?
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#tips
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@Zirinsky
Congrats, you get the blue-ribbon today.
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Hope those Vice guys are socking the money away, because I figure they have five years left, tops. Why five? Because that's when the main body of hipsters start having to go straight, start getting married, start having kids, start needing real jobs, and when the trust funds start running out.
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Meaning, once the very specific and narrow generation to which Vice pitches itself, outgrows the Vice product, they will no longer consume the Vice product.
Unless, of course, they can make the transition into staying relevant to next bunch of hipster twats who come along.
#tips
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#tips
11/20/09
I totally disagree with your five year theory - When I was 16/17 I used to read Vice - I haven’t touched it for years now (I’d much rather read about it on Gawker), but now I find my little brother who’s 17 reads it avidly....and so on…
11/20/09
Seriously, though. Perhaps you should give it another go. It's not all tits and cocaine anymore. Just some tits and cocaine.
11/19/09
Seriously though - there's lots of reasons to be suspicious of the Apple Tablet - not the least of which is that it's not going to be a tablet Mac... it's going to be a large iPhone.
Which means - you're getting an ebook reader for $700. :)
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Not sure why Conde Nast is staring with Wired, though.
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It's TOE the line, not "tow". It does not refer to hauling a rope, it refers to a bunch of guys standing next to each other with their toes on a line. It's probably got a military origin.
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For what it's worth I think your pet peeve is entirely unfounded. Having spent a fair amount of time looking - including consulting with a linguist, there doesn't appear to be a consensus either on the proper form of "tow/toe" or, even, the appropriate metaphor given either form.
I take the fact that your reply didn't even attempt to forward any support for your position (nor, really, does this) as yet more evidence.
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By the way, by the way you pair it with "Not a big deal", you should probably have used the outright "I couldn't care less" rather than the sarcastic "I could care less."
11/18/09
Although from what I've heard, the two are becoming colloquially synonymous.
11/18/09
[lmgtfy.com]
[en.wikipedia.org]
(note that if you search wikipedia for "tow the line" it redirects to "toe")
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Where do I even start?
It was sarcasm - it was another misquoted, mixed up cliche.
#tips
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#tips
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[www.word-detective.com]
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Also, what a gloating headline Greenbaum penned, "Post a vulgar comment while you’re at work, lose your job." This guy is off the rails.
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