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    Image of alboy2 alboy2
    11/16/09

    In reply to Indian Kids Work Cheap for Google
    And the cost(s) of living in India are exactly the same as they are in the US? Gimme a break; this seems like a very sensible response to a very different economy. We similarly pay people different salaries if they live in New York or Washington vs. the "market" in Indianapolis, for example. Methinks I smell a whiff of political correctness here. #google
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    11/16/09

    @alboy2: Allow me to eviscerate your argument, good sir.

    a)Yes, you pay different salaries for people living within the same country using the same currency. People living in Indianapolis pay lower rents than people living in NYC. That much is true. But. You cannotapply that principle in such a facile manner across nations due to a simple matter called the exchange rate. And that is what has deceived you. The dollar-rupee exchange rate makes it ridiculously cheap for American companies to hire Indian workers because the companies pay the Indians less dollars than they would if those workers were American.

    b) The people living in countries like India do not get to apply the exchange rate because they're living in India. A cost of living that seems ridiculously low in America like $300.00 per month amounts to roughly 15,000 rupees. In a country like India where over 40% of the population earns less than $1.25 a day or roughly 60 rupees, earning 15,000 rupees a month is difficult and painful.

    c) Notice that I applied that pesky exchange rate principle consistently here. You talked about cost of living in dollars and ignored thinking about the income in dollars. While the Indian cost of living in dollars is indeed low, the average Indian income in dollars is way, way lower. The ratio of cost of living to average income in the same currency is sky-high in Third World, oops, developing countries like India where most people earn shit pay.

    Methinks I smell a whiff of jerk here. Both from Google and from you. And stuff that nineties-era relic of whining about political correctness. Once you use PC hysteria to justify ripping off a bunch of kids from a poverty-stricken foreign country, you've officially jumped the shark. #google
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    11/16/09

    @Wrapitup: Please forgive me, it's difficult to write with any subtlety in this format. I didn't mean to justify Google's ripping off little third-world children, but merely trying to point out that there is not an exact correlation between economic opportunities/condition between our two countries. BTW, I will not STFU about "political correctness" because it is poor thinking at any time. Like many other ideas, this one has far overshot its usefulness; I am not, however, a cold-hearted Republican. What I do decry is the constant urge to sympathize with others based on their poor(er) condition. Equality of opportunity is far different from equality of condition. Were Google or any other company to base their pay scale on US earnings, we would be paying a lot more for our tchtchkes. Want to pay $10 for a t-shirt in Wal art? Fine, let's raise everyone's salary so they can reach the US standard of living. Google is functioning like a business, like it or not. Pay the prevailing wage at the time and in the place where you are functioning. It may not be fair, but it does represent the way the capitalist system works. #google
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    Image of petgorillahamster006 petgorillahamster006
    11/16/09

    In reply to Indian Kids Work Cheap for Google
    1/20th goes a long way in India. And you don't want to be offering people outlandish wads of cash, relative to the per capita GDP. That creates corrosion of social norms, and corruption.
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    11/16/09

    @petgorillahamster006: Great! Any other ridiculous things you'd like to justify? Maybe you could explain to me why women shouldn't vote? Or why coffee farmers in South America should be paid poverty wages for their product? Why don't you just kick a puppy and tell me how it's to toughen him up, to maintain the dog social norms. #google
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    11/16/09

    @petgorillahamster006: You're right. The poor should stay poor. Thank goodness for all the starving millions across Asia and Africa. I hear in North Korea, people starve so much that they look through the excreta of animals hoping to find undigested food. Oh also right here in the US, thousands of people starve and go homeless, including small children. Without this wondrous bounty of poverty and starvation, there would be terrible corrosion of social norms and corruption. Er, relative to the per capita GDP of course. #google
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    Image of Brad Brown Brad Brown
    11/16/09

    In reply to Indian Kids Work Cheap for Google
    That'l teech em' not too steel are jobs!
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    Image of homoviper homoviper
    11/16/09

    In reply to Indian Kids Work Cheap for Google
    The End of Poverty? #google
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/31/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Biden was the most inscrutable choice, ever, for VP. Instead of "change" Obama brought out an old hack, who had trouble with both truth telling, even during the campaign, and with inserting his foot into his mouth. Oh, to know what kind of negotiation that was, to get him on the ticket---except, perhaps to allay terrified old white guys who feared a woman and a (half)black man on the ticket would bring on the apocalypse. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    apparently I am in the minority, but I love Joe Biden! I think he's like the lovable Steve Urkel of the White House. He comes in, says stupid stuff, knocks shit over, and is like "Did I do that?" Oh Joe. #joebiden
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    Image of ModestProposal ModestProposal
    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Joe Biden is everything thats wrong and fucked up with congress. This dope won his seat in the Senate when he was 29 and has never had another job until being VP. He has learned about as much about how the country works from his perch in DC as Palin learned about Russia from staring at it. He is walking proof we need term limits.

    And he doesn't drink. I don't trust people who don't drink, unless they've already been alcoholics. #joebiden
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Why is it that I feel compelled to defend Gawker's subject matter against the editors/writers at least once a day lately?

    Either this new crop of staff writers is utterly fucked, or the editorial direction has taken a nosedive, or both.

    Is there some negative correlation between the quality of stories and the quality of AJAX/CSS? #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: From where I'm standing, it would appear to be a positive correlation. It's a good day when I get tripped up by fewer than five unresponsive scripts, infinite waits for comments to load or what have you. #joebiden
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    10/30/09

    @romulus: The site gets prettier, and the content gets lamer. Just callin it as I see it. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: Oh yeah, I didn't mean to quibble. I agree that the site gets fancier all the time, but features seem to break often. I should have added before that it could well be my OS and browser causing headaches most readers don't experience. And in all fairness, I haven't been reading long enough to judge contemporary content against the past. #joebiden
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    Image of meerkat meerkat
    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Not sure what point you're trying to make, Amrita... that you think Cheney's worldview makes some sense? That Cheney was initially popular, before everything he did brought his popularity rating to a low of 28%? I love it that Biden is willing to call a moron a moron. This is a ridiculous post. #joebiden
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Oh, and if you're trying to poke fun at Vice Prez Biden for weeping during the debate when he spoke about his first wife and baby daughter who died, well then, that's just messed up. #joebiden
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    10/31/09

    @Conchie Birdie: One might argue that it was the worst kind of political hackdom for him to bring them up expressly to show his "empathy" side and try to squeeze a tear out of his plastic-surgeryized eye slots. #joebiden
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    I'm absolutely NOT a supporter of ANYTHING Dick says... but, Good Lawwd, Biden, Bin Laden will always BE a part of the issue. I'm sorry, I guess if you had the prez saying this I could understand... but, uh, Joe? Nope.

    That being said, why are we posting crap from Fox News anyway - I thought we weren't supposed to take this stuff seriously?
    #joebiden
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    Image of PontiusPirate PontiusPirate
    10/09/09

    In reply to Bus Seat Fistfight: More Transit Mayhem Policed By YouTube
    They're just excited for Fleet Week.
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    Image of FriendlyFloyd FriendlyFloyd
    10/08/09

    In reply to Bus Seat Fistfight: More Transit Mayhem Policed By YouTube
    It's like Chun Li vs. Balrog...

    Chun Li would win because Balrog was a charge character with no legit air defense.
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    Image of Magister Magister
    10/08/09

    In reply to Bus Seat Fistfight: More Transit Mayhem Policed By YouTube
    Sometimes I long for the old days, when these kinds of altercations were often just diversions to cover pickpockets or train robbers and whenever they'd occur, everyone would avert their eyes, get off at the next stop and wait for another bus.

    Nowadays and maybe it's just the parent in me, but if I were to witness such a fight, I don't know that I could film while keeping an eye out for a gun.
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    Image of RedLineRage RedLineRage
    10/08/09

    In reply to Bus Seat Fistfight: More Transit Mayhem Policed By YouTube
    I am totally in LOVE with the hipster who makes them stop. She was awesome.
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