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ninety_nine
10/29/08

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As a tall man, I'm always offended when short men are cast in roles clearly intended for normal guys. Careful blocking, trenches, lifts, all sorts of tricks are used to create stature that is not otherwise there.
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Midge
10/29/08

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These posts are stupid.

Hey Steven Zeitchik and Alex Carnevale, you can't be "tastemakers" or tastebreakers for something you haven't seen.

After all this smoke you're creating clears, it'll be obvious it was generated by your burning reputations.
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mitchel_stevens
10/29/08

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"This film is gay!"

"How gay is it?"

"It's so gay, it physically has sex with other films."
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succulent
10/29/08

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Shawn Penn is a truly gifted actor. People may not like him as a person, but he always contributes the best possible performance he can deliver. The film was shot on location (as much as possible) in my fine city of SF (& Mr Penn lives just a few miles north of the city)

I can't wait to see it this weekend!
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bringmemyTofu
10/29/08

@succulent: Schamus?
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City_Dater
10/29/08

@succulent:

You're either a shill or you somehow missed I AM SAM.
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T.S._delegate
10/29/08

@City_Dater: but what about that heartbreaking performance in the interpreter?????

(I'm only half-kidding)

(this is also because I have a huge sean penn crush)
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Scout 3.0
10/29/08

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Can't they just use the tried and true "got milk?" advertising campaign? Although the white mustaches on the photos is a bit lewd in this context.
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Mount_Prion
10/29/08

@Scout 3.0: I think you pronounce his name "Melk," though, so it could only work in print.

Am I correct about this?
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bringmemyTofu
10/29/08

@Mount_Prion: If you are from South Jersey you are correct.
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Mount_Prion
10/29/08

@bringmemyTofu: I thought you were the Jersey boy?
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Victor Ward
10/29/08

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James Franco plays a homosexual, so they really don't need to do any flashy marketing to get the gays in the theater - at least not this one.

I am so tired of the whole "sanctity of marriage" "if gays get married, where does it stop" bullshit.

If they succeed in "defining marriage as between a man and a woman", where will they stop? Only people of the same race can get married? Only people of the same religion can get married? Only knocked up teenagers can get married?

It's a grim precedent.
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octopusink
10/29/08

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I just watched the trailer. Looked good, actually. Made me feel like hugging a gay.
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Mount_Prion
10/29/08

@octopusink: Make sure you wrap yourself in plastic or get one of those radiation suits first. You can never be too safe.
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llamalash★
10/29/08

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Admittedly, I've only seen one trailer about the film so I don't know who else is in it, all the people that worked on the film, etc. But, as has often been said about other projects, were there no actual GAY actors to play Milk? Penn is a fine actor and I've nothing against him. I'm sure he does a great job. What would be more remarkable than Brokeback Mountain, though, would be to have a film of that stature and gay actors accepted enough to play the leads instead of straight actors "branching out" by playing homosexuals.
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Nic Fit
10/29/08

@llamalash: So, like Rupert Everett? There aren't really any out actors of Penn's stature to carry the movie.
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seancasio
10/29/08

@llamalash: us mexicans have felt the same way about our portrayals..
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skahammer
10/29/08

@seancasio: Same for us ugly dudes. Just hiring Harvey Keitel doesn't mean you care about us.

No offense to Mr. Keitel. I mean, Mr. White. Sir.
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Victor Ward
10/29/08

@llamalash: Well Franco is in the cast.
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depardoo
10/29/08

@Nic Fit:

There are a number of great out actors, but they're all British and at least 137 years old.
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HeyThatsMyBike
10/29/08

@Nic Fit: Exactly. Neil Patrick Harris and T.R. Knight aren't exactly groomed for the role, and the bazillion closeted gay actors aren't going to touch this with a ten foot pole so as to avoid the rumor mill.
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ObamaIsMyPresident
10/29/08

@llamalash: I so agree. I think it's like white people in black-face. Future gays will look back at it with disgust.

And the reason why there aren't any gay actors with stature is because they won't come out of the closet cause they're scared they won't get parts, which in turn makes them play gay roles so people will be conviced they're str8. Any questions?
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HeyThatsMyBike
10/29/08

@HeyThatsMyBike: @LargeMarge: And yes, I'm looking at you, Kevin Spacey. Your closet door is already so translucent that birds regularly fly into it. Make with the coming out already.

But, Large Marge, I do think saying it's like white people in black-face is a bit of a stretch. I have no problem with gay people playing straight people, and don't think that's a negative reflection of straight culture in any way. I don't think straights should stop playing gay roles entirely, it would just be nice if we saw more of a mix is all. Kind of like I don't mind when Brits play Americans and vice versa. It is acting, after all! If you're good in a role, you should get to play it! I do, however, find it despicable that all the closeted ones are terrified of playing roles that reflect their own sexuality.
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Lebenskunstlerin
10/29/08

@LargeMarge: So would it be unacceptable for a gay actor to play a straight part? Or should gays only play gay parts? That doesn't seem like progress.
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llamalash★
10/29/08

@Lebenskunstlerin: That's a completely irrelevant question, seeing as that up until very recently, the vast majority of gay roles were the token joke roles. If a gay actor wants work, he/she has to take hetero roles, unfortunately. Strong gay characters are still relatively uncommon occurrences to come across. (though it is getting better)

I do agree that w/out Penn, there would be no actor strong enough to carry the film. However, I equally feel that as Large Marge suggested, if more gays were given the option to play realistic gay roles, more would and their status would be lifted. Part of the problem is that up until 5 or so years ago, people couldn't be out in Hollywood and still work in front of the camera. Roles like this played by gay actors could help remedy that.
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HK_Guy
10/29/08

@llamalash: That's why they call it "acting." If you take your complaint to its logical conclusion, hets could complain every time Rupert Everett or Portia del Rossi or Harvey Fiestein plays a nongay character.
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llamalash★
10/29/08

@HK_Guy: See my post above, specifically what I said to Lebenskunstlerin. You're correct, it is acting. However, there also is absolutely no comparing the availability of gay roles to that of straight roles. That's like saying women have equality because a few are CEO's.

I do not have a problem w/straights in general playing gays. However, NOW that more acceptance has been realized, it's time to act on that and let's see a major Hollywood production let a gay play a gay.

Btw, my favorite acting statement ever was when the man who played Keith on 6'Under (whose name escapes me) replied to the question of "what's it like to play a gay man" by answering "why would you even ask me that? Would you ask me what it's like to play a police man, or a doctor?"

Here's the thing, these films, though entertaining, are also political by default due to being in such infancy. They do send a message of acceptance. So, why the hell not take it one step further and actually practice that message?
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Nic Fit
10/29/08

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These Yes on 8 people are really getting out of hand. How does a docudrama about a gay Mayor from 30 years ago threaten the "sanctity of marriage".

This just proves they're a bunch of homophobic shits.
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