Does the film still have the oddly shoe-horned product placement? The United States is the only brand that Bond can portray with any degree of ambiguity. Ford, Smith & Wesson, Astin Martin and whatever down-at-the-heel brand of spirits that is currently trying to class up its reputation are all given a treatment of sterling character.
Bond might start quoting Chomsky as the franchise gets grittier and grittier but he sure as fuck better be turned out in the kind of merch they hawk in the first 30 pages of Esquire.
I'm not sure that any of Bond's kills can accurately described as murder, being that they are in self-defense or in the line of duty, as a soldier. This does, however, give a hint on the pacifist slant of the review. I also think that what is being portrayed as the anti-American sentiments of the film are probably just a portrayal of the distrust and betrayal inherent in the Intelligence trade, and the conflict necessary to a good film of this sort. I look forward to seeing it.
@twDarkflame: No self-defense involved? Can a "00" actually commit "murder?" It was stated as plural offenses, "murder after murder." I haven't seen it as I said, I just tend to lean toward the terms being a bit loaded. We'll see. Thanks.
@badasscat: ROFL - that's like watching the Adam West Batman movie, then watching Batman Begins, and saying the same thing about the Batman character.
I like the new Bond movies. The sexual innuendo got to be progressively too much in the others, and the realism...well, there was none. Bond is a governmental killing spy machine - I'm sure those involved in real-life espionage (who probably don't get anywhere near the Hollywood 'realism' of the occupation) would essentially still agree that it's not a "party".
@DaiWalka: So... your position is that action films should be "realistic" rather than "entertaining"? Interesting proposition that I don't think many others would agree with.
And no, Bond films have never been realistic. Ever. But they did used to be entertaining.
You know, it's actually pretty retro to frame things in that way. It's funny that in today's modern world the intelligence community is regarded as something which is vitally patriotic, and completely unimpeachable. The books written in the Le Carre era, like those of Len Deighton which are amazingly complex and beautifully convoluted, are these sort of freewheeling tales of snapping loyalty and long-term lying. The whole effect of which is that you can't really understand who is on what side, and fail to trust anyone, and end up in this awesome spy world of complete claustrophobia where everyone is independently out for themselves, and all loyalties are transient. Which suited characters like Bond perfectly. In the books Bond was a complete asshole, and although patriotic, was a complete mercenary emotionally.
Man. I really used to LOOOve post ww2 and cold war spy novels. So brilliant.
Oh, this movie is so dated. The euro is sucking ass, right now. USA! USA! and it only took the destruction of the world economy to make that vacation to Euro Disney affordable.
Audiences here might not be ready to root against America, but there is one Gawker commentor who is ready to root her nose against Mr. Craig's tight bod, like a pig in search of truffle-y goodness.
@BookishLookish: How about Layer Cake? I'm not such a fan of wanton violence, so spent most of the time with my face buried in my boyfriend's shoulder, covering my ears.
I admit I still haven't seen Munich; I seem to be going through a phase in my life where I seem to be actively avoiding all to do with the Middle East, but Eric Bana is my favourite Dalmatian, so I may have to watch it!
(I shouldn't be cruel; I went to school with his niece and by all accounts he's a decent bloke, but he's most definitely not an attractive one. Allow me to throw in Martin Henderson by way of distraction...)
Actually (and I'm sorry to thread hijack), as much as I complain about rugby being our national religion and the deification of the All Blacks, certain players are worthy of a purely physical adulation. Players such as Richie McCaw:
"Critics have described the new Bond as a more built Jason Bourne..."
So true. The problem is that the Bourne films did it better. This new Bond is a drag. Casino Royale was good for the foot-chase at the beginning, then it was all downhill from there.
@koala325: He was the only Bond who wasn't well into middle age playing the supposedly 35 year old character. Lazenby and Diana Rigg together were fabulous. Parse that with Craig pretending to like girls with Eva Green in the shower.
There's one thing I want to toss on the table about James Bond. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. As I recall, in "Dr. No" Bond did something that was controversial at the time and marked a turning point in film -- he plugged someone in cold blood. Before he did this "that's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six" line and shot whoever that was, the film hero never shot an unarmed man. He more likely would have gotten the drop on him, knocked him out and tied him up, or whatevs. There was comment about that at the tme.
Pffft, like I care about the plot? I could watch Daniel Craig pick lint out of his pupik and I'd still be panting and howling like a lordotic cat in the middle of a New Orleans summer.
@souplines: Well, when you have a headache of Old Testament proportions you take two tablets. When you have a lordotic hangover, it takes another "cure" entirely.
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Bond might start quoting Chomsky as the franchise gets grittier and grittier but he sure as fuck better be turned out in the kind of merch they hawk in the first 30 pages of Esquire.
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I don't have any desire to see this movie. Just looks like no fun at all.
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I like the new Bond movies. The sexual innuendo got to be progressively too much in the others, and the realism...well, there was none. Bond is a governmental killing spy machine - I'm sure those involved in real-life espionage (who probably don't get anywhere near the Hollywood 'realism' of the occupation) would essentially still agree that it's not a "party".
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And no, Bond films have never been realistic. Ever. But they did used to be entertaining.
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Man. I really used to LOOOve post ww2 and cold war spy novels. So brilliant.
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Also, I love that you dropped in a still from Lode Runner in the middle of a piece about James Bond.
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I admit I still haven't seen Munich; I seem to be going through a phase in my life where I seem to be actively avoiding all to do with the Middle East, but Eric Bana is my favourite Dalmatian, so I may have to watch it!
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(I shouldn't be cruel; I went to school with his niece and by all accounts he's a decent bloke, but he's most definitely not an attractive one. Allow me to throw in Martin Henderson by way of distraction...)
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Actually (and I'm sorry to thread hijack), as much as I complain about rugby being our national religion and the deification of the All Blacks, certain players are worthy of a purely physical adulation. Players such as Richie McCaw:
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*I don't know the phonetic symbol, but the 'th' is pronounced, as in 'throw' or 'through'...
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So true. The problem is that the Bourne films did it better. This new Bond is a drag. Casino Royale was good for the foot-chase at the beginning, then it was all downhill from there.
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Agreed! I wish we could have seen him in another Bond film.
Regardless, I've actually liked all the actors who played Bond...just wish Roger Moore sat out A View to a Kill.
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